Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV

[Jamaaliver]

Injuries have made it an eval period for most of the roster. See if Mo can develop into an NBA player. If Dyson can be the backcourt mate to Trae. See if ZR can be the permanent 3 going forward. If OO can actually hold down the 5, etc.

Also if the new guys are worth keeping after the season. With Zion it shouldn't take too too much, but I can see them asking for ZR, OO, and a 2025 pick.

Dyson, OO and even Risacher I get.

But Mo Gueye is actively harmful on the court right now.

Seems like if he's only going to get 8 minutes against OKC, they could be 10 minutes against their backups while any of Mann, Levert or Niang should start in his place.

[Astaluego]

Would you trade the KINGS pick along with Niang for Claxton and the Knicks pick?

[Jamaaliver]

Would you trade the KINGS pick along with Niang for Claxton and the Knicks pick?

It's not a terrible deal. I wouldn't personally, but I do believe the Hawks would consider the offer.

The biggest impediment is Claxton's salary. But the fact it declines in cost over the next 4 years makes it a really attractive trade piece.

[Rebound Mound]

Speaking of Gueye, as I see they are trying to develop him, don't you think he is not playing enough time for him to gain some consistency? Also, don't you think he should be playing more off the bench, so he can face other bench players and boost his confidence? It is strange to me that he plays 5 minutes at the beginning of the halfs, misses some threes and then he usually does not play in 2nd and 4th quarters...

The decision to move Gueye into the starting lineup of a semi-competitive veteran-laden team is indeed madness.

Hurts the team with very little benefit to the player or the rotation.

I can't help but wonder if this forced evaluation indicates MG is in a make or break period.

Otherwise, it's just really dumb to make the kid struggle against NBA starters and then leave him rotting on the bench against NBA backups.

Injuries have made it an eval period for most of the roster. See if Mo can develop into an NBA player. If Dyson can be the backcourt mate to Trae. See if ZR can be the permanent 3 going forward. If OO can actually hold down the 5, etc.

Also if the new guys are worth keeping after the season. With Zion it shouldn't take too too much, but I can see them asking for ZR, OO, and a 2025 pick.

That is the eternal question with him.
If he is going to play 70+ in every RS, then that is a cheap trade. Zion is one of a kind. But JJ would have to play SF.

[HMFFL]

Would you trade the KINGS pick along with Niang for Claxton and the Knicks pick?

Pass!

Nic Claxton is expected to start over OO.  
I will stick with OO for financial reasons and for the direction his game is developing.

Career Highs:
OO 30pts, 21rebs, 7ast, 4stls, 5blks

Nic Claxton 27pts, 17rebs, 6ast, 4stls, 7blks

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[Jamaaliver]

Nic Claxton is expected to start over OO.  
I will stick to OO for financial reasons and for the direction his game is developing.

Career Highs:
OO 30pts, 21rebs, 7ast, 4stls, 5blks

Nic Claxton 27pts, 17rebs, 6ast, 4stls, 7blks

A Few Thoughts:

1. Not only would Okongwu and Claxton be the best Center platoon in the NBA (by a mile), there are viable scenarios where they could share the floor for a few defensive minutes at the end of halves.
   
   
   
2. Okongwu and Jalen each get injured a lot. A veteran big man filling those empty minutes makes life a lot easier for us to survive injury to either.
   
   
   
3. You can just increase Claxton's trade value and then flip him for future picks pretty easily. (I bet Spurs would have interest circa 2027.)

[Rebound Mound]

You cannot be serious.
Claxton is the most similar thing to CC that one can find around the league.
A prehistoric center who cannot shoot, pass, score FTs or be a menace other than shooting from 2 feet.

[HMFFL]

Nic Claxton is expected to start over OO.  
I will stick to OO for financial reasons and for the direction his game is developing.

Career Highs:
OO 30pts, 21rebs, 7ast, 4stls, 5blks

Nic Claxton 27pts, 17rebs, 6ast, 4stls, 7blks

A Few Thoughts:

1. Not only would Okongwu and Claxton be the best Center platoon in the NBA (by a mile), there are viable scenarios where they could share the floor for a few defensive minutes at the end of halves.
   
