Atlanta Hawks Draft Discussion Thread

[Jamaaliver]

Another name rising up draft boards:

Bogdan Bogdanovic, SG, Serbia

He will be either a late first rounder or early 2nd. But this guy is like a Manu Ginobili clone at this point.

I'd be willing to part with Jenkins or future 2nd rounder(s) to move back into top 30 for him. I suspect he may not fall past SAS at pick #30.

We come out of this draft with Saric and Bogdanovic, I'd be very pleased. 5 Years from now, our roster is stacked with guys groomed by us and who are perfect fits in our system.

[theatlfan]

It appears that Saric's contract is *very* interesting. 1st, his buyout is $800K - IIRC, an NBA team can pick up $600K of that. 2nd, the contract is only worth ~$2.7M over the 3 years. 3rd, the 3rd year is a player option.

So, if Saric likes the situation he'd come into, then I'd think that Saric would actually make more $$ by coming to the States for a year since he'd make more the $200K more by coming over. If Saric doesn't like his situation, then he wouldn't take too great a financial hit to stay an extra season and allow the clock that removes him from the capped salaries of NBA 1st round picks. Appears that his agents have put him in a very good situation - now the ? is whether he'd prefer to end up in a big market or with a winning team.

I don't think he is worth all the discussion and shot calling. Guy wants to dictate where and will he will play. I will pass on this guy.

Does anyone see this as ridiculous of a statement as I do? If Parker or Wiggins (or whoever) said "I could go much higher, but I'd prefer to play for the Hawks" then we should pass on him? I'd prefer to get the most talented player and let the chips fall where they may. The goal is to win a championship eventually - not necessarily get incrementally better immediately. IF Saric is playing games to ensure that the guys 8-14 don't take him, then why let someone else be the beneficiary?

Another name rising up draft boards:

Bogdan Bogdanovic, SG, Serbia

This is really a great draft in that late 1st/early 2nd area. Just a cursory glance at some mocks and I'd think I wouldn't be ashamed to field a 2nd to 3rd unit with 5 names in the 25-40 area next season. Take your pick from names like Early, Adams, Grant (still a personal fave of mine), Bogdanovic, Inglis, Dinwiddie, McDaniels, Micic, Jokic - I'm sure I'm missing some too. I'd take any and all of them and worry about the repercussions later. I'd really like Bogdanovich, but if we went with one of the other names, I wouldn't get too disappointed either.

[SBM]

Reports are suggesting that Embiid could fall as far as 8th. Do y'all think we make a play for Sacramento's pick if he falls to 8? And if so, what do you expect us to give?

I would give Dennis,Bebe, and 15 to pick Embiid at 8.

[Hawk Eye]

I think we would make several attempts for kings 8th pick if embiid is still on the board. The only problem is I don't think Sacramento would accept most deals at that point, I think they would go ahead and draft him

[D21]

...Take your pick from names like Early, Adams, Grant (still a personal fave of mine), Bogdanovic, Inglis, Dinwiddie, McDaniels, Micic, Jokic - I'm sure I'm missing some too. I'd take any and all of them and worry about the repercussions later. I'd really like Bogdanovich, but if we went with one of the other names, I wouldn't get too disappointed either.

Regarding Inglis, he's now on the ATL 2nd round pick on NBADraft.net
It was hard to evaluate him because he didn't get too much playing time this season. Meanwhile, it was not because he was not ready, but an agreement to develop him and not play him more than 15minutes.
He worked hard in training. He's still under contract for two years if I'm not wrong, but he's not expected to play with his team since they are now in second division, even they will try to go back to first division as soon as possible and that he would have get more playing time at this level.
I think he still need to get consistency, and maybe he should play more to get it, so don't know if coming next season in ATL would be the best way, so a good stash option.

[theatlfan]

Regarding Inglis, he's now on the ATL 2nd round pick on NBADraft.net
It was hard to evaluate him because he didn't get too much playing time this season. Meanwhile, it was not because he was not ready, but an agreement to develop him and not play him more than 15minutes.
He worked hard in training. He's still under contract for two years if I'm not wrong, but he's not expected to play with his team since they are now in second division, even they will try to go back to first division as soon as possible and that he would have get more playing time at this level.
I think he still need to get consistency, and maybe he should play more to get it, so don't know if coming next season in ATL would be the best way, so a good stash option.

A fellow Inglis fan... He's probably #3 on my list of semi-realistic guys that I'd freak out about if we got him in the 2nd round after Jokic and Dinwiddie. 1st, he has a body that could play at 4 if needed. Also, the fact that Inglis was a point forward with the youth teams really intrigues me. Just think he could be a defensive combo forward with more O than he gets credit for. Don't think he's a starter, but he could be a 3rd/4th ball handler who can give you a few options when mixing and matching to rest the starters.

Alas, I've seen that he's got some buzz as high as the late 1st and some of the teams (like PHI) who have multiple 2nds might look to have a EuroStash with an Adonis body too. I'm keep my dreams alive until he's off the board tomorrow night though.

