2019 NBA Draft Prep

[Spud2nique]

Are you guys talking the Wizards Bryant? If so, easy pass for me. His defense is matador status. Him and Collins would be a layup line for frontcourt in the NBA

Dude looked like DeAndre Jordan when we played him..

We make a lot of young bigs look good v. Us. Outside of Trae, we have no slashers. 2-10. Hamilton was our only slasher in the rotation off the pine and he is no longer in the NBA.

I like Bryant as far screen setting and rolling to the basket. He does seem to be a low risk high reward type of a player and a better bang for our buck compared to guys like Whiteside, Kanter, McGee and other available centers via free agency. Having said that, he doesn’t really fit our scheme of having our bigs be able to dial long distance. Probably one of the few things Bryant can’t do well.

I could go either way on him... of course...

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[Spud2nique]

I wouldn’t even be mad if we skipped out on a big in this draft and stayed patient. I’m not loving any centers in this draft. Gafford a bit but still not really too much.

We should draft a center but not in the lottery, that would be a mistake

Yeah, whatever C we get will likely be a defensive specialist type. Them guys can be had in late 1st/second round if they scout right.

I still say we should target Bryant from WAS. Only thing is he's restricted. Maybe WAS matches just 'cause that's what they do. Can't be bidding against WAS. They're stupid with their money.

I don’t know why there’s no center in the draft or free agency that intrigues me. Could we trade for one? The only other one is a guy like Robin Lopez. He’s pretty physical but gives good minutes. On the other hand he’s a vet who might want to play for a contender or have a bigger price tag than what we’re looking to spend at this stage.

[King Ken]

Dude looked like DeAndre Jordan when we played him..

We make a lot of young bigs look good v. Us. Outside of Trae, we have no slashers. 2-10. Hamilton was our only slasher in the rotation off the pine and he is no longer in the NBA.

I like Bryant as far screen setting and rolling to the basket. He does seem to be a low risk high reward type of a player and a better bang for our buck compared to guys like Whiteside, Kanter, McGee and other available centers via free agency. Having said that, he doesn’t really fit our scheme of having our bigs be able to dial long distance. Probably one of the few things Bryant can’t do well.

I could go either way on him... of course...

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He has some good traits but he is always going to be a 3-4 million dollar guy with his defense being the way it is. He likely won't reach the levels of Dedmon and guys like that

[King Ken]

We should draft a center but not in the lottery, that would be a mistake

Yeah, whatever C we get will likely be a defensive specialist type. Them guys can be had in late 1st/second round if they scout right.

I still say we should target Bryant from WAS. Only thing is he's restricted. Maybe WAS matches just 'cause that's what they do. Can't be bidding against WAS. They're stupid with their money.

I don’t know why there’s no center in the draft or free agency that intrigues me. Could we trade for one? The only other one is a guy like Robin Lopez. He’s pretty physical but gives good minutes. On the other hand he’s a vet who might want to play for a contender or have a bigger price tag than what we’re looking to spend at this stage.

Smart defender but can't defend in space at this stage of his career and he is a negative on offense.

[Spud2nique]

We make a lot of young bigs look good v. Us. Outside of Trae, we have no slashers. 2-10. Hamilton was our only slasher in the rotation off the pine and he is no longer in the NBA.

I like Bryant as far screen setting and rolling to the basket. He does seem to be a low risk high reward type of a player and a better bang for our buck compared to guys like Whiteside, Kanter, McGee and other available centers via free agency. Having said that, he doesn’t really fit our scheme of having our bigs be able to dial long distance. Probably one of the few things Bryant can’t do well.

I could go either way on him... of course...

Watch on YouTube

He has some good traits but he is always going to be a 3-4 million dollar guy with his defense being the way it is. He likely won't reach the levels of Dedmon and guys like that

Can he develop a 3 ball? His body type and shooting style suggests he can’t. Then again everyone and their moms has developed a 3. He just seems like a Dwight Howard type of shooter which isn’t great by any means.

[Spud2nique]

Yeah, whatever C we get will likely be a defensive specialist type. Them guys can be had in late 1st/second round if they scout right.

I still say we should target Bryant from WAS. Only thing is he's restricted. Maybe WAS matches just 'cause that's what they do. Can't be bidding against WAS. They're stupid with their money.

