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What does the ideal lineup around Trae even look like?

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Re: What does the ideal lineup around Trae even look like? 

Post#121 » by Jamaaliver » Fri May 31, 2024 2:35 am

Harrison Barnes as a 3 & D Combo Forward next to Jalen, Trae and Bogdan makes a ton of sense.

And if we could get them to send Huerter back to us, too...even better.

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Re: What does the ideal lineup around Trae even look like? 

Post#122 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Jun 4, 2024 3:11 pm

Get him in HERE!!!!

Trade Alex Sarr to Washington for Avdija and #2.

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Re: What does the ideal lineup around Trae even look like? 

Post#123 » by tbhawksfan1 » Tue Jun 4, 2024 3:33 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:Get him in HERE!!!!

Trade Alex Sarr to Washington for Avdija and #2.

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Now your proposing a trade with good value to the Hawks
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Re: What does the ideal lineup around Trae even look like? 

Post#124 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:23 pm

This guy would be an ideal fit between Jalen and Trae.

  • Elite Catch & Shoot player from deep.
  • Big enough to exploit mismatches in the post.
  • Can put the ball on the floor and attack the rim against hard closeouts.

The question is how much will it cost to get him and then to re-sign him?

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Re: What does the ideal lineup around Trae even look like? 

Post#125 » by jayu70 » Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:39 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:This guy would be an ideal fit between Jalen and Trae......

.....on offense.
What's the defensive game plan? We can't stay bottom of the barrel.
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Re: What does the ideal lineup around Trae even look like? 

Post#126 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:51 pm

jayu70 wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:This guy would be an ideal fit between Jalen and Trae......

.....on offense.
What's the defensive game plan? We can't stay bottom of the barrel.



Lauri isn't a a terrible defender. At 7 foot, he has a height advantage over most SFs/PFs and is faster than most Centers.

In a lineup next to Okongwu/Jalen and a 3&D Shooting Guard, I believe Markkanen can be part of a capable defensive unit.


Nuggets proved that an elite offensive team can win a title by just being solid on defense.
That is still the model I'm following...
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Re: What does the ideal lineup around Trae even look like? 

Post#127 » by jayu70 » Mon Jun 17, 2024 6:01 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
jayu70 wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:This guy would be an ideal fit between Jalen and Trae......

.....on offense.
What's the defensive game plan? We can't stay bottom of the barrel.



Lauri isn't a a terrible defender. At 7 foot, he has a height advantage over most SFs/PFs and is faster than most Centers.

In a lineup next to Okongwu/Jalen and a 3&D Shooting Guard, I believe Markkanen can be part of a capable defensive unit.


Nuggets proved that an elite offensive team can win a title by just being solid on defense.
That is still the model I'm following...

Hawks aren't solid though. They are terrible.
I thought one of the reasons Cavs moved him was his defense.
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Re: What does the ideal lineup around Trae even look like? 

Post#128 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Jun 17, 2024 6:09 pm

jayu70 wrote:Hawks aren't solid though. They are terrible.

I thought one of the reasons Cavs moved him was his defense.



I'm of the belief that the Hawks were bad defensively because of the double point guard lineup combined with Capela's slow decline.

Point of attack defense was dreadful and backline defense was inconsistent.

I know I'm a broken record at this point, but our best lineup for the 2024 season was:

Trae
Bogdan
Saddiq
Jalen
Okongwu.

They were dominant on offense and extremely effective on defense.
Markkanen represents a clear upgrade over Saddiq.
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Re: What does the ideal lineup around Trae even look like? 

Post#129 » by HMFFL » Tue Jun 18, 2024 12:53 am

Jamaaliver wrote:
jayu70 wrote:Hawks aren't solid though. They are terrible.

I thought one of the reasons Cavs moved him was his defense.



I'm of the belief that the Hawks were bad defensively because of the double point guard lineup combined with Capela's slow decline.

Point of attack defense was dreadful and backline defense was inconsistent.

