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Post#1341 » by Spud2nique » Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:38 pm

I can't wait to miss Baze.....
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2) 

Post#1342 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:45 pm

Spud2nique wrote:I can't wait to miss Baze.....


Yeah...and it stinks.

Cause if KB was a bench player making $8 million per year...I'd love that dude. The same way I loved Zaza and Ivan Johnson and Greg 'Cadillac' Anderson.

But as a starter -- making one of the highest salaries in franchise history :nonono:

watching him play makes me want to punch a puppy.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2) 

Post#1343 » by Spud2nique » Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:11 pm

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Spud2nique wrote:I can't wait to miss Baze.....


Yeah...and it stinks.

Cause if KB was a bench player making $8 million per year...I'd love that dude. The same way I loved Zaza and Ivan Johnson and Greg 'Cadillac' Anderson.

But as a starter -- making one of the highest salaries in franchise history :nonono:

watching him play makes me want to punch a puppy.



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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2) 

Post#1344 » by MaceCase » Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:14 pm

kg01 wrote:Ahhh, I'm pulling out of this discussion since it feels like I'll have to make a case for Bazemore being a good player.

I can't have that on the official interwebs record. I don't have enough cool points to offset those words if I get quoted somewhere. :lol:

I'd still take him all day long over MKG. Whatever potential he had has long since been exhausted.

I get your point(s). The difference for me is that Kidd-Childress knows he sucks and will get out of the way of his teammates whereas Kenneth will say "climb on my shoulders, guys. I'm taking over!"
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2) 

Post#1345 » by kg01 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:20 pm

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kg01 wrote:Ahhh, I'm pulling out of this discussion since it feels like I'll have to make a case for Bazemore being a good player.

I can't have that on the official interwebs record. I don't have enough cool points to offset those words if I get quoted somewhere. :lol:

I'd still take him all day long over MKG. Whatever potential he had has long since been exhausted.

I get your point(s). The difference for me is that Kidd-Childress knows he sucks and will get out of the way of his teammates whereas Kenneth will say "climb on my shoulders, guys. I'm taking over!"


Totally agree. Kint will gladly go all "Get. On. My. Bak!" mode in games and start an epic string of turnovers and brick'd shots that'd make Ricky Davis blush. That aspect definitely goes in the 'pro' column for 8-Ball & MKG.

Also, what goes in Arbys' secret sauce? :) Been meaning to ask.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2) 

Post#1346 » by MaceCase » Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:24 pm

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kg01 wrote:Ahhh, I'm pulling out of this discussion since it feels like I'll have to make a case for Bazemore being a good player.

I can't have that on the official interwebs record. I don't have enough cool points to offset those words if I get quoted somewhere. :lol:

I'd still take him all day long over MKG. Whatever potential he had has long since been exhausted.

I get your point(s). The difference for me is that Kidd-Childress knows he sucks and will get out of the way of his teammates whereas Kenneth will say "climb on my shoulders, guys. I'm taking over!"


Totally agree. Kint will gladly go all "Get. On. My. Bak!" mode in games and start an epic string of turnovers and brick'd shots that'd make Ricky Davis blush. That aspect definitely goes in the 'pro' column for 8-Ball & MKG.

Also, what goes in Arbys' secret sauce? :) Been meaning to ask.

Ha! I've never been to or seen an Arby's in my life outside of a commercial. I asked a friend once to explain it to me and needless to say it sounds like I can count myself lucky I've never experienced it. I mean, a fast food restaurant built on selling deli meat? Okay...
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2) 

Post#1347 » by kg01 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:29 pm

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kg01 wrote:
MaceCase wrote:I get your point(s). The difference for me is that Kidd-Childress knows he sucks and will get out of the way of his teammates whereas Kenneth will say "climb on my shoulders, guys. I'm taking over!"


Totally agree. Kint will gladly go all "Get. On. My. Bak!" mode in games and start an epic string of turnovers and brick'd shots that'd make Ricky Davis blush. That aspect definitely goes in the 'pro' column for 8-Ball & MKG.

Also, what goes in Arbys' secret sauce? :) Been meaning to ask.

Ha! I've never been to or seen an Arby's in my life outside of a commercial. I asked a friend once to explain it to me and needless to say it sounds like I can count myself lucky I've never experienced it. I mean, a fast food restaurant built on selling deli meat? Okay...


I love roast beef and all but I've only eaten Arby's once in my life and that was only because I had an assignment in BumFunk, USA and it was that or some rando place that didn't look to be certified by any reputable health agency.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2) 

Post#1348 » by MaceCase » Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:45 pm

kg01 wrote:
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kg01 wrote:
Totally agree. Kint will gladly go all "Get. On. My. Bak!" mode in games and start an epic string of turnovers and brick'd shots that'd make Ricky Davis blush. That aspect definitely goes in the 'pro' column for 8-Ball & MKG.

