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kg01 wrote:I'm not super high on Hunter. Seems really solid. Safe. He'd be the type of guy that'd be perfect for our Millsap-Teague teams I presume we're looking for more high-ceiling guys at the moment. Could we trade down to like 10-12 for him?
Jamaaliver wrote:kg01 wrote:I'm not super high on Hunter. Seems really solid. Safe. He'd be the type of guy that'd be perfect for our Millsap-Teague teams I presume we're looking for more high-ceiling guys at the moment. Could we trade down to like 10-12 for him?
I'm with you there.
In most mocks I've seen, he falls between 5-10. I think could nab him with the Mavs pick...should that convey.
kg01 wrote:Jamaaliver wrote:kg01 wrote:I'm not super high on Hunter. Seems really solid. Safe. He'd be the type of guy that'd be perfect for our Millsap-Teague teams I presume we're looking for more high-ceiling guys at the moment. Could we trade down to like 10-12 for him?
I'm with you there.
In most mocks I've seen, he falls between 5-10. I think could nab him with the Mavs pick...should that convey.
I imagine some other high-potential guys could rise and push Hunter down a bit on teams' boards.
Bleacher ReportGrading Every Top 2019 NBA Draft Prospect in Key Categories
Jarrett Culver (Texas Tech, SG, Sophomore)
Scoring: B+
Key stat: 23.1 points per 40 minutes, 49.9 FG%
From role player to lead scorer, Jarrett Culver has risen into the top-10 conversation by improving and expanding his game off the dribble. He's averaging 18.0 points, and he ranks in the 79th percentile as a pick-and-roll ball-handler (scoring only) and 85th percentile out of isolation. Despite lacking explosiveness, he's converting 60.9 percent of his shots at the rim, although his floater touch (5-of-15) could use work. Culver needs to tighten up his pull-up, but his consistent flashes and production suggest his arrow is pointing up.
Shooting: B
Key stat: 56-of-152 jump shots in the half court (36.8 percent)
Culver has taken a step as a mid-range scorer and shooter, converting at least 41.0 percent on both short and medium jumpers. His distance shooting hasn't progressed. With a slow, high-arcing shot, he's down to 1.7 three-point makes per 40 minutes on 34.3 percent shooting. His 68.1 percent free-throw mark doesn't help ease any concerns, either. Still, the eye test detects enough shot-making skill. Shooting won't be the reason why teams pass on Culver.
Playmaking: B
Key Stat: 26.7 assist percentage
Playing on the ball more often as a sophomore, Culver has had the reps to develop as a facilitator. He's nearly doubled his assist rate to 26.7 percent from 13.7 percent. Of his 65 combined passes out of pick-and-rolls and isolation, 34 have been converted into baskets. Culver lacks the blow-by, breakdown speed to work as an NBA point guard, but he's flashed secondary playmaking potential from the wing.
Defense: B+
Key stat: 1.9 stocks per 40 minutes (steals and blocks)
Culver has the quickness and length to adequately guard both backcourt positions. However, he won't be strong enough to defend most NBA wings. Physical opponents can play through Culver. With that said, he's still a positive defensive link for his perimeter coverage and reads.
Bleacher Report2019 NBA Draft: Every Projected Top Pick's Biggest Strength, Weakness
De'Andre Hunter (Virginia, SF/PF, Sophomore)
Strengths: Defensive versatility/potential
Pick-and-roll defense: 0.30 PPP (99th percentile), Around basket defense: 0.643 PPP (90th percentile), Spot-up defense: 33.8 percent opponent FG
Listed at 6'7", 225 pounds, De'Andre Hunter's physical profile pops under the NBA scouting scope. His strength, length and quickness are most appealing for defensive purposes.
He should be highly switchable, with enough strength to body bigs and the quickness to slide and/or recover. Hunter grades as one of the nation's premier pick-and-roll defenders for its No. 3 overall defense, per KenPom.com.
Physical abilities side, he demonstrates strong awareness in terms of reacting and reading plays.
His defensive outlook ultimately hints at Hunter being one of the lower-risk lottery prospects.
Weakness: Scoring upside
Three-pointers made: 1.3 per 40 minutes, Jump shot off dribble: 36.8 percent
While tough defense props up his floor, it's worth wondering about his scoring upside, given his rudimentary skill set and limited sample size of shot-making.
Hunter lacks creativity inside the arc, often leaning on straight-line drives or post-ups he's unlikely to receive in an NBA offense. The scouting report also shows he's more effective going right (7-of-12) out of isolation compared to left (7-of-21).
And though accurate from three (45.5 percent), he doesn't shoot many (2.8 per 40 minutes) with a line-drive jumper that may need adjusting.
