Admittedly, I’ve been very bullish on him the last few weeks. But if you watch him play, the style reminds me of Kawhi. It wouldn’t surprise me to hear him say that’s who he models his game after.Spud2nique wrote:EazyRoc wrote:While I haven’t watched a lot of Isaacs, I don’t know how you believe he could show more defensively or on the fast break. It’s all in the tape IMO.atlantabbq99 wrote:
I like Hunter's stats, but when I watch him on film, he remind me of Jonathan Isaac. So I have mixed feelings on the guy. I wish he could show us more on defense or on the fast break like Demare Carroll.
The draft is really weak, so he could be an ok top 10 pick, but I hope he can develop more than just an 'okay starter', which is what I have him pegged at.
He’s a very very advanced team defender at 20(ish) and a good, disciplined man defender. He doesn’t gamble a lot and stays within the coaches system, so he doesn’t have the steals/blocks to reflect his level of ability right now as a defender. He’s solid on the break with a good enough handle and solid athleticism combined with elite length. I think he needs to learn how to get his body into defenders to shield and create enough space with his superior length to get shots off around the basket. He’s also overly reliant on right hand finishes and goes to that even when his left hand would give him a better chance to get his shot off around the basket.
High floor, high ceiling guy. When I watch him play offensively he reminds a lot of Kawhi Now in where/how he gets his shots.
Ultimately though, I think this draft has just as much talent as the last draft if not more. If you had a guy like Romeo Langford in last years draft..he’d be a top 5 lock last year.
Wow Kawhi?that’s high praise.
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I view Thybulle as a replacement for Bembry if someone offers him a crazy contract. 2nd rd picks may be more valuable than anticipated. Bembry and Thybulle on the 2nd unit would be very fun to see I must admit.
Crazy Bill Walton said nearly all NBA scouts were at the UCLA-Oregon game. His stanning for everything Pac-10 is beyond extra so he could be exaggerating.
I'm pretty sold on Rui with the Mavs pick. I do consider him a combo forward in the league by 75% pf to 25% sf give or take 10%. He has the mid range and ft shot down which no other player really has anymore. Very Al like when he was elite at it with the Hawks.
Crazy Bill Walton said nearly all NBA scouts were at the UCLA-Oregon game. His stanning for everything Pac-10 is beyond extra so he could be exaggerating.
I'm pretty sold on Rui with the Mavs pick. I do consider him a combo forward in the league by 75% pf to 25% sf give or take 10%. He has the mid range and ft shot down which no other player really has anymore. Very Al like when he was elite at it with the Hawks.
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I know I'm in the minority, but I still see RJ as the best talent in this draft.
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^^^ I'm coming around on Barrett. He's still a bit of a ball hog, but he's a very talented scorer. Cam is the one I'd be wary of. I love the "idea" of Cam with his physical profile and potential, but that should've translated to something much more than what I've seen so far at the college level. I'm at the point where I would consider KZ Okpala and maybe even Deandre Hunter over him. Hunter at #5 still seems like a reach as of right now though. But if Barrett is available from #2 and below for the Hawks, you have to get him.
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hawkmanreturns wrote:^^^ I'm coming around on Barrett. He's still a bit of a ball hog, but he's a very talented scorer. Cam is the one I'd be wary of. I love the "idea" of Cam with his physical profile and potential, but that should've translated to something much more than what I've seen so far at the college level. I'm at the point where I would consider KZ Okpala and maybe even Deandre Hunter over him. Hunter at #5 still seems like a reach as of right now though. But if Barrett is available from #2 and below for the Hawks, you have to get him.
RJ is a talent no doubt and most definitely the 2nd player picked. Initially I thought it can’t possibly work with Trae at the helm, but having a small forward in RJ who possesses vision and the rest of the tools he brings could elevate us to another level. I’d take Zion and Barrett 1,2.
I’m very very low on Morant. Seriously people say he’s like Westbrook...I see and AND 1 type of player. Knicks should be worried they don’t bite on a guy like this...otherwise they are setting themselves back another 3-5 years.
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hawkmanreturns wrote:^^^ I'm coming around on Barrett. He's still a bit of a ball hog, but he's a very talented scorer. Cam is the one I'd be wary of. I love the "idea" of Cam with his physical profile and potential, but that should've translated to something much more than what I've seen so far at the college level. I'm at the point where I would consider KZ Okpala and maybe even Deandre Hunter over him. Hunter at #5 still seems like a reach as of right now though. But if Barrett is available from #2 and below for the Hawks, you have to get him.