[theatlfan]

D21 references the new mock on nbadraft.net, but there extended mock has this nugget:

{PROMISE} We have heard that Atlanta has a promise in place with Saric at 15, with Saric having come over and only worked out for them. The Hawks tend to mirror the Spurs with GM Danny Ferry being a disciple, so a Diaw type of versatile player would make sense for Atlanta. His highly polished skill set may be a better fit for Europe, however his toughness and feel for the game gives him intrigue for the NBA. What he lacks for in speed and athleticism he makes up for in skill level and desire. Saric was a point guard as a youth, and retains a tremendous feel and the vision and passing to create for others. His jumpshot continues to be a work in progress. His lack of speed on the perimeter likely makes him a PF in the league. NBA Comparison: Boris Diaw

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... I have to admit that I wouldn't be disappointed with a promise to Saric. I wouldn't even mind about the year's wait for him to come over.

[Baller2014]

I'm sure Ferry has promised someone, it's the style these Spur front offices have (I'll bet Presti, Buford have promises too, and DL is rumoured to have made a promise with the #23).

[D21]

A fellow Inglis fan... He's probably #3 on my list of semi-realistic guys that I'd freak out about if we got him in the 2nd round after Jokic and Dinwiddie. 1st, he has a body that could play at 4 if needed. Also, the fact that Inglis was a point forward with the youth teams really intrigues me. Just think he could be a defensive combo forward with more O than he gets credit for. Don't think he's a starter, but he could be a 3rd/4th ball handler who can give you a few options when mixing and matching to rest the starters.

Alas, I've seen that he's got some buzz as high as the late 1st and some of the teams (like PHI) who have multiple 2nds might look to have a EuroStash with an Adonis body too. I'm keep my dreams alive until he's off the board tomorrow night though.

I'm not sure that his play making skills are enough to play point-forward now, but I'm pretty sure that it can help IN THE RIGHT SYSTEM, and I feel Bud's system is one. He has nice vision on D, and on transition O. Once the opponent D is more in place, he sometimes try to pass while other guys are not 100% able to catch it. At least it shows he wants to share the ball.

[ATL Boy]

Almost time boys

[atlantabbq99]

The draft is so deep, that alot of mock drafts have the middle first round filled with possible lottery prospects that could slide to 15.

Their are alot of prospects i would be happy to walk away with but if McDermott, James Young, or Kyle Anderson happen to slip to #15 because the draft is so deep, then the Hawks have to take which ever of the three slips.

But if no lottery talent slips to the Hawks, im more than happy to get a number of players like:

Nik Stauskas
Dario Saric
Rodney Hood
Zach LaVine
Adreian Payne
Glenn Robinson
Jordan Adams
DeAndre Daniels
CJ Wilcox
Cleanthony Early

all ten guys are basically equal to me. i guess it really depends on who Budz feels most comfortable in developing. but with that said, Adreian Payne, does stand out alittle bit, because the recent draft measurements show that he can play Center and PF in the NBA, with a reach of 9'1, and size of 240lbs, which is the same size and reach as Tiago Splitter, Steven Adams, Hilton Armstrong, Nene Hilario, Spencer Hawes, Greg Monroe

Yeah, i'm good with the pick

[jagstang76]

Great call BBQ! I'm liking the pick too. I see him being a poor man's Al Horford with more emphasis on his abilities to shoot from outside and play with energy. He will be able to learn a ton from Al and Bud. He will contribute immediately and possibly push for a starting spot in a year or two.

Some folks have said that we didn't need another PF, and I understand the thinking. However, our depth in the front court probably did us in this season and hurt us in the playoffs. DMC and Korver did a more than adequate job at the wing spots this past season. Not that we can't upgrade there, but we would have been better with a better quality backup to Al while he was hurt.

That said, we do need a SG/SF. Perhaps Jenkins comes back strong. Perhaps we can find a decent trade partner and pick up a good SF. If we trade Paul at this point, we will get the best value for him and then backfill the frontcourt with guys like Bebe and Payne. Depending on what happens with the LeBron/Melo race, we might be able to nab a pretty good player to fill the middle of the lineup. I'm still hopeful we can lure one of those two because of our roster/system, but I realize that's not very likely.

[PandaKidd]

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[Jamaaliver]

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I truly think D Ferry is gonna regret not doing what it took to move up and acquire Saric. Whether it was that long rumored trade with SAC, or engaging DEN who apparently was open to move back.

Dario was amenable to playing here, and if Ferry was as high on him as I thought, he should have moved heaven and earth to get this kid in the fold.

I sincerely hope this wasn't a case of believing D Saric would fall out of the lottery and into our laps...

Analysis: The Nuggets didn't love anybody at No. 11, which is why they shopped the pick so aggressively. They found a willing partner in Chicago...

This was our shot at Saric.