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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3 

Post#1321 » by jayu70 » Sun Feb 6, 2022 11:29 pm

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Andrew McCeltic wrote:Mention that Atlanta (along with Dallas, LAC, Milwaukee) has interest in Schroder and Boston needs a backup pg or shooter coming back..

That would be surprising seeing Schroeder as a target for Atlanta. I don't see a backup PG or shooter available on the Hawks roster for Dennis.


Neither do I, that's why I mentioned it.. the only possibility would be Huerter into Boston's TPE and Schroder and more going back to Atlanta & I don't understand that for either team

Yep, doesn't make sense for the Hawks.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3 

Post#1322 » by sixers4real » Tue Feb 8, 2022 11:04 am

Would you guys do a Simmons, Harris, Milton for Collins, Williams, Gallo, Wright?

G - Simmons/Milton
G - Young/Bogdanovic
F - Hunter/Huerter
F - Harris/Simmons
C- Capela/Okungwu
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3 

Post#1323 » by jayu70 » Tue Feb 8, 2022 3:00 pm

sixers4real wrote:Would you guys do a Simmons, Harris, Milton for Collins, Williams, Gallo, Wright?

G - Simmons/Milton
G - Young/Bogdanovic
F - Hunter/Huerter
F - Harris/Simmons
C- Capela/Okungwu

Me personally:
1. I have no interest in Tobias Harris at $37 million
2. I don't trust that Simmons will embrace his 2nd banana role here in Atlanta which means he'll be asking for a trade soon enough leaving us holding the Harris bag.
3. The Capela/Simmons pairing is problematic

Edit: Hawks already declined when Harris was added to any Simmons deal.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3 

Post#1324 » by GutUNC » Tue Feb 8, 2022 3:30 pm

jayu70 wrote:
sixers4real wrote:Would you guys do a Simmons, Harris, Milton for Collins, Williams, Gallo, Wright?

G - Simmons/Milton
G - Young/Bogdanovic
F - Hunter/Huerter
F - Harris/Simmons
C- Capela/Okungwu

Me personally:
1. I have no interest in Tobias Harris at $37 million
2. I don't trust that Simmons will embrace his 2nd banana role here in Atlanta which means he'll be asking for a trade soon enough leaving us holding the Harris bag.
3. The Capela/Simmons pairing is problematic

Edit: Hawks already declined when Harris was added to any Simmons deal.


Not to disagree with your overall premise, but if anything Simmons would seem to enjoy being the 2nd banana since through leaks he complained about having to develop his game in a playoff environment unlike other #1 picks. It's not like he's a guy who's demanding a certain number of shots or something.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3 

Post#1325 » by raleigh » Tue Feb 8, 2022 3:58 pm

Well, so much for my Bogi -for- Hart idea.
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Post#1326 » by jayu70 » Tue Feb 8, 2022 8:23 pm

Sometimes I wonder about Kirschner - it what universe does Marcus Smart 'create his own shot? lolololol. smh.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3 

Post#1327 » by D21 » Tue Feb 8, 2022 10:02 pm

jayu70 wrote:Sometimes I wonder about Kirschner - it what universe does Marcus Smart 'create his own shot? lolololol. smh.
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He wants Smart for Bogi, Johnson and 2 1st :o
In what kind of world do you trade all of that for Smart?

It looks like he wants to see ATL trading at any price, for what ? Having more things to talk about ?
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Post#1328 » by jayu70 » Tue Feb 8, 2022 10:04 pm

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jayu70 wrote:Sometimes I wonder about Kirschner - it what universe does Marcus Smart 'create his own shot? lolololol. smh.
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He wants Smart for Bogi, Johnson and 2 1st :o
In what kind of world do you trade all of that for Smart?

It looks like he wants to see ATL trading at any price, for what ? Having more things to talk about ?
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Post#1329 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Feb 9, 2022 6:12 pm

kg01 wrote:Oh @jamallo, still holdin' out hope for Simmons-to-ATL. Keep the faith, bro, but it's looking bleak.

We should start looking for a plan B. I'm thinking Brogdon in the offseason? I don't love it but can't think of anything else.


Malcolm would be a solid consolation prize.

