D Schroeder sent to the D-League

[theatlfan]

All valid points. A few things.

Schröder is a 19 yo who is going through a culture change right now. 19 yo who are drafted @ 17 aren't typically seen as "win now" guys so I can't really pin his struggles on squarely on Coach Bud's shoulders... yet.

Again, I was not 'blaming" his struggles on Coach Bud. Merely lamenting the fact when Tony Parker was a 19 year old rookie PG, new to this league, he had Budenholzer at his disposal to assist through the transition.

Dennis, in the exact same scenario....DOES NOT have Coach Bud at his disposal. That was the entire point of the thread.

Does it really hurt our team to at least let Jared and JJ practice against the big leaguers? Jared could show SOMETHING that increases his trade value. Let's face it, at this point he surely can't do anything to decrease his trade value....

Anyone else no longer getting notifications of someone quoting your post? This is the 2nd one I ran across tonight...

Maybe you won't blame Coach Bud if Schröder isn't a valuable contributor as soon as next year, but I will. Considering all the things we saw/heard out of him in Summer League and the 1st week or 2 of the season, then if he can't find ways to make him successful and fairly quickly, then yes, I will question Coach Bud's abilities as an NBA HC going forward. There are some positions/skill set that I could see having success in some situations that don't translate to the NBA, but "PNR PG with very good to elite athleticism, court vision, and defense" is not one of them. I'll give Coach Bud this season to do whatever he thinks is necessary to prepare Schröder for next season, but that's my limit. You're your own man and can chose to agree or disagree with me then.

As far as how Coach Bud is going about preparing Schröder, *shrug*. Everyone has different methods and as parsons said, there's really no telling what Coach Bud saw that made him think this wasn't a bad idea. There's only so much you can learn from a coach sitting 6 chairs away on the bench during a game; there's only so many times a coach can tell/yell at you something in practice before the message starts to drone instead of hit home. Maybe he just needs to clear his head and play. As I said above, I'll give Coach Bud the latitude to do whatever he wants this year to motivate Schröder and get him ready for next season. After that...

As far Cunningham, nah, leave him in the D-League unless you need him to ensure there's enough water in the water bottles. There are more scouts at D-League games than in our practice. He'll do more to help any trade value he might have by showing out in games down there than whatever garbage time minutes he'll get with the big club. Having said that, we're talking about someone with a 9.6 PER and shooting < 30% FG% in D-League. He really isn't worth our time - in discussing or developing him.

As far as Jenkins, yeah, that's a confusing situation. I have a longer post on this in reply to parsons on the T&T board, but the nutshell version is this: right, wrong, or indifferent, it appears that Coach Bud has decided that Jenkins isn't someone that he's going forward with and part of this is the moving of Korver to SG full-time. The most telling stat is that, of the team's total minutes, 8% of the SG minutes has gone to Jenkins. Meanwhile, Cartier Martin has 11%; Mack + Schröder have 9% combined. With Lou Williams getting a little over 1/2 of his minutes at SG since his return, my guess is that we won't see much of Jenkins for the rest of the season outside of maybe garbage time. Hopefully, Jenkins will bounce back and force Coach Bud to reconsider his stance, but somehow I think a trade is more likely.

[Jamaaliver]

As far as how Coach Bud is going about preparing Schröder, *shrug*. Everyone has different methods and as parsons said, there's really no telling what Coach Bud saw that made him think this wasn't a bad idea. There's only so much you can learn from a coach sitting 6 chairs away on the bench during a game; there's only so many times a coach can tell/yell at you something in practice before the message starts to drone instead of hit home. Maybe he just needs to clear his head and play. As I said above, I'll give Coach Bud the latitude to do whatever he wants this year to motivate Schröder and get him ready for next season. After that...

It's ironic. I was one of the few preaching patience for Schroeder in the offseason when fans here were clamoring to start him from Day one.

But I could not have imagined a scenario where he'd fall to 4th Point Guard and be deomted off the Big League Team...IN THE FIRST SIX WEEKS.

If we'd known he would fall behind Shelvin Mack on the Depth Chart, I darer say we'd have insisted he stay overseas for a year.....