I don’t know why there’s no center in the draft or free agency that intrigues me. Could we trade for one? The only other one is a guy like Robin Lopez. He’s pretty physical but gives good minutes. On the other hand he’s a vet who might want to play for a contender or have a bigger price tag than what we’re looking to spend at this stage.

Smart defender but can't defend in space at this stage of his career and he is a negative on offense.

Can Lloyd further develop Robin’s defensive skills?He worked with Embiid in Philly. Maybe add some tools to the old box?

[King Ken]

I like Bryant as far screen setting and rolling to the basket. He does seem to be a low risk high reward type of a player and a better bang for our buck compared to guys like Whiteside, Kanter, McGee and other available centers via free agency. Having said that, he doesn’t really fit our scheme of having our bigs be able to dial long distance. Probably one of the few things Bryant can’t do well.

I could go either way on him... of course...

Watch on YouTube

He has some good traits but he is always going to be a 3-4 million dollar guy with his defense being the way it is. He likely won't reach the levels of Dedmon and guys like that

Can he develop a 3 ball? His body type and shooting style suggests he can’t. Then again everyone and their moms has developed a 3. He just seems like a Dwight Howard type of shooter which isn’t great by any means.

The 3 ball isnt an omen. We seen Len add it and hes barely better than he was last year. It's all for spacing. Bryant in space isn't a threat to do anything with the 3 ball. Just doesn't add much honestly.

[kg01]

I don’t know why there’s no center in the draft or free agency that intrigues me. Could we trade for one? The only other one is a guy like Robin Lopez. He’s pretty physical but gives good minutes. On the other hand he’s a vet who might want to play for a contender or have a bigger price tag than what we’re looking to spend at this stage.

Smart defender but can't defend in space at this stage of his career and he is a negative on offense.

Can Lloyd further develop Robin’s defensive skills?He worked with Embiid in Philly. Maybe add some tools to the old box?

Rob Lo too old for all that noise, bro. Rather he/we find the next Rob Lo type.

[King Ken]

I don’t know why there’s no center in the draft or free agency that intrigues me. Could we trade for one? The only other one is a guy like Robin Lopez. He’s pretty physical but gives good minutes. On the other hand he’s a vet who might want to play for a contender or have a bigger price tag than what we’re looking to spend at this stage.

Smart defender but can't defend in space at this stage of his career and he is a negative on offense.

Can Lloyd further develop Robin’s defensive skills?He worked with Embiid in Philly. Maybe add some tools to the old box?

Embiid added so much value in terms of his mobility around the paint and his offensive pressure he puts on teams that you can't box his impact on a role player. I call it the Kevin Love effect. Some say Love isn't a good defender but he puts so much offensive pressure on a defense that it gives him more defensive freedom due to it. He wears on defensive players slowing down their offense in the process. Embiid does that too.

For someone like Lopez, they need to already be around a good cast to really show their quality and impact. I wouldn't be surprised if Lopez got like 2-3 mil at most from a contender

[Spud2nique]

Smart defender but can't defend in space at this stage of his career and he is a negative on offense.

Can Lloyd further develop Robin’s defensive skills?He worked with Embiid in Philly. Maybe add some tools to the old box?

Rob Lo too old for all that noise, bro. Rather he/we find the next Rob Lo type.

Ya I know he didn’t fit the timeline. Just saw that he was a free agent that didn’t need the ball, does the dirty work and might come less expense than the bigger named free agent centers around.

I guess the draft version of Rolo or closest type seems to be Jaxson Hayes but I really don’t wanna spend a high pick on a center, perhaps that’s just me.

[EazyRoc]

Can Lloyd further develop Robin’s defensive skills?He worked with Embiid in Philly. Maybe add some tools to the old box?

Rob Lo too old for all that noise, bro. Rather he/we find the next Rob Lo type.

Ya I know he didn’t fit the timeline. Just saw that he was a free agent that didn’t need the ball, does the dirty work and might come less expense than the bigger named free agent centers around.

I guess the draft version of Rolo or closest type seems to be Jaxson Hayes but I really don’t wanna spend a high pick on a center, perhaps that’s just me.

Bruno Fernando might be the only big worth drafting in the lottery. He’s getting a lot of good buzz and has a good skill set according to what I’m reading.