Ho about Bogdan Bogdanovic and the Hornets pick for Mal Brogdon. Who says no?

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Having acquired Tyrese Haliburton from the Sacramento Kings, the Indiana Pacers might be willing to deal Malcolm Brogdon this summer, according to HoopsHype's Michael Scotto.

Scotto reported the belief outside Indiana is that the Pacers will move Malcolm Brogdon after having positioned Haliburton as the future of their backcourt.

In October, Brogdon signed a two-year, $45 million extension that will go into effect with the 2023-24 season. Because that new contract precludes Indiana from trading him for six months, he won't be going anywhere before Thursday's NBA trade deadline.

The Pacers presumably thought that Brogdon would be a long-term piece of their rotation when they handed him that extension. The 29-year-old has performed well in his three seasons with Indiana, averaging 18.8 points, 5.1 rebounds and 6.3 assists.

The 2016-17 Rookie of the Year said on The JJ Redick Podcast in June 2020 (h/t Ethan Sears of the Indianapolis Star) he enjoyed playing with the Pacers because he was operating at the point.

"It allows me to play in my role, in my position and lead," he said. "I think the point guard has to be if not the leader, has to be one of the biggest leaders on your team. He has to be vocal. He has to demand respect.

"And that’s what I feel like I bring to the game."

Brogdon was frequently used as a 2-guard with the Milwaukee Bucks, so it's a position with which he's familiar. Whether he'd be happy to play off the ball while Haliburton Trae runs the offense is another question.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3 

Post#1330 » by kg01 » Wed Feb 9, 2022 6:27 pm

D21 wrote:
jayu70 wrote:Sometimes I wonder about Kirschner - it what universe does Marcus Smart 'create his own shot? lolololol. smh.
Read on Twitter
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He wants Smart for Bogi, Johnson and 2 1st :o
In what kind of world do you trade all of that for Smart?

It looks like he wants to see ATL trading at any price, for what ? Having more things to talk about ?


Galdayum. Is he sure the Celtics don't want Collins too while he's trading off everything not nailed down? Sheesh
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3 

Post#1331 » by jayu70 » Wed Feb 9, 2022 6:50 pm

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kg01 wrote:Oh @jamallo, still holdin' out hope for Simmons-to-ATL. Keep the faith, bro, but it's looking bleak.

We should start looking for a plan B. I'm thinking Brogdon in the offseason? I don't love it but can't think of anything else.


Malcolm would be a solid consolation prize.

Ho about Bogdan Bogdanovic and the Hornets pick for Mal Brogdon. Who says no?


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Having acquired Tyrese Haliburton from the Sacramento Kings, the Indiana Pacers might be willing to deal Malcolm Brogdon this summer, according to HoopsHype's Michael Scotto.

Scotto reported the belief outside Indiana is that the Pacers will move Malcolm Brogdon after having positioned Haliburton as the future of their backcourt.

In October, Brogdon signed a two-year, $45 million extension that will go into effect with the 2023-24 season. Because that new contract precludes Indiana from trading him for six months, he won't be going anywhere before Thursday's NBA trade deadline.

The Pacers presumably thought that Brogdon would be a long-term piece of their rotation when they handed him that extension. The 29-year-old has performed well in his three seasons with Indiana, averaging 18.8 points, 5.1 rebounds and 6.3 assists.

The 2016-17 Rookie of the Year said on The JJ Redick Podcast in June 2020 (h/t Ethan Sears of the Indianapolis Star) he enjoyed playing with the Pacers because he was operating at the point.

"It allows me to play in my role, in my position and lead," he said. "I think the point guard has to be if not the leader, has to be one of the biggest leaders on your team. He has to be vocal. He has to demand respect.

"And that’s what I feel like I bring to the game."

Brogdon was frequently used as a 2-guard with the Milwaukee Bucks, so it's a position with which he's familiar. Whether he'd be happy to play off the ball while Haliburton Trae runs the offense is another question.
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Brogdon cannot be traded until the offseason since, he like Capela signed an extension this past offseason.
I like Brogdon, but he seems to be injured all the time (not like Bogi isn't too),
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3 

Post#1332 » by CP War Hawks » Wed Feb 9, 2022 8:34 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
kg01 wrote:Oh @jamallo, still holdin' out hope for Simmons-to-ATL. Keep the faith, bro, but it's looking bleak.