That’s the number 1 thing for me. Is RJ going to be able to stifle his need to be a ball hog? Can he play effectively off the ball? If the answer is yes, then I definitely want a shot at him. Again, he’s not tailor made for how our team is being built at the moment but at the same time if you have the 2nd pick, it would be hard to pass up on him.
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The kitty cat is so far out of the bag on Hachimura to the point in which he might not even be available at the assumed #5 point. Even if he were to be available with the Dallas pick, I know I know, don't draft for need, but his game screams mostly PF. You either draft him if you think Collins can make center work 50% of the time (and this looks like a no even if he improves defensively) or if you think Rui can play well enough at SF to make it more 50/50 instead of 75/25 PF/SF.
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^Or if you aren't convinced Collins is definitely a long term fixture here:
NBC Sports -- ChicagoOne player who has caught my attention in recent weeks is Gonzaga big man Rui Hachimura. Even though he’s more of a traditional power forward at 6-foot-8, Hachimura showed the ability to put the ball on the floor and drive past defenders in recent games for the Zags, and for the season, he’s averaging just over 20 points a game, shooting 60 percent from the field and 42 percent from the three-point line.
With so many of the preseason lottery prospects struggling to find consistency, Hachimura is climbing up draft boards with steady production for the nation’s second ranked team.
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Here we go...last year it was getting rid of Prince and now Collins. Next year you prolly trying to get rid of Trae lol. Agendas people.
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Fansided -- Memphis GrizzliesUnder The Radar Mid-Major NBA Draft Prospects
Brandon Clarke
Brandon Clarke is a 6’8″ forward and plays for a national championship contender in the Gonzaga Bulldogs. He isn’t going to take over a game for his team but he gets it done on both ends of the floor and has the tools needed to be a good role playing big in this league.
This is actually his first season at Gonzaga after transferring over from San Jose State. He is averaging 16.7 points, 8.3 rebounds, and 3.1 blocks per game.
The most impressive stat surrounding him is his nation-leading 69.2% shooting from the field. He may need to develop a three-point shot to be a successful pro but he has the tools to warrant consideration with a second-round pick.
In today’s NBA a 6’8″ power forward isn’t really considered undersized anymore. He isn’t the most exciting player but he contributes every night and does so on both ends of the floor.Spoiler:
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Am I crazy for wanting the Hawks to select Bol Bol with their Dallas pick??? While, I do realize picking him would be pretty risky due to his health concerns but he could end up providing the Hawks a pretty good defensive presence on the inside and give them a little bit of offense (Who can guard those outside shots?/NOT that I would like to see him making a regular habit of attempting too many threes!) as well! Definitely, A gamble but who knows he could end up being the Hawks next Tree Rollins or Dikembo Mutumbo???
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I would love to get Barrett, but only as a trade asset on draft night.
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pacehawk wrote:Am I crazy for wanting the Hawks to select Bol Bol with their Dallas pick??? While, I do realize picking him would be pretty risky due to his health concerns but he could end up providing the Hawks a pretty good defensive presence on the inside and give them a little bit of offense (Who can guard those outside shots?/NOT that I would like to see him making a regular habit of attempting too many threes!) as well! Definitely, A gamble but who knows he could end up being the Hawks next Tree Rollins or Dikembo Mutumbo???
I would love to get Bol with the Dallas pick, but I think when Bol goes on some personal workouts, his stock is going to jump up from later lottery to top 5, just like Kristap did when he was in the draft.
I have a feeling that the personal workouts are going to show that Bol is on the same level that Kristap and Gasol were when they were rookie prospects.
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Jamaaliver wrote:Fansided -- Memphis GrizzliesUnder The Radar Mid-Major NBA Draft Prospects
Brandon Clarke
Brandon Clarke is a 6’8″ forward and plays for a national championship contender in the Gonzaga Bulldogs. He isn’t going to take over a game for his team but he gets it done on both ends of the floor and has the tools needed to be a good role playing big in this league.
This is actually his first season at Gonzaga after transferring over from San Jose State. He is averaging 16.7 points, 8.3 rebounds, and 3.1 blocks per game.
The most impressive stat surrounding him is his nation-leading 69.2% shooting from the field. He may need to develop a three-point shot to be a successful pro but he has the tools to warrant consideration with a second-round pick.
