Ressler on the verge of moving the Hawks in light of new GA abortion law?

[_s_t_u_r_t_]

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At least that's the easy translation.

As the owner of an entertainment industry business, if he doesn't want the pro-life fan's business, then maybe some of us should start reassessing where our allegiance lies, and spending our time, attention and money accordingly.

Is this really how we want these things to go? We have to choose our entertainment and recreation options based on the politics of ownership?

[Geaux_Hawks]

I don't think he would move the franchise, but he certainly is not happy with what has transpired. I could see that law being repealed honestly with so much backlash it's causing.

[jayu70]

Click bait headline even with your ? at the end.

[_s_t_u_r_t_]

Like it's not the logical conclusion to what he said?

And, no comment on the natural follow-up question?.... you *are* content to see owners of the teams you follow do this sort of thing?... would you say that, even if the owner took a position you disagree with?

I'm obviously not content.

I like sports and politics to be kept separate, just like we normally have the sense to do on these message boards... but unfortunately, in this case, our owner doesn't see it that way.

Don't flame me, I didn't bring it up, he did.

[jayu70]

That's your conclusion, let me know when he actually says he's moving the team or even hints that's he's moving the team.

[kg01]

Click bait headline even with your ? at the end.

Ban-worthy? End-around at a political discussion.

[Jamaaliver]

Click bait headline even with your ? at the end.

Ban-worthy? End-around at a political discussion.

Why is he constantly resorting to this type of tactic?

Desperate need for attention?

[_s_t_u_r_t_]

@kg01:

1. It only becomes a political discussion if anyone ever takes it there, kg... that's not the topic at-hand.

2. The topic at-hand is introduced by Tony Ressler, owner of the Atlanta Hawks.

3. The topic at-hand could have just as easily been introduced on another board for another franchise on a whole other political issue... but a political issue nonetheless.

4. Ressler isn't the first to choose a political side publicly. And it's not like every time it happens, it's always from one end of the political spectrum or the other.

@jayu70:

1. Ressler runs an entertainment business. Yes or no.

2. He effectively told GA government in that clip, "Look, we're all liberals here in this business that you've attracted to the state under the premise that you are pro-business, and this is the kind of thing that drives us liberals to re-think being here." Yes or no.

3. Ressler is actually a California guy, not a Georgia guy. Yes or no.

4. It is not hard to recognize the cues that betray how tortured he is about the situation, and how tempted he is to just take that one more step and say maybe he should join his entertainment industry comrades in their threat.

5. #TrueToTheEntertainmentIndustry ... though... doesn't have the same ring to it, I guess.

6. Just stop please. You're fooling no one with the dodge and weave thing and are *at least* as intelligent as me or anyone else here. You heard what I heard. You read what I wrote, and I have no doubt you understand completely.

So, engage the topic, or don't, but again, don't act like I brought it up. The Hawks owner did.

I'm not wrong to ask "Are we *really* okay with owners doing this kind of thing, using their sports celebrity to push their political agenda?"... and as such, making some portion, if not large portion, of fans feel conflicted.

Just let me enjoy my sports, please.

[_s_t_u_r_t_]

Why is he constantly resorting to this type of tactic?

Desperate need for attention?

Liver, really? Dang. Your agenda with those words is so see-through, it's embarrassing. Take me on on substance, if you really disagree. Be an adult. There's a topic here. Discuss it, or don't. but don't be cowardly and start defaulting to the personal attack thing, as if people aren't smart enough to recognize your tactic.

Btw. Did anyone ever mention, you post A LOT?

[the_process]

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At least that's the easy translation.

As the owner of an entertainment industry business, if he doesn't want the pro-life fan's business, then maybe some of us should start reassessing where our allegiance lies, and spending our time, attention and money accordingly.

Is this really how we want these things to go? We have to choose our entertainment and recreation options based on the politics of ownership?

Ressler was clearly referring to movie and TV productions.

[_s_t_u_r_t_]

Ressler was clearly referring to movie and TV productions.

That he was.