We should start looking for a plan B. I'm thinking Brogdon in the offseason? I don't love it but can't think of anything else.


Malcolm would be a solid consolation prize.

Ho about Bogdan Bogdanovic and the Hornets pick for Mal Brogdon. Who says no?

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Having acquired Tyrese Haliburton from the Sacramento Kings, the Indiana Pacers might be willing to deal Malcolm Brogdon this summer, according to HoopsHype's Michael Scotto.

Scotto reported the belief outside Indiana is that the Pacers will move Malcolm Brogdon after having positioned Haliburton as the future of their backcourt.

In October, Brogdon signed a two-year, $45 million extension that will go into effect with the 2023-24 season. Because that new contract precludes Indiana from trading him for six months, he won't be going anywhere before Thursday's NBA trade deadline.

The Pacers presumably thought that Brogdon would be a long-term piece of their rotation when they handed him that extension. The 29-year-old has performed well in his three seasons with Indiana, averaging 18.8 points, 5.1 rebounds and 6.3 assists.

The 2016-17 Rookie of the Year said on The JJ Redick Podcast in June 2020 (h/t Ethan Sears of the Indianapolis Star) he enjoyed playing with the Pacers because he was operating at the point.

"It allows me to play in my role, in my position and lead," he said. "I think the point guard has to be if not the leader, has to be one of the biggest leaders on your team. He has to be vocal. He has to demand respect.

"And that’s what I feel like I bring to the game."

Brogdon was frequently used as a 2-guard with the Milwaukee Bucks, so it's a position with which he's familiar. Whether he'd be happy to play off the ball while Haliburton Trae runs the offense is another question.
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It'll probably take Huerter and a couple of 1sts. Pacers will have an endless amount of suitors.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3 

Post#1333 » by D21 » Thu Feb 10, 2022 4:46 am

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Jamaaliver wrote:
kg01 wrote:Oh @jamallo, still holdin' out hope for Simmons-to-ATL. Keep the faith, bro, but it's looking bleak.

We should start looking for a plan B. I'm thinking Brogdon in the offseason? I don't love it but can't think of anything else.


Malcolm would be a solid consolation prize.

Ho about Bogdan Bogdanovic and the Hornets pick for Mal Brogdon. Who says no?

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Having acquired Tyrese Haliburton from the Sacramento Kings, the Indiana Pacers might be willing to deal Malcolm Brogdon this summer, according to HoopsHype's Michael Scotto.

Scotto reported the belief outside Indiana is that the Pacers will move Malcolm Brogdon after having positioned Haliburton as the future of their backcourt.

In October, Brogdon signed a two-year, $45 million extension that will go into effect with the 2023-24 season. Because that new contract precludes Indiana from trading him for six months, he won't be going anywhere before Thursday's NBA trade deadline.

The Pacers presumably thought that Brogdon would be a long-term piece of their rotation when they handed him that extension. The 29-year-old has performed well in his three seasons with Indiana, averaging 18.8 points, 5.1 rebounds and 6.3 assists.

The 2016-17 Rookie of the Year said on The JJ Redick Podcast in June 2020 (h/t Ethan Sears of the Indianapolis Star) he enjoyed playing with the Pacers because he was operating at the point.

"It allows me to play in my role, in my position and lead," he said. "I think the point guard has to be if not the leader, has to be one of the biggest leaders on your team. He has to be vocal. He has to demand respect.

"And that’s what I feel like I bring to the game."

Brogdon was frequently used as a 2-guard with the Milwaukee Bucks, so it's a position with which he's familiar. Whether he'd be happy to play off the ball while Haliburton Trae runs the offense is another question.
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It'll probably take Huerter and a couple of 1sts. Pacers will have an endless amount of suitors.


He's playing 5 more minutes than Bogi, and takes 4 more shots per game, so with the same minutes/shots, Bogi would be only 1pt lower. The main difference is more assists, so he fits more to cover Trae when he's on the bench. Now, Bogi has shown last year that he can play PG and make the team win...