In today’s NBA a 6’8″ power forward isn’t really considered undersized anymore. He isn’t the most exciting player but he contributes every night and does so on both ends of the floor.Spoiler:
He is not Draymond, but he is the closest thing to Draymond in this year's draft. He has a very very low ceiling but his work ethic will give him a 10 year NBA career. I would be very pleased if he fell to the Hawks in the 2nd round.
I think his middle would be Kenneth Faried
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Hunter doesn't have the athletic ability to be Leonard to me
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atlantabbq99 wrote:pacehawk wrote:Am I crazy for wanting the Hawks to select Bol Bol with their Dallas pick??? While, I do realize picking him would be pretty risky due to his health concerns but he could end up providing the Hawks a pretty good defensive presence on the inside and give them a little bit of offense (Who can guard those outside shots?/NOT that I would like to see him making a regular habit of attempting too many threes!) as well! Definitely, A gamble but who knows he could end up being the Hawks next Tree Rollins or Dikembo Mutumbo???
I would love to get Bol with the Dallas pick, but I think when Bol goes on some personal workouts, his stock is going to jump up from later lottery to top 5, just like Kristap did when he was in the draft.
I have a feeling that the personal workouts are going to show that Bol is on the same level that Kristap and Gasol were when they were rookie prospects.
So, Would you consider picking Bol Bol at #5 (I am assuming that is where the Hawks will be drafting with their 1st pick) if the Hawks feel pretty comfortable with his Health Reports and he does have good personal workouts? Personally, I would especially since I don’t know if there is going to be a Huge difference talent wise from the Hawks #5 pick or their Dallas pick ((Which seems right now could be anywhere from 7-16?). IF, The Hawks did go the Bol Bol route with the 5th pick then then one of the following Wings (Jarrrett Culver, Cameron Reddish, Rui Hachimura, KZ Okpala, Sekou Doumbouya, etc) should still be available to the Hawks with their Dallas pick. BUT, IF, Somehow R.J. Barrett is available at #5 I would definitely like to seethe Hawks select him!
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pacehawk wrote:atlantabbq99 wrote:pacehawk wrote:Am I crazy for wanting the Hawks to select Bol Bol with their Dallas pick??? While, I do realize picking him would be pretty risky due to his health concerns but he could end up providing the Hawks a pretty good defensive presence on the inside and give them a little bit of offense (Who can guard those outside shots?/NOT that I would like to see him making a regular habit of attempting too many threes!) as well! Definitely, A gamble but who knows he could end up being the Hawks next Tree Rollins or Dikembo Mutumbo???
I would love to get Bol with the Dallas pick, but I think when Bol goes on some personal workouts, his stock is going to jump up from later lottery to top 5, just like Kristap did when he was in the draft.
I have a feeling that the personal workouts are going to show that Bol is on the same level that Kristap and Gasol were when they were rookie prospects.
So, Would you consider picking Bol Bol at #5 (I am assuming that is where the Hawks will be drafting with their 1st pick) if the Hawks feel pretty comfortable with his Health Reports and he does have good personal workouts? Personally, I would especially since I don’t know if there is going to be a Huge difference talent wise from the Hawks #5 pick or their Dallas pick ((Which seems right now could be anywhere from 7-16?). IF, The Hawks did go the Bol Bol route with the 5th pick then then one of the following Wings (Jarrrett Culver, Cameron Reddish, Rui Hachimura, KZ Okpala, Sekou Doumbouya, etc) should still be available to the Hawks with their Dallas pick. BUT, IF, Somehow R.J. Barrett is available at #5 I would definitely like to seethe Hawks select him!
With the proper combine numbers, personal workouts, and health report, I have no problem with #5 for Bol. He just needs to wow people like Kristap did.
before the personal workouts, Kristap was seen as #10 or late lottery, then after the workouts, a few mock drafts put him as high as #2. Same thing with Pau Gasol. Pau was ranked #8 in most mock drafts, but then ended up getting selected #2.
And remember, before the foot sprain, Bol was putting up similar numbers and advance stats that Ayton did when was in AZ.
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King Ken wrote:Hunter doesn't have the athletic ability to be Leonard to me
He’s every bit the athlete Kawhi is.
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Let’s not forget that Kawhi wasn’t a world beater as a prospect. Definitely wasn’t as impactful as a college player at SDSU.
https://www.nbadraft.net/players/kawhi-leonard
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