Game Thread: Hawks @ Cavs

[jayu70]

I'm still holding out hope we can move Dennis for a second top ten pick.

What's the plan here?

To draft a PG who can give us 20/7 and shoot the 3 close to 40%. That'll be sweet in a few years.

I see what you did there

[Jamaaliver]

I'm still holding out hope we can move Dennis for a second top ten pick.

To draft a PG who can give us 20/7 and shoot the 3 close to 40%. That'll be sweet in a few years.

To acquire more pieces that fit the same timeline. And to fill the roster with players who fit Travis Schlenk's preferred style of play.

Again, I do like Dennis. But he's a year or two from his entering his prime years, while we seem much further away from true contention.

Another possible trade to keep an eye on. If NYK does decide to move Porzingis, Dennis would likely be the centerpiece of any trade we might offer.

NOTE: The goal isn't to build around Dennis. It's to acquire the best possible players who fit the desired style of play.

[kg01]

I'm still holding out hope we can move Dennis for a second top ten pick.

To draft a PG who can give us 20/7 and shoot the 3 close to 40%. That'll be sweet in a few years.

To acquire more pieces that fit the same timeline. And to fill the roster with players who fit Travis Schlenk's preferred style of play.

Again, I do like Dennis. But he's a year or two from his entering his prime years, while we seem much further away from true contention.

Another possible trade to keep an eye on. If NYK does decide to move Porzingis, Dennis would likely be the centerpiece of any trade we might offer.

NOTE: The goal isn't to build around Dennis. It's to acquire the best possible players who fit the desired style of play.

Sweet baby Jebus, you're suggesting the Knicks would entertain trading Porzingo for Dennis considering they're like 2 games into the Ntilikina era?

That's enough interwebs for you, Jammmmalllliver.

[Jamaaliver]

To draft a PG who can give us 20/7 and shoot the 3 close to 40%. That'll be sweet in a few years.

...possible trade to keep an eye on. If NYK does decide to move Porzingis, Dennis would likely be the centerpiece of any trade we might offer.

Sweet baby Jebus, you're suggesting the Knicks would entertain trading Porzingo for Dennis considering they're like 2 games into the Ntilikina era?

That's enough interwebs for you, Jammmmalllliver.

Nah, just spitballin. If Porzingis starts trying to force his way out of New York, our two best trade assets are Dennis and next year's first round draft pick.

I wouldn't trade that pick for anything less than Giannis.

[jayu70]

To draft a PG who can give us 20/7 and shoot the 3 close to 40%. That'll be sweet in a few years.

To acquire more pieces that fit the same timeline. And to fill the roster with players who fit Travis Schlenk's preferred style of play.

Again, I do like Dennis. But he's a year or two from his entering his prime years, while we seem much further away from true contention.

Another possible trade to keep an eye on. If NYK does decide to move Porzingis, Dennis would likely be the centerpiece of any trade we might offer.

NOTE: The goal isn't to build around Dennis. It's to acquire the best possible players who fit the desired style of play.

Sweet baby Jebus, you're suggesting the Knicks would entertain trading Porzingo for Dennis considering they're like 2 games into the Ntilikina era?

That's enough interwebs for you, Jammmmalllliver.

Dennis at 24 fits the timeline of Prince (23), Bembry(23) and Collins(20).
Plus I thought these young kids would be best served staying in school. Dennis is right at the age for being a senior just getting drafted.

[Jamaaliver]

Dennis at 24 fits the timeline of Prince (23), Bembry(23) and Collins(20).

I guess, But I was under the impression we were building around elite young talent that we hope to acquire at the top of the draft.

Doncic, Porter, Bagley will still be in their teens when they enter the league.

NOTE: Prince, Collins and Dennis ain't getting us past Lebron, Wall or even Giannis.

[kg01]

To acquire more pieces that fit the same timeline. And to fill the roster with players who fit Travis Schlenk's preferred style of play.