This difference make me having doubts about adding a first to Bogi, but even more doubts about adding two first to Huerter

Now, Brogdon is also the best Net rating of IND, at +7.1, which tends to show he's kind of a leader
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3 

Post#1334 » by tbhawksfan1 » Sun Feb 13, 2022 11:01 am

Alright guys and gals. I'm interested in the offseason. Hope that the Hawks get it together and make some kind of PO run this year, but things are looking rough.

I'm not going to propose a trade because we'll need to see who would be available this offseason. What I am interested in, is your thoughts on who we need to move to fix what's wrong. Hawks had some real bad luck early in the season, but that excuse ended weeks ago and things are still looking shaky. Who, what is the problem?

I'm going to go ahead and throw my two cents out there. I'm thinking about redoing the front-court and somehow finding an upgrade at SG.

Front court: I've been down on JC since he refused the first offer. I saw right then that he had a big head and over-valued his contribution. Nothing has happened since to change my mind. Capela is a nice C, but is not contributing as well as last season. His age and milage could become a thing sooner than later. I love OO and expect him to be a longterm piece.

SG: Bogs and Heurter have not been able to bring the play at SG that we need. Not good enough on D. No athleticism and not even enough consistent offense.

I would be looking for a trade with any/all of these guys to bring in more impactful starters. I REALLY wanted Sabonis. It's not going to be easy because we need young guys that are better than what we're sending out. I'll be paying close attention to trades this offseason.

Have to admit that Hunter is worrying me lately too. Not ready to give up on him, but sure hope that he can improve on the junk he's been putting out there recently
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3 

Post#1335 » by HMFFL » Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:51 pm

If the Lakers make Anthony Davis available should we pursue him? We may have the pieces and future picks to make a trade happened.

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Post#1336 » by D21 » Fri Feb 18, 2022 5:35 am

HMFFL wrote:If the Lakers make Anthony Davis available should we pursue him? We may have the pieces and future picks to make a trade happened


It will cost a lot for someone that is almost injured every season. LAK got lucky they had a full roster two years ago while every teams were missing players. If they want to trade him, it will be only because of his injuries, so why another would want that?
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3 

Post#1337 » by DaddyCool19 » Sat Feb 19, 2022 12:49 pm

What about Gobert?
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3 

Post#1338 » by kg01 » Sat Feb 19, 2022 3:37 pm

D21 wrote:
HMFFL wrote:If the Lakers make Anthony Davis available should we pursue him? We may have the pieces and future picks to make a trade happened


It will cost a lot for someone that is almost injured every season. LAK got lucky they had a full roster two years ago while every teams were missing players. If they want to trade him, it will be only because of his injuries, so why another would want that?


I've been swatting the idea of acquiring AD all over the place. LAL got lucky the shutdown happened. The 4 months or w/e off is the only reason they were healthy enough to win in the bubble. What we're seeing this year is their new normal. Patching Lebron and AD up enough to simply be present while they lose games.

Them and NO (Zion) need to do the right thing and trade their guys while they still can.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3 

Post#1339 » by D21 » Sat Feb 19, 2022 3:47 pm

DaddyCool19 wrote:What about Gobert?


Before he was re-signed for 40M, I always thought that Schlenk, depending on how everything would work, has kept in mind that a combo of Clint+John would be a good start to build a trade for Gobert
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3 

Post#1340 » by Jamaaliver » Sun Feb 20, 2022 7:11 pm

I’d strongly consider Gobert or Anthony Davis for this team if the cost isn’t prohibitive.

It's not like Capela has been injury free the last few years either. Basically, what would you prefer next year:

50 games out of Anthony Davis, or
70 games out of Clint and John Collins.

Not really a right or wrong answer there. But if we could maintain Okongwu and Jalen Johnson, we’d have the ability to rest Davis A LOT during the regular season and keep him fresh for the playoff which to to offer more rest and less travel.

Note: If I had to choose, I’d likely keep J Collins over Capela. JC has shown steady improvement over the years and has largely been a great rep of the city and organization.

Capela has likely peaked and will be in his prime for only a couple more seasons.

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