With the eye test raising questions about his scoring creativity, teams will be thinking three-and-D with Hunter, adding more pressure to his development as a shooter.
Jamaaliver wrote:So while the offense has improved, marginally, the defense has cratered.
Is it time to draft some defenders?
atlantabbq99 wrote:If it happens, would you trade RJ Barrett for Wendell Carter?
Spud2nique wrote:kg01 wrote:I'm not super high on Hunter. Seems really solid. Safe. He'd be the type of guy that'd be perfect for our Millsap-Teague teams I presume we're looking for more high-ceiling guys at the moment. Could we trade down to like 10-12 for him?
Won’t last past the 9th pick...right around where the Mavs pick SHOULD fall.
Atlhawks09 wrote:atlantabbq99 wrote:If it happens, would you trade RJ Barrett for Wendell Carter?
No, Carter doesn’t have that value.
atlantabbq99 wrote:If it happens, would you trade RJ Barrett for Wendell Carter?
Hazer wrote:personanongrata wrote:CP War Hawks wrote:KL was 6-6 no shoes, 227 and 5.5% bf. He had elite length for a pf with a 7-3 wingspan and 8-10 so as a wing that makes him a top defender. Those are the specs I look with at for certain prospects.
For example I think Rui will come in at 6-7 no shoes, 230 with 6.5% bf. Along with 7-2 wingspan, 8-11 reach. Just something to consider overall.
Lastly, the Hawks will not pick 5. It's nearly mathematically impossible. NYK and Pho have the overwhelming odds to land the 5 pick with the two worse records. I wish mocks would reflect this. We are either picking top 4 or more likely 7th and then 6th.
Thank you for mentioning that about picking 5th. You may need to explain that to others on the board who clearly don't understand the lottery.
I believe the odds of the 5th worst team ending up picking 5th is only 2.2%. Much more likely to pick top 4 than staying in 5th.
Jamaaliver wrote:atlantabbq99 wrote:If it happens, would you trade RJ Barrett for Wendell Carter?
You have piqued my interest.
It'd be hard to trade RJ Barrett straight up for him. RJ is simply a more impactful player.
But I think you can consider dangling that Mavs pick for him. Wendell is a perfect fit next to Collins and would likely still be a top-10 selection in this deeper draft.
NOTE: Carter's agility and lateral speed actually measured out higher than expected during pre-draft scouting and at Summer league.Spoiler:
Jamaaliver wrote:You have piqued my interest.
Why am I not surprised? kg01 wrote:Jamaaliver wrote:You have piqued my interest.
Jamaaliver wrote:kg01 wrote:Jamaaliver wrote:You have piqued my interest.
Because I really like Wendell Carter and he was my favorite prospect last summer?
Do I win the prize?
Jamaaliver wrote:atlantabbq99 wrote:If it happens, would you trade RJ Barrett for Wendell Carter?
You have piqued my interest.
It'd be hard to trade RJ Barrett straight up for him. RJ is simply a more impactful player.
But I think you can consider dangling that Mavs pick for him. Wendell is a perfect fit next to Collins and would likely still be a top-10 selection in this deeper draft.
NOTE: Carter's agility and lateral speed actually measured out higher than expected during pre-draft scouting and at Summer league.Spoiler:
CBS Sports2019 NBA Mock Draft: Zion Williamson still an easy pick to take at No. 1 even after knee injury
5. Hawks
Cam Reddish | Duke | Fr | SF | 6-8
The Hawks have a core to build around with John Collins, Trae Young and Taurean Prince, and adding Cam Reddish would be yet another promising prospect to the process. Reddish has shown flashes of being a great playmaker -- he rates in the top 4 percent according to Synergy as a pick-and-roll ball handler, scoring 61 percent of the time -- and his shot mechanics are tremendous. Though he's been streaky as both a player and shooter at times this season for Duke, which hasn't been the case of late with three 22+ point outings in his last five games, his upside as a secondary playmaker would be too enticing for Atlanta to pass on here at No. 5 -- if he's still on the board.
9. Hawks
Pick via Dallas:
Jarrett Culver | Texas Tech | Soph | SG | 6-6
Is there such thing as too many capable off-ball guards? (Answer: No.) Even with selecting Cam Reddish early, Jarrett Culver's a player Atlanta would be hard-pressed to pass on because he does things that Reddish can't. At 6-6, Culver is capable of playing either at shooting guard or at the wing, and his defensive versatility stretches through several positions. In the NBA, where versatility and switchability is at a premium, Culver brings excellent value at No. 9 if he's still on the board.