[King Ken]

Can Lloyd further develop Robin’s defensive skills?He worked with Embiid in Philly. Maybe add some tools to the old box?

Rob Lo too old for all that noise, bro. Rather he/we find the next Rob Lo type.

Ya I know he didn’t fit the timeline. Just saw that he was a free agent that didn’t need the ball, does the dirty work and might come less expense than the bigger named free agent centers around.

I guess the draft version of Rolo or closest type seems to be Jaxson Hayes but I really don’t wanna spend a high pick on a center, perhaps that’s just me.

We need a vet center, he would fit the timeline. He just isn't good enough or even close to good enough. He wouldn't be as good as Dedmon.

Hayes has the potential but you are basically a sitting a guy for 2 years before he is even rotational. Too high risk for a team like us that has to hit on test.

[Spud2nique]

Smart defender but can't defend in space at this stage of his career and he is a negative on offense.

Can Lloyd further develop Robin’s defensive skills?He worked with Embiid in Philly. Maybe add some tools to the old box?

Embiid added so much value in terms of his mobility around the paint and his offensive pressure he puts on teams that you can't box his impact on a role player. I call it the Kevin Love effect. Some say Love isn't a good defender but he puts so much offensive pressure on a defense that it gives him more defensive freedom due to it. He wears on defensive players slowing down their offense in the process. Embiid does that too.

For someone like Lopez, they need to already be around a good cast to really show their quality and impact. I wouldn't be surprised if Lopez got like 2-3 mil at most from a contender

Agree with much of this except that Rolo needs to be around a good cast of defenders. I actually think if he just played his usual hustle defense that it would allow everyone else like Collins to play more of the “Kevin Love effect” style D for us. Aka Defensive freedom as you stated to roam around and make plays. Because Collins is most definitely a guy that come come from the weak side and block a shot or two.

[Spud2nique]

Rob Lo too old for all that noise, bro. Rather he/we find the next Rob Lo type.

Ya I know he didn’t fit the timeline. Just saw that he was a free agent that didn’t need the ball, does the dirty work and might come less expense than the bigger named free agent centers around.

I guess the draft version of Rolo or closest type seems to be Jaxson Hayes but I really don’t wanna spend a high pick on a center, perhaps that’s just me.

We need a vet center, he would fit the timeline. He just isn't good enough or even close to good enough. He wouldn't be as good as Dedmon.

Hayes has the potential but you are basically a sitting a guy for 2 years before he is even rotational. Too high risk for a team like us that has to hit on test.

I agree. I don’t wanna waste a pick on any of the centers, I actually want either 2 solid wings or a wing and an awesome backup point maybe in Winston Garland’s kid. I watched a lot of Winston himself and he knew how to control a game with tempo, have a feeling Darius is the same.

However if we wait too long before getting a defensive center, a guy like Collins might eventually become frustrated much like Al Horford did when we didn’t get him any help and he ended up playing center for us for 10 years and being pissy about it.

[Spud2nique]

Rob Lo too old for all that noise, bro. Rather he/we find the next Rob Lo type.

Ya I know he didn’t fit the timeline. Just saw that he was a free agent that didn’t need the ball, does the dirty work and might come less expense than the bigger named free agent centers around.

I guess the draft version of Rolo or closest type seems to be Jaxson Hayes but I really don’t wanna spend a high pick on a center, perhaps that’s just me.

Bruno Fernando might be the only big worth drafting in the lottery. He’s getting a lot of good buzz and has a good skill set according to what I’m reading.

Ya I’ve seen him shoot up the boards and Hazer and KG seem to like this guy. I personally don’t love his mobility. I dunno, I’m not loving any centers that are coming out. Not enough to spend a lotto pick on them. It’ll be interesting how Schlenk views this. We might need to trade for a center at some point if he doesn’t love any centers in the draft or free agency.

[King Ken]

Can Lloyd further develop Robin’s defensive skills?He worked with Embiid in Philly. Maybe add some tools to the old box?

Embiid added so much value in terms of his mobility around the paint and his offensive pressure he puts on teams that you can't box his impact on a role player. I call it the Kevin Love effect. Some say Love isn't a good defender but he puts so much offensive pressure on a defense that it gives him more defensive freedom due to it. He wears on defensive players slowing down their offense in the process. Embiid does that too.

