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When will Trae be as good as Doncic?

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Re: When will Trae be as good as Doncic? 

Post#141 » by Bob8 » Fri Jan 4, 2019 12:08 am

High 5 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:But if we leave Luka out of this, Trae is for sure looking much better than in November.


You leaving Luka out of a discussion on the Atlanta Hawks message board? That'll be the day.

And coming over here to brag about ASG voting? Come on, even you're better than that. Lin and VC are both in the top 10. Yippee!


Trae and Luka are kinda connected, especially in a thread with that name.
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Re: When will Trae be as good as Doncic? 

Post#142 » by Bob8 » Fri Jan 4, 2019 1:27 pm

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You’re very picky, when comparing 2 players. Imho Rpm shows bigger picture than only numerical or shooting stats. But let’s look just numbers, Luka pts. November 17.7 vs. 21.1 in December, that’s big improvement. Trae Young 14 vs. 15.8, improvement too, but less than Luka. Luka assists November 4.2 vs. 6.2 December. Big improvement again. Trae 8.1 in november vs. 7.0 in December. Luka has only marginally worse shooting % in December than in November. But Luka was taking 6.4 3s and Trae only 3.8 in December. I agree Trae improved in some aspects of the game but Luka improved too, except marginally worse shooting %. And Luka’s improvement can be very well seen in RPM. Trae’s Rpm is still very bad because of his defense.

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He is a terrible poster, he spams the general board with his Eminem level stannery.


I can understand that facts look terrible from Hawks point of view, but they’re still facts.
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Re: When will Trae be as good as Doncic? 

Post#143 » by kg01 » Fri Jan 4, 2019 1:36 pm

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He is a terrible poster, he spams the general board with his Eminem level stannery.


I can understand that facts look terrible from Hawks point of view, but they’re still facts.


Bob, Bob, Bob ... c'mon, Bob. What you're doing amounts to trolling and I'm sure you know it. Do you not get enough of a Luka-fix on the general board and Mavs forums?

Everybody sees that Doncic is playing well. There's no need to nitpick every comment that may ever-so-slightly not read as ultra-praise of the young man.

Why does it shock you to see pro-Young speech on a Hawks-centric forum? Not every inch of the site needs to be infected with Luka-cites.
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Re: When will Trae be as good as Doncic? 

Post#144 » by dms269 » Fri Jan 4, 2019 1:43 pm

As when the other thread got locked, if you want to talk about how great Luka is then take it to the General Board or the Mavs board, not here.
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Re: When will Trae be as good as Doncic? 

Post#145 » by Bob8 » Fri Jan 4, 2019 2:02 pm

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King Ken wrote:He is a terrible poster, he spams the general board with his Eminem level stannery.


I can understand that facts look terrible from Hawks point of view, but they’re still facts.


Bob, Bob, Bob ... c'mon, Bob. What you're doing amounts to trolling and I'm sure you know it. Do you not get enough of a Luka-fix on the general board and Mavs forums?

Everybody sees that Doncic is playing well. There's no need to nitpick every comment that may ever-so-slightly not read as ultra-praise of the young man.

Why does it shock you to see pro-Young speech on a Hawks-centric forum? Not every inch of the site needs to be infected with Luka-cites.


I apologize, I believe the debate should be about facts, challenging different options and expanding our views. My bad, won’t happen again.
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Re: When will Trae be as good as Doncic? 

Post#146 » by Sothron » Fri Jan 4, 2019 2:19 pm

To answer the topic question: Never. Young is a decent passed, bad shooter and putrid defender. I said when we made that trade we would regret it for the rest of franchise history. Now you guys are seeing the proof. Another Hawks debacle from another idiot Hawks GM that thought he knew more than anyone else. First Marvin over Paul and Deron and now this.

It is sad as Atlanta sports fans we don't get any good things.
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Re: When will Trae be as good as Doncic? 

Post#147 » by High 5 » Fri Jan 4, 2019 2:21 pm

Bob8 wrote:I apologize, I believe the debate should be about facts, challenging different options and expanding our views. My bad, won’t happen again.


"BTW, Luka is better at everything hehe ;)"

No one is buying what you're selling, dude. You're trolling.
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Re: When will Trae be as good as Doncic? 

Post#148 » by High 5 » Fri Jan 4, 2019 2:24 pm

Sothron wrote:To answer the topic question: Never. Young is a decent passed, bad shooter and putrid defender. I said when we made that trade we would regret it for the rest of franchise history. Now you guys are seeing the proof. Another Hawks debacle from another idiot Hawks GM that thought he knew more than anyone else. First Marvin over Paul and Deron and now this.

It is sad as Atlanta sports fans we don't get any good things.


Please stop pretending like you had some unique foresight. Most people preferred Doncic to Trae.
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Re: When will Trae be as good as Doncic? 

Post#149 » by kg01 » Fri Jan 4, 2019 2:24 pm

Sothron wrote:To answer the topic question: Never. Young is a decent passed, bad shooter and putrid defender. I said when we made that trade we would regret it for the rest of franchise history. Now you guys are seeing the proof. Another Hawks debacle from another idiot Hawks GM that thought he knew more than anyone else. First Marvin over Paul and Deron and now this.

It is sad as Atlanta sports fans we don't get any good things.


We'll be fine, saphron.

This was a 2-year deal for us. Save your outrage until you see how it all develops. I say that as a staunch anti-Schlenk guy who was adamant against drafting Young so TIFWIW.
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Re: When will Trae be as good as Doncic? 

Post#150 » by macd-gm » Fri Jan 4, 2019 2:25 pm

Sothron wrote:To answer the topic question: Never. Young is a decent passed, bad shooter and putrid defender. I said when we made that trade we would regret it for the rest of franchise history. Now you guys are seeing the proof. Another Hawks debacle from another idiot Hawks GM that thought he knew more than anyone else. First Marvin over Paul and Deron and now this.

It is sad as Atlanta sports fans we don't get any good things.


Marvin was an incredibly average player the first 3 or 4 years of his career in pretty much every aspect. The same can't be said of Trae and we're in month 3.
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Re: When will Trae be as good as Doncic? 

Post#151 » by dms269 » Fri Jan 4, 2019 2:38 pm

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I can understand that facts look terrible from Hawks point of view, but they’re still facts.


Bob, Bob, Bob ... c'mon, Bob. What you're doing amounts to trolling and I'm sure you know it. Do you not get enough of a Luka-fix on the general board and Mavs forums?

Everybody sees that Doncic is playing well. There's no need to nitpick every comment that may ever-so-slightly not read as ultra-praise of the young man.

Why does it shock you to see pro-Young speech on a Hawks-centric forum? Not every inch of the site needs to be infected with Luka-cites.


I apologize, I believe the debate should be about facts, challenging different options and expanding our views. My bad, won’t happen again.


But what is you point about coming onto the Hawks board and tearing people down any time they say anything semi-positive about Trae.

"Trae had a good November."
"Yeah but it wasn't as good as Doncic".

The last thread got locked because it was being derailed as it was only about how great Luka is. I told people to take any Luka talk to other boards, yet somehow this thread gets derailed as well. Bob8, you posted in that locked thread so you already knew why it got locked yet continued it in this thread.

Now this thread gets locked again. Doncic talk needs to be taken to the proper forums. If you are insistent about the Hawks board, take it to the proper threads (Around the League, 2019- NBA Games Thread).
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