[parson]

^ Who could've predicted Shelvin Mack coming on like he has?

[theatlfan]

It's ironic. I was one of the few preaching patience for Schroeder in the offseason when fans here were clamoring to start him from Day one.

But I could not have imagined a scenario where he'd fall to 4th Point Guard and be deomted off the Big League Team...IN THE FIRST SIX WEEKS.

If we'd known he would fall behind Shelvin Mack on the Depth Chart, I darer say we'd have insisted he stay overseas for a year.....

I think we were on the same page with Schröder actually. I just figured that the culture shock and competition jump would be pretty high for the kid and there would be significant growing pains. I don't know the level of competition in the German League, but it ain't the Spanish League, and his only International games have come from youth tournies with the German U18 and U20 teams.

Was it a bad idea to bring him over? I don't know. It's hard to argue against the supposition when he's playing in the D-League, but there would have been some issues with leaving him overseas as well. I'd imagine we would have moved him to the Spanish League and I wonder what that would have done for his development. Schröder's skill set is pretty specific to the NBA game. His German team gave him the reins simply because he was their best player and they could, but I'm not so sure a team in the Spanish would do the same - especially for a 19/20 yo kid. Considering what's currently going on with Nogueira, if both of them were having rocky relations with their Spanish team, I think we would be in an uproar.

[DirtybirdGA]

Dennis returns...

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... Cunningham

[Jamaaliver]

^Man, for the life of me I cannot figure out what the heck Bud and Ferry are doing with these multiple, short trips to the D-League.

Either way, hope he gets some burn wherever he is. We're barely a .500 team without him. If he's gonna be here, at least let him get after opposing PGs defensively. If he isn't ready to be Rajon Rondo yet, maybe he can at least be Avery Bradley.

Poor Jared Cunningham, are we trying to keep he and Dennis from existing on the same roster at the same time or something? I hope the Hawks own a condo down their for our young players to stay at during their stints in Bakersfield. Living in a hotel at age 20/21 (even as a millionaire) is not conducive to eating/sleeping/living in a healthy, consistent manner.

[CablexDeadpool]

^Man, for the life of me I cannot figure out what the heck Bud and Ferry are doing with these multiple, short trips to the D-League.

I think it's typical for young players drafted relatively low to have multiple trips to the DLeague

Jeremy Lamb and Terrence Jones had multiple trips to the Dleague their rookie year.

Dennis Schroeder shouldn't have come over to the NBA. He got a lot of his hype from exhibition games against NBA prospects at the Nike Hoop Summit after establishing himself as a prospect in the German leagues. Probably would've been better off putting him in the Spanish leagues with a good team and a good coach to further develop him and then allowing him to come over. Not like he was needed this year. Hawks got Teague and Lou Williams.

When he did play this season, he looked really indecisive and had a lot of TOs.

The Dleague is better for him, he can play against some fringe NBA guys and other draft picks and run an offense.

[Jamaaliver]

And we've sent J-Cunningham back to the D-League after a week+. This, I believe, is his 5th demotion to the minor leagues this season. And now, I've read he actually comes off the bench there as well.

With Antic, Jenkins, Horford injured and Nunnally gone, I'm a little surprised we're letting him leave. I wonder if this means we're close to acquiring another player using that DPE we recently were approved for.

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution


The Hawks re-assigned Jared Cunningham to the NBA Development League Tuesday.

The gaurd was most recently re-called from the team’s affilitate, the Bakersfield (Calif.) Jam, on Jan. 25. He played in two of the Hawks’ four games since being recalled. He played had two points in 14 minutes in games against the Bucks and 76ers.

http://www.ajc.com/news/sports/hawks-re-assign-cunningham/ndCfK/

[theatlfan]

And we've sent J-Cunningham back to the D-League after a week+. This, I believe, is his 5th demotion to the minor leagues this season. And now, I've read he actually comes off the bench there as well.

With Antic, Jenkins, Horford injured and Nunnally gone, I'm a little surprised we're letting him leave. I wonder if this means we're close to acquiring another player using that DPE we recently were approved for.

Probably has more to do with Cartier Martin's signing than a move on the horizon. My guess is that the trade market floodgates will open up after AS weekend.