Absurdly early 2018 NBA Draft Thread

[jayu70]

^Tyler Dorsey?
D'Andre Bembry?

Meant in the Draft.
Bembry can handle but can't shoot. I haven't seen enough of Dorsey.
I'm looking for a wing that can carry the offensive load if need be.

[Jamaaliver]

I think she means in the upcoming draft

1. I know...I was being obnoxious.

2. I was also attempting to point out the futility of basing future draft picks based on the modest talent base we already have.

If we miss out on the next Durant because we kinda like Taurean Prince...

Or pass up the next David Robinson because Collins might, possibly, someday be a capable starter...

That would be short sighted.

I agree we could use a scoring wing. But bigger picture--we just need a massive infusion of talent.


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[jayu70]

I think she means in the upcoming draft

1. I know...I was being obnoxious.

2. I was also attempting to point out the futility of basing future draft picks based on the modest talent base we already have.

If we miss out on the next Durant because we kinda like Taurean Prince...

Or pass up the next David Robinson because Collins might, possibly, someday be a capable starter...

That would be short sighted.

I agree we could use a scoring wing. But bigger picture--we just need a massive infusion of talent.


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Again, I'm asking if there is anyone in this draft class that fits the mold that would be worth picking WHEN we get the top pick or is it one of the bigs that warrant the top spot?

[Spud2nique]

I think she means in the upcoming draft

1. I know...I was being obnoxious.

2. I was also attempting to point out the futility of basing future draft picks based on the modest talent base we already have.

If we miss out on the next Durant because we kinda like Taurean Prince...

Or pass up the next David Robinson because Collins might, possibly, someday be a capable starter...

That would be short sighted.

I agree we could use a scoring wing. But bigger picture--we just need a massive infusion of talent.


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Again, I'm asking if there is anyone in this draft class that fits the mold that would be worth picking WHEN we get the top pick or is it one of the bigs that warrant the top spot?

That's what's so great about this draft...1-5 have a chance to be special. Could be Bagley or Doncic or even Porter at #1...that's a pf/c, a sg/pg in Doncic and a sf in Porter. That's falls through and 2 more big men are sitting there.

So to answer your question, I dunno whose at the top spot, and whoever tells you they do is lying...9 months away..lot could happen..

[kg01]

I think she means in the upcoming draft

Uh, yeah I know that. It was just a funny. You're getting so mean in your old age, macd. I'm glad the season is upon us so you can cast your wicked gaze upon opposing teams' fans.

[macd-gm]

I think she means in the upcoming draft

Uh, yeah I know that. It was just a funny. You're getting so mean in your old age, macd. I'm glad the season is upon us so you can cast your wicked gaze upon opposing teams' fans.

Shut up Donnie!

To jay's point, i understand there are great players at a lot of positions coming up in the draft. Especially big men. but we need to recognize that it's wing dominated league and has been for about 30 years. If there isn't an obvious talent gap, I'm taking the wing every time. Do you want Blake Griffin or James Harden, Oden or Durant, Bogut or Marvin....eh well forget that one.

[kg01]

I think she means in the upcoming draft

Uh, yeah I know that. It was just a funny. You're getting so mean in your old age, macd. I'm glad the season is upon us so you can cast your wicked gaze upon opposing teams' fans.

Shut up Donnie!

To jay's point, i understand there are great players at a lot of positions coming up in the draft. Especially big men. but we need to recognize that it's wing dominated league and has been for about 30 years. If there isn't an obvious talent gap, I'm taking the wing every time. Do you want Blake Griffin or James Harden, Oden or Durant, Bogut or Marvin....eh well forget that one.

So mean.

Agree that we need to upgrade wang talent. We get nowhere near what we need from our wangs. We hope Printz takes a step up ... didn't happen in pre-game 1, hope we see it when the real bullets fly.

Also, on this draft stuff, none of these '18 guys look like future stars to me. Yawn.

[macd-gm]

I wonder if we can move picks for a potential star that's already in the league. Who'll be on the move next summer?

[Jamaaliver]

...we need to recognize that it's wing dominated league and has been for about 30 years. If there isn't an obvious talent gap, I'm taking the wing every time.