I know I'm a broken record at this point, but our best lineup for the 2024 season was:

Trae
Bogdan
Saddiq
Jalen
Okongwu.

They were dominant on offense and extremely effective on defense.
Markkanen represents a clear upgrade over Saddiq.



The big man is back and Okongwu to me won't work at the 5. OO is 6'8" without shoes. We're doomed with that lineup.
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Re: What does the ideal lineup around Trae even look like? 

Post#130 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Jun 18, 2024 2:02 am

HMFFL wrote:The big man is back and Okongwu to me won't work at the 5. OO is 6'8" without shoes. We're doomed with that lineup.


Clearly the front office agrees, thus all the attention on drafting 7'2" Donovan Clingan in the lottery.

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Re: What does the ideal lineup around Trae even look like? 

Post#131 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Jun 18, 2024 7:40 pm

Definitely a guy I'd kick the tires on as a backup PG.

Low risk very high reward type of acquisition.

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Re: What does the ideal lineup around Trae even look like? 

Post#132 » by tbhawksfan1 » Wed Jun 19, 2024 10:27 am

HMFFL wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:
jayu70 wrote:Hawks aren't solid though. They are terrible.

I thought one of the reasons Cavs moved him was his defense.



I'm of the belief that the Hawks were bad defensively because of the double point guard lineup combined with Capela's slow decline.

Point of attack defense was dreadful and backline defense was inconsistent.

I know I'm a broken record at this point, but our best lineup for the 2024 season was:

Trae
Bogdan
Saddiq
Jalen
Okongwu.

They were dominant on offense and extremely effective on defense.
Markkanen represents a clear upgrade over Saddiq.



The big man is back and Okongwu to me won't work at the 5. OO is 6'8" without shoes. We're doomed with that lineup.



That's why we need to turn it into

OO / Sarr / JJ / SG / Trae
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Re: What does the ideal lineup around Trae even look like? 

Post#133 » by tbhawksfan1 » Wed Jun 19, 2024 10:40 am

If the team is deadset on a BIG C, then trade back for a pick mid to late teens and get Edey / Ware / Fili

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Re: What does the ideal lineup around Trae even look like? 

Post#134 » by tbhawksfan1 » Wed Jun 19, 2024 6:52 pm

Why can't Trae win more with what we have? I say our team is winning way under it's talent level. At some point the best player has to step up...as well as the others... I'm not sure that Trae has a foot to stand on reguarding a trade request... Playing with Wemby is the only thing that could make sense for him as for trades

I have no idea how the Hawks put a championship team around Trae
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Re: What does the ideal lineup around Trae even look like? 

Post#135 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Jun 19, 2024 7:04 pm

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Re: What does the ideal lineup around Trae even look like? 

Post#136 » by Jamaaliver » Thu Jun 20, 2024 12:37 pm

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Re: What does the ideal lineup around Trae even look like? 

Post#138 » by HMFFL » Fri Jun 21, 2024 3:17 am

Jamaaliver wrote:Get him in HERE!!!!

Trade Alex Sarr to Washington for Avdija and #2.

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He's expected to be much better. It took time for him to adjust or prove himself to the Wizard. He needs to have the third most field goal attempts on their team per night.
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Post#139 » by HMFFL » Fri Jun 21, 2024 3:54 am

Jamaaliver wrote:Definitely a guy I'd kick the tires on as a backup PG.

Low risk very high reward type of acquisition.

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I have always been a fan of Davion Mitchell. Good scorer he does have plenty of negatives. However, if we can acquire him for little, I would like for us too.
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Re: What does the ideal lineup around Trae even look like? 

Post#140 » by Jamaaliver » Fri Jun 21, 2024 12:10 pm

HMFFL wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:Get him in HERE!!!!

Trade Alex Sarr to Washington for Avdija and #2.


He's expected to be much better. It took time for him to adjust or prove himself to the Wizard. He needs to have the third most field goal attempts on their team per night.


IMO, WAS should be running their offense through him.

He might be their best offensive player.

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