   
   
2. Okongwu and Jalen each get injured a lot. A veteran big man filling those empty minutes makes life a lot easier for us to survive injury to either.
   
   
   
3. You can just increase Claxton's trade value and then flip him for future picks pretty easily. (I bet Spurs would have interest circa 2027.)

I took all of that into consideration.
As a UGA fan, I wanted us to trade up in the draft for Claxston, but he went 31st to begin the second round, and we drafted Bruno 34th. I want a big man that is tall and can shoot/defend.



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[Rebound Mound]

I wonder why we do not have a post to write/read about the development of the team/season, as we just have one for trades. I pose this question because the old users for sure have an answer, but may be it lays on the fact that there is not much action, sadly, in this space of the Hawks.

With that said, I would like to say that I love the way Snyder is using the players now, how the new faces have adapted to the group and the great and happy atmosphere that seems to be inside the team.

We are now in a position that, with all the movements, injuries and players ending contracts, Kirk still manages to offer a very competitive team and also develop players and, at the same time, fight for a PI spot.

The only fact that I do not like is that Niang is playing too many minutes, IMO, instead of Gueye, but I believe that some other reasons are involved, such as the opponent and Gueye's endurance.
Another thing that I would change is some of the fives that Kirk is using, as I would like to see more different combinations. I mean, he is always using OO+Gueye once Nance is out and also CC+Niang most of the time. Does he think that OO+Niang is not a good combination, ant the same with Gueye+CC?

It is really a pity that Krecj is injured, because he was in a great stage of his development and playing some PG with his frame. I always thought that players who cause injuries to others should be sanction for the same time that the injured player is out due to his anti sportmen plays...

[jayu70]

I wonder why we do not have a post to write/read about the development of the team/season, as we just have one for trades. I pose this question because the old users for sure have an answer, but may be it lays on the fact that there is not much action, sadly, in this space of the Hawks.

With that said, I would like to say that I love the way Snyder is using the players now, how the new faces have adapted to the group and the great and happy atmosphere that seems to be inside the team.

We are now in a position that, with all the movements, injuries and players ending contracts, Kirk still manages to offer a very competitive team and also develop players and, at the same time, fight for a PI spot.

The only fact that I do not like is that Niang is playing too many minutes, IMO, instead of Gueye, but I believe that some other reasons are involved, such as the opponent and Gueye's endurance.
Another thing that I would change is some of the fives that Kirk is using, as I would like to see more different combinations. I mean, he is always using OO+Gueye once Nance is out and also CC+Niang most of the time. Does he think that OO+Niang is not a good combination, ant the same with Gueye+CC?

It is really a pity that Krecj is injured, because he was in a great stage of his development and playing some PG with his frame. I always thought that players who cause injuries to others should be sanction for the same time that the injured player is out due to his anti sportmen plays...

Who is KIRK????
Vit is back for tonight's game.

[jayu70]

I wonder why we do not have a post to write/read about the development of the team/season, as we just have one for trades. I pose this question because the old users for sure have an answer, but may be it lays on the fact that there is not much action, sadly, in this space of the Hawks.
.

This site is more active:
https://www.hawksquawk.net/forum/1-homecourt/

[Jamaaliver]

I wonder why we do not have a post to write/read about the development of the team/season, as we just have one for trades. I pose this question because the old users for sure have an answer, but may be it lays on the fact that there is not much action, sadly, in this space of the Hawks.

Spoiler:

1. Welcome aboard, mate. We're always glad to have new, active members on the forum.

2. If you ever have a topic to discuss and don't see an existing thread, feel free to create a new one!!!

3. We've got a few different threads going that might be what you're looking for:

• Hawks Quarterly Report Card
• Hawks -- State of the Franchise
• What will Hawks offense look like under Quin Snyder?
• Can the Hawks Defense Improve?
• Hawks Rotations and Lineups in the Quin Era
• Report Card: Grade Quin's Tenure as Hawks Head Coach

Most important takeaway...we're glad you're here. And we hope you stick around.