For someone like Lopez, they need to already be around a good cast to really show their quality and impact. I wouldn't be surprised if Lopez got like 2-3 mil at most from a contender

Agree with much of this except that Rolo needs to be around a good cast of defenders. I actually think if he just played his usual hustle defense that it would allow everyone else like Collins to play more of the “Kevin Love effect” style D for us. Aka Defensive freedom as you stated to roam around and make plays. Because Collins is most definitely a guy that come come from the weak side and block a shot or two.

Collins isn't that type of offensive player that Love was all around as is Embiid. Collins is a movement specialist so his running and movement is more of how he gets it done. Space is your worst enemy v. Collins

While Love and Embiid is just a load to deal with. Those guys wear on their opponents.

[Spud2nique]

Embiid added so much value in terms of his mobility around the paint and his offensive pressure he puts on teams that you can't box his impact on a role player. I call it the Kevin Love effect. Some say Love isn't a good defender but he puts so much offensive pressure on a defense that it gives him more defensive freedom due to it. He wears on defensive players slowing down their offense in the process. Embiid does that too.

For someone like Lopez, they need to already be around a good cast to really show their quality and impact. I wouldn't be surprised if Lopez got like 2-3 mil at most from a contender

Agree with much of this except that Rolo needs to be around a good cast of defenders. I actually think if he just played his usual hustle defense that it would allow everyone else like Collins to play more of the “Kevin Love effect” style D for us. Aka Defensive freedom as you stated to roam around and make plays. Because Collins is most definitely a guy that come come from the weak side and block a shot or two.

Collins isn't that type of offensive player that Love was all around as is Embiid. Collins is a movement specialist so his running and movement is more of how he gets it done. Space is your worst enemy v. Collins

While Love and Embiid is just a load to deal with. Those guys wear on their opponents.

And Collins doesn’t wear on his opponent? Collins can’t be an easy cover or individual defensive assignment for anyone.

I would say Embiid is a tough cover than Collins but not Love. Love grinds his man down on a perimeter post and tends to fade to the baseline for a fade-away....that’s easier to cover than Collins imo.

[King Ken]

Agree with much of this except that Rolo needs to be around a good cast of defenders. I actually think if he just played his usual hustle defense that it would allow everyone else like Collins to play more of the “Kevin Love effect” style D for us. Aka Defensive freedom as you stated to roam around and make plays. Because Collins is most definitely a guy that come come from the weak side and block a shot or two.

Collins isn't that type of offensive player that Love was all around as is Embiid. Collins is a movement specialist so his running and movement is more of how he gets it done. Space is your worst enemy v. Collins

While Love and Embiid is just a load to deal with. Those guys wear on their opponents.

And Collins doesn’t wear on his opponent? Collins can’t be an easy cover or individual defensive assignment for anyone.

I would say Embiid is a tough cover than Collins but not Love. Love grinds his man down on a perimeter post and tends to fade to the baseline for a fade-away....that’s easier to cover than Collins imo.

He does as a movement player but it's not the same thing as prime Love or Embiid.

[Spud2nique]

Collins isn't that type of offensive player that Love was all around as is Embiid. Collins is a movement specialist so his running and movement is more of how he gets it done. Space is your worst enemy v. Collins

While Love and Embiid is just a load to deal with. Those guys wear on their opponents.

And Collins doesn’t wear on his opponent? Collins can’t be an easy cover or individual defensive assignment for anyone.

I would say Embiid is a tough cover than Collins but not Love. Love grinds his man down on a perimeter post and tends to fade to the baseline for a fade-away....that’s easier to cover than Collins imo.

He does as a movement player but it's not the same thing as prime Love or Embiid.

So if your an nba defender you’d rather check Collins over Love?

Maybe I’m bias, I’d check Love all day.

[King Ken]

And Collins doesn’t wear on his opponent? Collins can’t be an easy cover or individual defensive assignment for anyone.

I would say Embiid is a tough cover than Collins but not Love. Love grinds his man down on a perimeter post and tends to fade to the baseline for a fade-away....that’s easier to cover than Collins imo.

He does as a movement player but it's not the same thing as prime Love or Embiid.

So if your an nba defender you’d rather check Collins over Love?

Maybe I’m bias, I’d check Love all day.

Now, yes but prime Love, Collins