Ooooh. Now this is a topic I'd love to debate in-depth at some point.

Hakeem, Shaq and Duncan have literally won half of the NBA titles in the last 22 years. Even before that, Kareem and Parish/McHale played pretty big roles on the 80s dynasties.

Jordan, Kobe and LeBron get all the hype. But the big men have been putting in work for decades.

Admittedly, the last decade has largely been dominated by wings. But Hall Of Fame bigs like Garnett, Dirk, Bosh, Duncan played integral roles even in recent title runs.

[kg01]

...we need to recognize that it's wing dominated league and has been for about 30 years. If there isn't an obvious talent gap, I'm taking the wing every time.

Ooooh. Now this is a topic I'd love to debate in-depth at some point.

Hakeem, Shaq and Duncan have literally won half of the NBA titles in the last 22 years. Even before that, Kareem and Parish/McHale played pretty big roles on the 80s dynasties.

Jordan, Kobe and LeBron get all the hype. But the big men have been putting in work for decades.

Admittedly, the last decade has largely been dominated by wings. But Hall Of Fame bigs like Garnett, Dirk, Bosh, Duncan played integral roles even in recent title runs.

I'd say revisit this concept post rule changes which allow ballhandlers to shake, shimmy and pretty much get wherever they want on the court. Meanwhile, post fouls continue to go uncalled.

[Jamaaliver]

...we need to recognize that it's wing dominated league and has been for about 30 years. If there isn't an obvious talent gap, I'm taking the wing every time.

Admittedly, the last decade has largely been dominated by wings. But Hall Of Fame bigs like Garnett, Dirk, Bosh, Duncan played integral roles even in recent title runs.

I'd say revisit this concept post rule changes which allow ballhandlers to shake, shimmy and pretty much get wherever they want on the court. Meanwhile, post fouls continue to go uncalled.

Great.

Point.


NOTE: Ayton has the skill set to dominate this conference for the next decade. Porter has the skillset to be a leading scorer throughout his career.

No other prospect this year can offer either of those.

[kg01]

Admittedly, the last decade has largely been dominated by wings. But Hall Of Fame bigs like Garnett, Dirk, Bosh, Duncan played integral roles even in recent title runs.

I'd say revisit this concept post rule changes which allow ballhandlers to shake, shimmy and pretty much get wherever they want on the court. Meanwhile, post fouls continue to go uncalled.

Great.

Point.


NOTE: Ayton has the skill set to dominate this conference for the next decade. Porter has the skillset to be a leading scorer throughout his career.

No other prospect this year can offer either of those.

You say Ayton and Porter but all I hear is Nerlens and Wiggins. Remember how transcendent they were gonna be?

[Jamaaliver]

You say Ayton and Porter but all I hear is Nerlens and Wiggins. Remember how transcendent they were gonna be?

Touche.

[kg01]

You say Ayton and Porter but all I hear is Nerlens and Wiggins. Remember how transcendent they were gonna be?

Touche.

In all honesty, I can see them being good players but most (not all) recent entrants to the NBA seem to suffer from the same problem ... how to impact winning, not simply produce numbers. I bet Porter comes in and scores well but will he impact winning? That is the question. It's one of Wiggins' problems. I believe Simmons, Fultz will have the same problem. Simmons will likely put up a bunch of near-triple double lines but PHI will be losing. Fultz will score in the 20's many nights but PHI will be losing. Why? Because they clearly don't impact winning. If they did, they would've been in the NCAA tournament.

[jayu70]

I think she means in the upcoming draft

Uh, yeah I know that. It was just a funny. You're getting so mean in your old age, macd. I'm glad the season is upon us so you can cast your wicked gaze upon opposing teams' fans.

Shut up Donnie!

Do you want Blake Griffin or James Harden, Oden or Durant, Bogut or Marvin....eh well forget that one.

[macd-gm]

...we need to recognize that it's wing dominated league and has been for about 30 years. If there isn't an obvious talent gap, I'm taking the wing every time.

Ooooh. Now this is a topic I'd love to debate in-depth at some point.

Hakeem, Shaq and Duncan have literally won half of the NBA titles in the last 22 years. Even before that, Kareem and Parish/McHale played pretty big roles on the 80s dynasties.