You'll find we're a small but passionate crew of Hawks fans here.

[Jamaaliver]

When will Zion become available?

25/26 $39,446,090 (Next Season)
26/27 $42,166,510
27/28 $44,886,930
28/29 UFA (28 years old)

Not anytime soon...kid is on a real heater.

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[Rebound Mound]

I wonder why we do not have a post to write/read about the development of the team/season, as we just have one for trades. I pose this question because the old users for sure have an answer, but may be it lays on the fact that there is not much action, sadly, in this space of the Hawks.
.

This site is more active:
https://www.hawksquawk.net/forum/1-homecourt/

Thx, man.
But you have to pay, right?

[Rebound Mound]

I wonder why we do not have a post to write/read about the development of the team/season, as we just have one for trades. I pose this question because the old users for sure have an answer, but may be it lays on the fact that there is not much action, sadly, in this space of the Hawks.

Spoiler:

1. Welcome aboard, mate. We're always glad to have new, active members on the forum.

2. If you ever have a topic to discuss and don't see an existing thread, feel free to create a new one!!!

3. We've got a few different threads going that might be what you're looking for:

• Hawks Quarterly Report Card
• Hawks -- State of the Franchise
• What will Hawks offense look like under Quin Snyder?
• Can the Hawks Defense Improve?
• Hawks Rotations and Lineups in the Quin Era
• Report Card: Grade Quin's Tenure as Hawks Head Coach

Most important takeaway...we're glad you're here. And we hope you stick around.

You'll find we're a small but passionate crew of Hawks fans here.

Thank you very much.
It is not like I am new here, but it has been difficult to stick around (do not want to comment further for the moment).

I feel like all those threads are like very specific and like we lack a general one talking about everything together: trades, style of play, changes, lineups... is that the state of the franchise? I do not believe so...

[Jamaaliver]

I feel like all those threads are like very specific and like we lack a general one talking about everything together: trades, style of play, changes, lineups... is that the state of the franchise? I do not believe so...

Noted.

You know what to do, man!!!

Spoiler:

It is not like I am new here, but it has been difficult to stick around (do not want to comment further for the moment).

If anyone asks...you were never here.




(Jayu and Jamaaliver when the Feds come snooping around):

[jayu70]

I wonder why we do not have a post to write/read about the development of the team/season, as we just have one for trades. I pose this question because the old users for sure have an answer, but may be it lays on the fact that there is not much action, sadly, in this space of the Hawks.
.

This site is more active:
https://www.hawksquawk.net/forum/1-homecourt/

Thx, man.
But you have to pay, right?

No

[HMFFL]

I wonder why we do not have a post to write/read about the development of the team/season, as we just have one for trades. I pose this question because the old users for sure have an answer, but may be it lays on the fact that there is not much action, sadly, in this space of the Hawks.
.

This site is more active:
https://www.hawksquawk.net/forum/1-homecourt/

Thx, man.
But you have to pay, right?

Are you here to talk about basketball or to promote another forum that we're all aware of?

AHF is that you?

The donations are BS anyways as it doesn't take that amount of donstion money to run a small forum of that caliber. It's a scam!

Like myself and others, that forum became oddly difficult to be part of, and AHF did nothing to contribute here. Msny of us used Realgm and Hawksquak once the ESPN boards went down over twenty years ago.

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[jayu70]

This site is more active:
https://www.hawksquawk.net/forum/1-homecourt/

Thx, man.
But you have to pay, right?

Are you here to talk about basketball or to promote another forum that we're all aware of?

I'm sure my post count here suggests that I talk more than enough basketball.

[HMFFL]

Thx, man.
But you have to pay, right?

Are you here to talk about basketball or to promote another forum that we're all aware of?

I'm sure my post count here suggests that I talk more than enough basketball.

Not you jay...lol

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