But. Humor me. Do you think, if asked, he would claim he is *not* part of the entertainment industry?... and that he is only speaking on *their* behalf to *their* interests?... or do you, like I do, sense a lot of pent-up anger, and that he feels a brotherhood with them?

And. Again. Again. Again.

Why no one wants to go there, I'm not sure... maybe if I put it in another context (?)... let's say the owner of the New England Patriots... forget for the moment that he's got other legal troubles in FL he's probably tending to still... let's say he showed up on CNBC today, telling the world how ridiculous it is that the president is getting push-back on his Mexican tariff thing, and in so doing, drawing a line between himself and anyone who disagrees with him politically.

I'm very put off by that. (Mind you, I'm also neither a Pats fan nor a Trump supporter, just to be clear, but the illustration serves the precise point.) I'm not content with owners doing that. I can't do anything about it, of course, but grumble here and other places.

But I'm right to grumble.

Leave our sports fan-dom alone. Don't make us have to think about reconciling our politics with our sports.

[MaceCase]

Yea, it is upsetting, hearing people having dominion over their bodies and businesses.

But snark aside,

I don't believe I heard the word "Hawks" mentioned once by Ressler so fail to see the relevance to the board, and 2 don't consider the "entertainment industry" as one megaconglomerate that governs everything from Hollywood blockbusters all the way down to strippers to think that Ressler's opinions on one thing has bearing, at all, on another.

[_s_t_u_r_t_]

Mace, I'm not taking it there (ie, into the political forest)... you have the dominion over your mind and keyboard whether you want to.

As for the suggestion he doesn't consider his own business to be part of the entertainment industry, and that he's not actually all that upset... we'll just have to vividly disagree. He does and he is.

I'm just trying to get someone to engage the question I've now repeated about 5x.

Even the Kraft thing doesn't seem to dislodge the dogged determination to not speak to the legit question posed that all of us, no matter our own political stripes, seemingly ought to be able to talk about.

[MaceCase]

Sturt, you have an issue, gripe, even an agenda that you constantly search for an "in" that you can use as an outlet. Politics have been a part of sports since long before I was born, possibly you too. This isn't a new phenomena that requires dogged attention so much so that you need to tilt at windmills by taking creative license (pun intended) of what constitutes the "entertainment industry" or continue to profess telepathy/decades of experience in the FBI's Behavioral Science Unit reading people.

How about this take, I'm sure the owners of the Detroit and other Rust Belt cities' franchises were miffed about the manufacturing businesses leaving and it had little to do with them having "America First" beliefs. This could just be a successful businessman stating the obvious of how there could potentially be a significant economical impact based on the GA decision. After all, that IS what his actual words were rather than whatever else you're trying to latch onto them or fabricate.

[gundysmullet]

Yea, it is upsetting, hearing people having dominion over their bodies and businesses.

But snark aside,

I don't believe I heard the word "Hawks" mentioned once by Ressler so fail to see the relevance to the board, and 2 don't consider the "entertainment industry" as one megaconglomerate that governs everything from Hollywood blockbusters all the way down to strippers to think that Ressler's opinions on one thing has bearing, at all, on another.

You are perpetuating a lie by the pro abortion crowd. It is not “their bodies”, it is a completely separate body that has its own heart, brain, hands and feet, fingers and toes, the ability to hear and recognize its mother and father and most importantly, it’s own unique and individual DNA. It is a separate and unique body. That’s why when the baby moves inside the belly the mother does not say, “ooh, I just kicked” a mother says, “oh, the baby just kicked”. Here is a video by Benjamin Watson’s wife to help further debunk the lie that abortion is about a woman’s body:

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[MaceCase]

And heeeeeeeere we go.

[Jamaaliver]

Mods, please shut this thread down and direct all parties to the political discussion thread over on the Wizards Board.

It's a shame this basically happens every month now.

[dms269]

Seriously?

Who thought posting this here was a good idea? Who thought responding to this was a good idea?

If you want to talk politics then bring it up on the political thread on the Wizards board to go to the current events board.