Knicks interested in Teague

[diesel50]

I can't imagine we would be willing to take on Felton (what's the point when you have two young pgs who are the reason you are considering trading Teague). Shumpert is a good defender but he has no offensive game.

Again, I yell B.S. on this trade, but let's be clear about another thing. I don't think that Dennis is the PG to be under any circumstances. I don't think he has shown that he has the ability to run the offense that Bud wants. I see the same Mushiness in Hawks fans that I saw when we drafted Pape Sy and Jordan Crawford. Dennis is an interesting prospect but thus far, he hasn't shown that he's capable of playing on this level.
A Teague for Lowry deal makes sense for both teams but I doubt that Teague would sign off on that deal. However, who knows, he may be fed up enough with DFerry's dislike of him that he may do it.

[dms269]

I disagree about trading for Lowry. Why trade for Lowry when the chance he walks at the end of the year is very high (I doubt Atlanta wants to pay him what he wants).

[parson]

I disagree about trading for Lowry. Why trade for Lowry when the chance he walks at the end of the year is very high (I doubt Atlanta wants to pay him what he wants).

Honestly, we'd only want him if we wanted to dump Teague's salary - and that would be an admission of failure on Ferry's part.

[PandaKidd]

Knicks fan here. I come in peace. Here's the latest report floating on our board.

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Why are you guys so interested in trading Teague? He's having a nice year and his contract is not that bad.

I beleive the NY media is overhyping this "Hawks are shopping Teague HARD" crap that is coming out. I believe we would be open to a trade for Teague , but not for someone like Shumpert, maybe THjr and a filler.

We want high IQ ball players and not a ton of salary.

Lowry doesnt make sense. Can walk at end of season. He isnt the guy we are paying tons of money too

[theatlfan]

Apparently, the current reports are that the Teague interest blew over for NYK. I'd imagine once they realized that our asking price was either much the same or more than TOR's for Lowry, NYK had nothing in leverage.

[PandaKidd]

im telling you, the Knicks are grasping at straws. No one is playing their game. The league knows they are in a terrible position. They are desperately trying to get a star for Melo.

The league will just sit back and wait.

[parson]

Curious, how is Jeff Teague's defense?

It's interesting: he has great physical gifts (speed, quickness, hops, length) which lead to highlight-type moves (steals, blocks...) and is improving in his recognition as a defender, but (you were waiting for that, right?) he still gets his weight too far forward and bites on fakes. He'll let people get past him.

However, with a shot-blocker behind him, he could gamble more and would be a terror.

Or, he might pout himself right out of the NBA.

[Rip2137]

Teague is such an emotional defender. You can literally see when he is getting locked in and turns into a bulldog on D. Other times, his reaction time is slow. I think this can be said for a lot of guys in the league though.

Parson, whats with the "Teague is pouting" thing? What are you basing that on? I have seen you say it in a few threads now.

[GrimeyKidd]

Why diesel left hawksqauk

[parson]

Parson, whats with the "Teague is pouting" thing? What are you basing that on? I have seen you say it in a few threads now.

He pretty much said it himself. I had been noticing his poor play - well, since Horford's injury. I thought he was injured until he said (AJC interview) he hadn't been playing hard enough. He upped his energy for one game, then went back to his new (and apathetic) play.

If he's not hurt and he's not trying hard, I call that pouting. If you'll recall, he's been getting benched more lately, too.

[Rip2137]

That "I haven't been playing hard enough" is not pouting. Its what good players do when they are struggling. People leaped on Josh for years for saying "My shot just wasn't falling" instead of saying "I probably shouldn't be taking that shot".

I again point out that Teagues bad games feature just as many shot attempts as his good games. If you look at his shot chart, they are generally the same. Its to the point people say Teague isn't trying if his shot doesn't fall.

[Jamaaliver]

Why diesel left hawksqauk

GRIMEY!!!!

[diesel50]

That "I haven't been playing hard enough" is not pouting. Its what good players do when they are struggling. People leaped on Josh for years for saying "My shot just wasn't falling" instead of saying "I probably shouldn't be taking that shot".

I again point out that Teagues bad games feature just as many shot attempts as his good games. If you look at his shot chart, they are generally the same. Its to the point people say Teague isn't trying if his shot doesn't fall.

I think Teague's efficiency has fallen because he was benefiting early from the Pick and Roll with Horf. When you lose that option and you don't have good PNR players, then you have to learn the nuances of the new offense. This is where I believe the problem starts. I don't know if it's pouting. I think it's just growing pains.

[azuresou1]

Shump is an okay player who I like as an asset. He's basically Corey Brewer with better offensive mechanics. He has talent, but he really needs some structure around him. I don't know that we have sufficient structure in place yet for him to truly develop and shine.

TH Jr. is shaping up to be a legitimate SG in the league. I don't think he has the elite athleticism to be a star, but I can see him having a long starting career in the league.

Felton is trash though, and his contract stinks.

[parson]

Its to the point people say Teague isn't trying if his shot doesn't fall.

You're arguing that his # of shot attempts indicate he's still working hard. What about 2 assists in 33 minutes? Where's the energy?

But, as to your argument, remember that Teague has never been a deadeye shooter. His shooting percentages are boosted by his drives to the basket. If he just stays out on the perimeter, his %s drop. And when he does drive, he can't go half-heartedly. Energy raises his %s; we're looking at a lack of energy.

You cannot tell me that he's intense out there. Either he's injured or he's - I'll say - disheartened.

[ATL Boy]

Shump is an okay player who I like as an asset. He's basically Corey Brewer with better offensive mechanics. He has talent, but he really needs some structure around him. I don't know that we have sufficient structure in place yet for him to truly develop and shine.

TH Jr. is shaping up to be a legitimate SG in the league. I don't think he has the elite athleticism to be a star, but I can see him having a long starting career in the league.

Felton is trash though, and his contract stinks.

Fully agree with this. I like Shump but Ferry should demand that we get Hardaway, at the negotiating table. I also want no part of Felton and his 3 years after this one.

[Jamaaliver]

^It's worth a reminder that Ferry passed up on Hardaway as well as other productive, proven American College players for foreign players who, apparently, are years away from contributing.

We could have had Teague AND Hardaway, Jr. Hell...we certainly had a need at SG/SF on draft day.

[azuresou1]

I don't think anyone expected TH2 to be this good in the NBA - there's a reason he slipped so far.

[D21]

He passed on him, but at this moment, even if he's better than anybody thought, I'm not sure he proved that the Knicks are better with him than without.
They had injuries, so it's also hard to know their level.
How about his defense ?