The case AGAINST keeping Millsap

[red96]

If a team were to trade for Milsap this season, what type of bird rights would his new team have this off-season?

From one of our resident Cap Experts:

Contracts under 4 years can't be extended under the current CBA, I have no idea of the case under the new one being negotiated but I'd imagine it would be moot as Millsap would already be a free agent when it takes effect. A current advantage a team could gain through a trade are his full-Bird rights as he's played over 3 seasons in Atlanta and that transfers.

Ok, thanks.

[Jamaaliver]

Soaring Down South argues that Millsap should be kept...and re-signed for the max next summer. (Yikes!)

Why The Hawks Shouldn’t Trade Paul Millsap


It's [an] interesting debate, when a player of value can finish their contract, and walk away without their team receiving any compensation at all.

The prospect of trading Josh Smith back in 2013 should have been an attractive option for the Atlanta Hawks to consider...I believe that at or near the deadline, Atlanta should have traded him for the best offer available.

Al Horford’s situation on the other hand was significantly more complicated. [H]is return became somewhat of a foregone conclusion.

With the Hawks currently struggling the way, I understand many fans might be reaching for the panic button. However, it would be irrational to move Paul Millsap before the trade deadline.

He will almost certainly decline his option to become an unrestricted free agent this summer. But, Paul is easily Atlanta’s best and most dynamic offensive player, as he is leading the team in scoring average once again. He has the skills that will enable him to maintain his status as one of the games top power forwards for the life of his next contract. There is also something to be said for the element of continuity.

Additionally, with Dwight Howard under contract for two more seasons, I'd like to see how their chemistry improves and if they can grow into one of the league’s top front-courts.

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[chrismikayla]

Soaring Down South argues that Millsap should be kept...and re-signed for the max next summer. (Yikes!)

Why The Hawks Shouldn’t Trade Paul Millsap


It's [an] interesting debate, when a player of value can finish their contract, and walk away without their team receiving any compensation at all.

The prospect of trading Josh Smith back in 2013 should have been an attractive option for the Atlanta Hawks to consider...I believe that at or near the deadline, Atlanta should have traded him for the best offer available.

Al Horford’s situation on the other hand was significantly more complicated. [H]is return became somewhat of a foregone conclusion.

With the Hawks currently struggling the way, I understand many fans might be reaching for the panic button. However, it would be irrational to move Paul Millsap before the trade deadline.

He will almost certainly decline his option to become an unrestricted free agent this summer. But, Paul is easily Atlanta’s best and most dynamic offensive player, as he is leading the team in scoring average once again. He has the skills that will enable him to maintain his status as one of the games top power forwards for the life of his next contract. There is also something to be said for the element of continuity.

Additionally, with Dwight Howard under contract for two more seasons, I'd like to see how their chemistry improves and if they can grow into one of the league’s top front-courts.

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[chrismikayla]

I know this isn't likely a popular opinion but this team is just not very good and paying Paul a max deal on the north side of 30 is total insanity. I for one think retooling around Dennis, Bembry, Prince, and Dwight is not a bad idea depending on how this year shakes out.

[simon24]

MKG and Marv for Millsap and thabo.

MKG is the potential for the future, Marv is a solid fill in Pf on a decent contract whose recovered from injury to get his shot back.

We upgrade Pf at the cost of wings thanks to Batum being able to carry the lions share

I'm REALLY high on MKG, so this is a solid 'maybe' probably from me.

Marvin would not only benefit from playing in Bud's system, but could thrive next to Dwight.

Most importantly: Both are under manageable contracts long-term, making them tradable moving forward.

CHA won't trade Marvin or MKG. They got all their guys on below market prices. Why get Millsap and be forced to pay him 30+ mil a year when you got Marvin at half the price, younger and have a similar skillset.

[Jamaaliver]

I know this isn't likely a popular opinion but this team is just not very good and paying Paul a max deal on the north side of 30 is total insanity. I for one think retooling around Dennis, Bembry, Prince, and Dwight is not a bad idea depending on how this year shakes out.

Seems like the idea of trading Millsap for value is catching on among the fanbase.

Just imagine if we'd traded Millsap to ORL before the draft instead of Oklahoma City jumping on that deal. We could have gotten a lottery pick + Victor Oladipo + Ilyansova. That'd be huge for us now and long-term.

I doubt we'll be lucky enough to get a package that strong mid-season should we actually move Paul.

NOTE: A lineup of Howard-Horford-Korver-Oladipo-Dennis would have been lethal come post-season.

[Jamaaliver]

Another 'keep Paul Millsap' article from one of the more prominent fansites:

Dwight Howard has been the Hawks most popular player. However, Atlanta’s best player is still Paul Millsap, and it has been that way for the whole year.

Millsap has been fantastic for the entire season, and his game-winning basket against the Thunder on Monday night only reinforces that.

Playing just over 33 minutes per game, Millsap averages 17.5 points, 8.2 rebounds, and 3.6 assists. Known as a player with multiple weapons, he can score from the perimeter or at the basket fairly easily. Coupled with his elite defense, this scoring ability makes him one of the best players in the league.

