Marc Stein: Hawks still interested in Jerami Grant

[jayu70]

For Gallo and 1 first+ 1 second, yes, but certainly not for paying him 28M, and certainly not for Bogi.
If we loose Bogi to add Grant, it's just stupid as trading away the player that had the most impact with Trae it not's a way to build a contender for years.

Bogi's knee is a real injury concern. It severely impacts his defense.

Bogi and his knee is a real problem.
Serbian national team doctor said Bogdan had a knee surgery two weeks ago, will have to pause at least three months and will likely miss Eurobasket.
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/06/hawks-bogdanovic-reportedly-underwent-knee-surgery.html

[Jamaaliver]

Bogi and his knee is a real problem.

Serbian national team doctor said Bogdan had a knee surgery two weeks ago, will have to pause at least three months and will likely miss Eurobasket.

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/06/hawks-bogdanovic-reportedly-underwent-knee-surgery.html

Great find.

I credit Bogdan Bogdan for getting this addressed early in the offseason so he should be available for training camp. He's gonna need preseason plus the next couple of months to get the rust off and get his conditioning back.

[D21]

And this time, hope they don't rush him to at full speed at the start of the season, because it might be the reason we ended up missing several players later. The season start is nothing, BOS proved it. ATL too last season, finishing strong seems to lead to a better playoffs run

[Jamaaliver]

Theoretically, would Jerami Grant pair well with Deandre Ayton?

Would JG be playing the SF or PF in a scenario where we bring both players in?

[jayu70]

Theoretically, would Jerami Grant pair well with Deandre Ayton?

Would JG be playing the SF or PF in a scenario where we bring both players in?

We will be killed on the boards.

[D21]

I was almost sure that ATL didn't offer Bogi+16th for Grant like all media said.
They are changing the fact that teams call ATL (easy since every ATL player are on good contract) to ATL calling everybody, but now:

After writing a couple weeks ago that the Hawks continued to exhibit interest in Pistons forward Jerami Grant, Stein clarifies that it was actually Detroit that showed more interest in a hypothetical deal that would involve Grant, the Hawks’ No. 16 overall pick, and Bogdan Bogdanovic, while Atlanta was less enthusiastic about the idea. It’s not clear how Bogdanovic’s recent knee surgery might affect the Pistons’ interest in such a trade or the Hawks’ ability to move him, Stein writes. Link

[D21]

And now that Grant has been traded to POR, after finally seeing that ATL was not the one pushing for this trade, like media were saying, but DET, there's a question in my mind: do most of ATL fans undervaluing our players? (media, we know they do it)

I saw these last weeks/months trade proposals that were clearly too much for me for a guy like Grant: I would have put Gallo for salary match, but nothing more than him with a pick, and in the end, even if POR were not in the same situation having a trade exception to absorb his contract, did you see what pick they sent to DET?

A 2025 FRP coming from MIL for Grant, with a swap of 2022 46th and 36th SRP, and get a 2026 SRP.
That's all, no need to explain why this FRP should be a very late 1st round one, coming from MIL

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[jayu70]

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[jayu70]

Does Gallo + 16 + JJ get it done?

Not sure it's the best offer they'll get but it's decent.... At least we'd have 3 defensive "wings" with Hunter, OO, and Grant. I'm not sure the long term salary with Grant at 28, Collins 25 and Hunter will work. I'm doubting that Hunter will get less than 15 a year.

I'm trying to talk myself into it lol

He's an UFA. Parting with too many assets then having to overpay him is a non-starter.

Definite overpay suggestion.

[D21]

Does Gallo + 16 + JJ get it done?

Not sure it's the best offer they'll get but it's decent.... At least we'd have 3 defensive "wings" with Hunter, OO, and Grant. I'm not sure the long term salary with Grant at 28, Collins 25 and Hunter will work. I'm doubting that Hunter will get less than 15 a year.

I'm trying to talk myself into it lol

He's an UFA. Parting with too many assets then having to overpay him is a non-starter.

Definite overpay suggestion.

Exactly what I said above, we are undervaluing our own players/assets, following too much what the media said.
Everyone should realize that rumors, especially coming from ESPN and some other are always treating ATL players bellow their real value

[HMFFL]

I'm glad Grant has moved on. He wasn't the type of talent in wanted us yo have but I wish him well in Portland. It's good value for Portland depending on what happens to Milwaukee (pick came from).

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[HMFFL]

He's an UFA. Parting with too many assets then having to overpay him is a non-starter.

Definite overpay suggestion.

Exactly what I said above, we are undervaluing our own players/assets, following too much what the media said.
Everyone should realize that rumors, especially coming from ESPN and some other are always treating ATL players bellow their real value

Detroit explored every option for over a year and they went with what was possibly their best option. We don't fully know what all of the offers on the table had been. Grant just needs to stay healthy which he's had a difficult time doing.

Our front office has dangled John Collins as trade bait for two off-seasons now. I think it's drying up and we're about to find out tomorrow what his true value is. Straight up for a lottery pick between 1-10 I don't see happening.

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[D21]

Definite overpay suggestion.

Exactly what I said above, we are undervaluing our own players/assets, following too much what the media said.
Everyone should realize that rumors, especially coming from ESPN and some other are always treating ATL players bellow their real value

Detroit explored every option for over a year and they went with what was possibly their best option. We don't fully know what all of the offers on the table had been. Grant just needs to stay healthy which he's had a difficult time doing.

Our front office has dangled John Collins as trade bait for two off-seasons now. I think it's drying up and we're about to find out tomorrow what his true value is. Straight up for a lottery pick between 1-10 I don't see happening.

Certainly no, but if they had the 16th or a future protected first, it's a possibility, mainly if they can get a wing defender which allow to not have to make a trade for a vet for that.
Then you add Tucker and it's already better on defense.
I would still replace Capela with Turner to get more options and play faster, but if Trae is a Clint fan... I don't see it happening

[HMFFL]

Exactly what I said above, we are undervaluing our own players/assets, following too much what the media said.
Everyone should realize that rumors, especially coming from ESPN and some other are always treating ATL players bellow their real value

Detroit explored every option for over a year and they went with what was possibly their best option. We don't fully know what all of the offers on the table had been. Grant just needs to stay healthy which he's had a difficult time doing.

Our front office has dangled John Collins as trade bait for two off-seasons now. I think it's drying up and we're about to find out tomorrow what his true value is. Straight up for a lottery pick between 1-10 I don't see happening.

Certainly no, but if they had the 16th or a future protected first, it's a possibility, mainly if they can get a wing defender which allow to not have to make a trade for a vet for that.
Then you add Tucker and it's already better on defense.
I would still replace Capela with Turner to get more options and play faster, but if Trae is a Clint fan... I don't see it happening

It still means we're moving Collins for the future when we need to do something about the present. I don't like it that perspective of it. We need help now.

Fast forward to three or four years from now I'm afraid Trae will want out if we haven't improved.

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