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How the Hawks' Free Agency Plans fell apart

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Re: How the Hawks' Free Agency Plans fell apart 

Post#21 » by D21 » Sun Jul 24, 2016 8:42 pm

MaceCase wrote:As a FYI since I've seen no mention of it here, Koonin in his weekly radio segment on 92.9 back on July 8th debunked Lowe and others' reports that the Hawks shopped Millsap as pure speculation on their part and that the Hawks had intended to keep a frontcourt trio of Sap, Al and Dwight.

Damage control? Perhaps, but if you took Al's week late response to his family bashing Atlanta all over social media as gospel yet have misgivings over this then.....what can I tell ya?

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I always thought that as soon as they needed to clear cap space to keep Horford cap hold and then re-sign him, they wanted to trade Splitter and filler, but that lots of teams jump on this occasion to make offers for Millsap, and that it wasn't ATL that started to offer Millsap.
There were offers, they were listening because you have to, it would be idiot to not listen, but if they wanted to keep Horford and Bazemore; and sign Howard, without keeping Millsap, they would have been shopping him since start of Free Agency, not once they signed Howard and re-sign Bazemore.

The goal was almost reached, and it was a nearly perfect plan, just missed by some dollars on Horford offer to be sure to keep some flexibility and room the re-sign guys like Dennis in the future while keeping these guys.
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Re: How the Hawks' Free Agency Plans fell apart 

Post#22 » by PandaKidd » Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:50 pm

MaceCase wrote:As a FYI since I've seen no mention of it here, Koonin in his weekly radio segment on 92.9 back on July 8th debunked Lowe and others' reports that the Hawks shopped Millsap as pure speculation on their part and that the Hawks had intended to keep a frontcourt trio of Sap, Al and Dwight.

Damage control? Perhaps, but if you took Al's week late response to his family bashing Atlanta all over social media as gospel yet have misgivings over this then.....what can I tell ya?

#noleaks

I believe they looked at every option on the table. I feel like they were willing to keep all 3 here, as long as Al was willing to accept the contract they offered.

I think as time goes on its pretty clear Al didnt REALLY want to be here, and if he did, he wanted to be wowed. He wanted to be coveted. The second they signed D12 that didnt sit well with him. He was ready for a change.

Do i believe they shopped Millsap? Yes. Because I feel like if they got AH to commit long term with D12, they would have tested the PM market to see what was out there, but ultimately would have been happy with him here.

Koonin is a master spin artist. I like him a lot, i think he does a lot of good for the team. But it was damage control
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How the Hawks' Free Agency Plans fell apart 

Post#23 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Aug 1, 2016 8:41 pm

As a FYI since I've seen no mention of it here, Koonin in his weekly radio segment on 92.9 back on July 8th debunked Lowe and others' reports that the Hawks shopped Millsap as pure speculation...


ATL Boy wrote:I listened to that too, and I don't believe a single word of it...


D21 wrote:There were offers, they were listening because you have to, it would be idiot to not listen...


PandaKidd wrote:I believe they looked at every option on the table. Do i believe they shopped Millsap? Yes. Because I feel like if they got AH to commit long term with D12, they would have tested the PM market to see what was out there, but ultimately would have been happy with him here.



Millsap seems to be proceeding with the understanding he was indeed dangled in trade talks over the summer. And taking the news exactly as we expect a man of his character would:

Millsap said he remains on good terms with Hawks management despite the trade talk. He said there were no fences that need to be mended.

“It is what it is,” Millsap said. “I don’t dislike anybody in this organization. I still think they are stand-up people. I still think they are terrific people. Our relationship is going to be our relationship. We are still on good terms.”
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Re: How the Hawks' Free Agency Plans fell apart 

Post#24 » by MaceCase » Tue Aug 2, 2016 1:21 pm

So Millsap acknowledges there's trade talk surrounding a NBA player.

Unsurprisingly there is a tremendous scarcity of detail of who, where, and what the exact "talk" was between the alleged Hawks player involved and the team's beat writer with no mention towards and nothing to back up the 2K word piece that Lowe managed to bang out.

Business as usual.
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Re: How the Hawks' Free Agency Plans fell apart 

Post#25 » by Skyhawk1 » Wed Aug 3, 2016 3:39 am

Our plan would have fallen apart if we had offered Horford to a max deal. I love the Hawks offseason so far.
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Re: How the Hawks' Free Agency Plans fell apart 

Post#26 » by Geaux_Hawks » Wed Aug 3, 2016 3:08 pm

Skyhawk1 wrote:Our plan would have fallen apart if we had offered Horford to a max deal. I love the Hawks offseason so far.

I agree. Had we given in to Horford's demands, our plans would have fell apart right there. We know Horford isn't taking us anywhere, so why make him the #1 priority? We got what we needed as far as improving our weaknesses. We brought back a young guy we think can improve, and still become a late bloomer hopefully. Horford would have only made life hard for us to improve now and in the future. sucks we didn't get anything for him, but that's our FO fault. Should have moved him at the deadline.

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