Again, I do like Dennis. But he's a year or two from his entering his prime years, while we seem much further away from true contention.

Another possible trade to keep an eye on. If NYK does decide to move Porzingis, Dennis would likely be the centerpiece of any trade we might offer.

NOTE: The goal isn't to build around Dennis. It's to acquire the best possible players who fit the desired style of play.

Sweet baby Jebus, you're suggesting the Knicks would entertain trading Porzingo for Dennis considering they're like 2 games into the Ntilikina era?

That's enough interwebs for you, Jammmmalllliver.

Dennis at 24 fits the timeline of Prince (23), Bembry(23) and Collins(20).
Plus I thought these young kids would be best served staying in school. Dennis is right at the age for being a senior just getting drafted.

... gooottt eeeeemmmm!!!

[jayu70]

Dennis at 24 fits the timeline of Prince (23), Bembry(23) and Collins(20).

I guess, But I was under the impression we were building around elite young talent that we hope to acquire at the top of the draft.

Doncic, Porter, Bagley will still be in their teens when they enter the league.

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That is why you at least need a capable PG to help your young players especially bigs.

[Jamaaliver]

... gooottt eeeeemmmm!!!

...she kinda changed her post after the fact, and that's fine.

But seriously, we are four months into a rebuild. It would be a mistake to assume the players here are going to be a part of the final product years from now.

NOTE: Issue that seems to be unaccounted for--Collins, Dennis, Taurean will all be approaching contract extensions around the same time period.

Just something to keep in mind as we construct the squad moving forward.


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[macd-gm]

Well I agree that if there is a chance at a true centerpiece player in trade then Dennis might have to be a part of that. And that's fine. I would have sent him out for Jimmy Butler last year. I don't know if i'd trade him for a pick though.

Jamaal's larger point is true though and it should be evident by watching Giannis, Kyrie, Lebron etc. We have to get a star one way or another and Dennis isn't going to be that guy. Hopefully he can play with that guy because he's really good and is starting to eliminate some of the hero ball that i was concerned with.

[jayu70]

Well I agree that if there is a chance at a true centerpiece player in trade then Dennis might have to be a part of that. And that's fine. I would have sent him out for Jimmy Butler last year. I don't know if i'd trade him for a pick though.

Jamaal's larger point is true though and it should be evident by watching Giannis, Kyrie, Lebron etc. We have to get a star one way or another and Dennis isn't going to be that guy. Hopefully he can play with that guy because he's really good and is starting to eliminate some of the hero ball that i was concerned with.

I'm not saying that Dennis shouldn't be traded at all. Lebron is in a class all by himself.
Separate question: In there 1st or 2nd years who thought Jimmy Butler and Giannis would be the players they are today? Just asking.
I'm not saying Prince will be but what if he can be our Jimmy Butler?

[macd-gm]

No one saw Jimmy Butler coming but i'd say a lot thought Giannis was a future star. I agree that Prince may end up being a great player. It's driving me crazy to see Baze with the ball so much when it should be in Prince's hands. The outcome has a much greater chance of success. Honestly, having Dennis, Bembry, Prince as the starting lineup may eventually be gold. Dennis and Prince are showing signs of shooting 3 well enough to cover up Bembry's weakness and that lineup would be lock down on the perimeter.

[Robo_Claw]

No one saw Jimmy Butler coming but i'd say a lot thought Giannis was a future star. I agree that Prince may end up being a great player. It's driving me crazy to see Baze with the ball so much when it should be in Prince's hands. The outcome has a much greater chance of success. Honestly, having Dennis, Bembry, Prince as the starting lineup may eventually be gold. Dennis and Prince are showing signs of shooting 3 well enough to cover up Bembry's weakness and that lineup would be lock down on the perimeter.

When is Bembry supposed to be back?

[macd-gm]

Surgery for Bembry was on 10/23 i think. so we are looking at 12/1 at the earliest?. Right wrist surgery though. It may take a while for him to get back in shape.