...advanced statistics show his value as well. With Millsap on the court the Hawks have an offensive rating of 104.4 points per 100 possessions, giving up 99.1 on the defensive end to finish out a net rating of 5.0. The offensive rating falls to 98.0, while the defensive rating balloons to 109.4. The overall net rating without Millsap is negative-11.3. (Which would be the worse of any team in the league.)

As the Hawks struggle, Millsap has been the anchor that this team desperately needs.

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[Yungsta404]

this is a low upside .500 team. No one deserves to be kept at the max. Especially someone that is 32.

[D21]

That's right, no one deserves to be kept at the Max, but who is sure that Millsap will ask the Max to stay here ?
It all depends on what they talk about with management... until the trade deadline.

[Jamaaliver]

Oh, the trade talk...The current makeup of the roster lends itself to potential trades, especially around the deadline.

Paul Millsap, Kyle Korver, Thabo Sefolosha, Mike Muscala, Kris Humphries, Scott and Splitter are all up, in one way or another, after the season. I can see a team being interested in acquiring a player like Korver or Sefolosha.


Even with the uncertainty surrounding Millsap, I don’t see a major move coming unless the Hawks completely fall out of the playoff race. I understand they risk losing Millsap for nothing, as they did with Al Horford. However, this team has shown glimpses of competing with the best in the league...if the Hawks figure things out between now and the February trade deadline, I don’t see a major move. If they don’t figure things out, all bets are off.

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[jayu70]

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[ChuckChilly]

Wish the Spurs would trade Aldridge for him.

[GlenRiceARoni]

Wonder if you guys would take Marvin and a 1st for Millsap.

Or Marvin/lamb/1st for Millsap and korver.

Or maybe even 2 firsts for either deal.

Marv is on a decent deal 4/ $56. and lamb has been good but our coach just doesn't play him over bellinelli.

We need rebounding and shooting from the PF desperately as Frank & Marvin broken finger aren't getting it done

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[Dat2U]

Would you guys be interested in a package that included Kelly Oubre Jr, Tomas Satoransky & Markieff Morris?

[Jamaaliver]

Wow. The RealGM trade offers I've seen since this announcement are horrid.


Trading Millsap is a necessity, but I'm still skeptical. Word is the Hawks have an extremely high price tag. Which seems shortsighted. If we wanted maximum value in trade for him, we should have traded him last February or July. Waiting until the last minute to trade our top rated PF on an expiring contract amidst an underwhelming season...feels like Groundhog's Day. Reliving the same scenario over and over again.

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[GlenRiceARoni]

Well yeah he's a free agent. Why would anyone give up a lot for a guy they could just sign outright in the offseason? Especially when Millsap doesn't make many teams competitive with the Warriors or Cavs...

Besides his next deal will probably end up with negative equity.

Marv on a cheap deal and a 1st is a lot of value if he comes out of his shooting slump.

1st round picks are golden now because they are locked into such cheap deals

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[jayu70]

Well yeah he's a free agent. Why would anyone give up a lot for a guy they could just sign outright in the offseason? Especially when Millsap doesn't make many teams competitive with the Warriors or Cavs...

Besides his next deal will probably end up with negative equity.

Marv on a cheap deal and a 1st is a lot of value if he comes out of his shooting slump.

1st round picks are golden now because they are locked into such cheap deals

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How many teams can actually sign him out right in the offseason?

[GlenRiceARoni]

Plenty... a lot of teams already have cap space so it should be very easy to acquire cap space if necessary. Like gsw did by giving away Bogut.

Millsap is pretty good. You'll see teams making an effort to land him if he hits the market.

He's not good enough to give away a huge combination of young talent, lotto picks, or guys locked into below market deals though... he's a free agent looking for a monster deal at age 32.

He's a potential huge liability not a major asset on a 4/ $120 type deal

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[Patsfan1081]

I agree. I was amazed Dallas didn't cave in and offered Dwight and Parsons the max. ATL definitely lucked up. I don't think anybody could have said a year ago Dwight would be in ATL.

Yeah, I hope management just be straight up with Millsap saying they won't offer him the 35 mil a year extension and try to work out a trade somewhere where he'd resign. If it's Boston, I'd hope ATL guts them in a trade - Bradley/Crowder and a Nets pick.

We wouldn't get the Nets pick for an expiring Millsap on the wrong side of 30. I agree with asking for as much as possible from Boston, but Danny Ainge has been extremely reluctant in trading those Nets picks, and I don't think Paul will be enough.

True. Bradley/Brown/Jerebko.

Dennis/Bradley/Baze/Jerebko/Dwight

I wouldn't mind Boston picking up Milsap but there's no way Ainge resigns him in the offseason after paying a 30 plus year old Horford last season. He def isn't going to give up the third pick in the last draft and Bradley(who's having a career year) for a rental. I'm sure playoff teams would love to add Milsap for a playoff push but It wouldn't make sense for them to give up one of their best players under control for him. You'd just be creating a hole somewhere else in the lineup. Teams like Denver or Sac, that could resign him and are currently fringe playoff teams, make a lot more sense.

[Jamaaliver]

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