Jordan, Kobe and LeBron get all the hype. But the big men have been putting in work for decades.

Admittedly, the last decade has largely been dominated by wings. But Hall Of Fame bigs like Garnett, Dirk, Bosh, Duncan played integral roles even in recent title runs.

Hey now. First of all. I'm not good with timeframes. I'd say Terry Stotts was our coach probably 35 years ago and the Mavs won the title, oh i don't know, 18 years ago?

I think a great wing can win a championship without a great big but not vice versa.

Also think that we will never see another Shaq type big. And the impact of a Tim Duncan has been lessened by the style of play now (see Marc Gasol).

[Spud2nique]

...we need to recognize that it's wing dominated league and has been for about 30 years. If there isn't an obvious talent gap, I'm taking the wing every time.

Ooooh. Now this is a topic I'd love to debate in-depth at some point.

Hakeem, Shaq and Duncan have literally won half of the NBA titles in the last 22 years. Even before that, Kareem and Parish/McHale played pretty big roles on the 80s dynasties.

Jordan, Kobe and LeBron get all the hype. But the big men have been putting in work for decades.

Admittedly, the last decade has largely been dominated by wings. But Hall Of Fame bigs like Garnett, Dirk, Bosh, Duncan played integral roles even in recent title runs.

Hey now. First of all. I'm not good with timeframes. I'd say Terry Stotts was our coach probably 35 years ago and the Mavs won the title, oh i don't know, 18 years ago?

I think a great wing can win a championship without a great big but not vice versa.

Also think that we will never see another Shaq type big. And the impact of a Tim Duncan has been lessened by the style of play now (see Marc Gasol).

MacD thinks the Cold War just ended and the release of the mcRib was last week....(kg don't ..yes I do lovemm but that's not the point here..)

[macd-gm]

I keep hearing about this new mcRib. Need to try that.

[Spud2nique]

Admittedly, the last decade has largely been dominated by wings. But Hall Of Fame bigs like Garnett, Dirk, Bosh, Duncan played integral roles even in recent title runs.

I'd say revisit this concept post rule changes which allow ballhandlers to shake, shimmy and pretty much get wherever they want on the court. Meanwhile, post fouls continue to go uncalled.

Great.

Point.


NOTE: Ayton has the skill set to dominate this conference for the next decade. Porter has the skillset to be a leading scorer throughout his career.

No other prospect this year can offer either of those.

Bagley?

Possibly you are right but if I have the first pick personally and the draft is tomorrow, I'm going Doncic without a doubt. I'm telling you guys, he's not just another player...this could be our Dirk!

Yes, he hasn't played one second in the NBA, but he has the type of game that will translate on any level because of his superior intellect on the court...he's a type of player that can and will adapt to any setting in my opinion.

Just my humble opinion...if you disagree I can be reached at 800-555-LOGS. Thank you.

[kg01]

Ooooh. Now this is a topic I'd love to debate in-depth at some point.

Hakeem, Shaq and Duncan have literally won half of the NBA titles in the last 22 years. Even before that, Kareem and Parish/McHale played pretty big roles on the 80s dynasties.

Jordan, Kobe and LeBron get all the hype. But the big men have been putting in work for decades.

Admittedly, the last decade has largely been dominated by wings. But Hall Of Fame bigs like Garnett, Dirk, Bosh, Duncan played integral roles even in recent title runs.

Hey now. First of all. I'm not good with timeframes. I'd say Terry Stotts was our coach probably 35 years ago and the Mavs won the title, oh i don't know, 18 years ago?

I think a great wing can win a championship without a great big but not vice versa.

Also think that we will never see another Shaq type big. And the impact of a Tim Duncan has been lessened by the style of play now (see Marc Gasol).

MacD thinks the Cold War just ended and the release of the mcRib was last week....(kg don't ..yes I do lovemm but that's not the point here..)

Lol @ you thinking you had to let us know you loved mcribs We know, Spud2. We know.

c.s.b. time ... so I started working at McDonalds when I was like 15. McRib time was the greatest. Used that mcrib sauce on nuggets all day long. Never figured out why the meat pattie was shaped as if it had the bones in.

Anyways, carry on ...