Also, what goes in Arbys' secret sauce? :) Been meaning to ask.

Ha! I've never been to or seen an Arby's in my life outside of a commercial. I asked a friend once to explain it to me and needless to say it sounds like I can count myself lucky I've never experienced it. I mean, a fast food restaurant built on selling deli meat? Okay...


I love roast beef and all but I've only eaten Arby's once in my life and that was only because I had an assignment in BumFunk, USA and it was that or some rando place that didn't look to be certified by any reputable health agency.

C'mon, I'm sure Asstonia had some supermarket where a butcher could have sliced up some deli meat in front of you instead of stopping by a place where the cashier disappeared in the back to open up a pack of Lunchables for your "meal".
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2) 

Post#1349 » by Spud2nique » Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:25 pm

I'm hungry...
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2) 

Post#1350 » by kg01 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:23 pm

Spud2nique wrote:I'm hungry...


Well .. you're fat so ... duh?

Kidding, kidding ..

On topic, which teams around the league (a) need shooting (via deadline trade) and (b) have a 1st or young developable (new word micky fickies) to offer?

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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2) 

Post#1351 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:27 pm

kg01 wrote:...which teams around the league (a) need shooting (via deadline trade) and (b) have a 1st or young developable (new word micky fickies) to offer?

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I think Wizards are unable to trade another future draft pick.

But how ironic would it be if we moved Dedmon/Bellinelli and got Kelly Oubre back in return?
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Post#1352 » by kg01 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:40 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
kg01 wrote:...which teams around the league (a) need shooting (via deadline trade) and (b) have a 1st or young developable (new word micky fickies) to offer?

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I think Wizards are unable to trade another future draft pick.

But how ironic would it be if we moved Dedmon/Bellinelli and got Kelly Oubre back in return?


That would indeed be ironic. Doubt we'd do a move like that so I probably shouldn'tve put them on my list. No need for WhOubre on this team with Printz in place.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2) 

Post#1353 » by macd-gm » Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:53 pm

Dedmon / Marco would be a huge boost for the Wiz.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2) 

Post#1354 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:16 pm

kg01 wrote:
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kg01 wrote:...which teams around the league (a) need shooting (via deadline trade) and (b) have a 1st or young developable (new word micky fickies) to offer?

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I think Wizards are unable to trade another future draft pick.

But how ironic would it be if we moved Dedmon/Bellinelli and got Kelly Oubre back in return?


That would indeed be ironic. Doubt we'd do a move like that so I probably shouldn'tve put them on my list. No need for WhOubre on this team with Printz in place.




:wavefinger:


We're still in asset acquisition mode.

And as much as I like TP 2000, he isn't the caliber of player that we base personnel decisions on.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2) 

Post#1355 » by kg01 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:28 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
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Jamaaliver wrote:

I think Wizards are unable to trade another future draft pick.

But how ironic would it be if we moved Dedmon/Bellinelli and got Kelly Oubre back in return?


That would indeed be ironic. Doubt we'd do a move like that so I probably shouldn'tve put them on my list. No need for WhOubre on this team with Printz in place.




:wavefinger:


We're still in asset acquisition mode.

And as much as I like TP 2000, he isn't the caliber of player that we base personnel decisions on.


It's not so much an indication of the caliber of player Printz is. It's more an indictment of what I think WhOubre can be. You can grab a 2nd rounder in any draft to be what WhOubre is/can become IMHO.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2) 

Post#1356 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:33 pm

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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2) 

Post#1357 » by kg01 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:45 pm

Jamaaliver wrote::blank:


Am I wrong?

How many non-scoring, light-shooting, high-effort wing guys are available every year?

Yawn.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2) 

Post#1358 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:54 pm

1. I don't think there's much difference in talent between the two.

2. TP has a much better coach than KO. IMO-->Oubre could easily be rehabbed for value, the same way Budenholzer and his staff turned THJ into a decent ball player.

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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2) 

Post#1359 » by Spud2nique » Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:55 pm

kg01 wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:
kg01 wrote:
That would indeed be ironic. Doubt we'd do a move like that so I probably shouldn'tve put them on my list. No need for WhOubre on this team with Printz in place.




:wavefinger:


We're still in asset acquisition mode.

And as much as I like TP 2000, he isn't the caliber of player that we base personnel decisions on.


It's not so much an indication of the caliber of player Printz is. It's more an indictment of what I think WhOubre can be. You can grab a 2nd rounder in any draft to be what WhOubre is/can become IMHO.



Hmmmmm..not sure about grabbing a second rounder in any draft to be like oubre...


Having said that...no go on Oubre for me. I don't want any players that will help us win this year. That's why I love Baze so much this year. He's the best tank captain ever...he will hit 6 three pointers in a game for you, and still be able to lose the game for you somehow.


I bet Bud is thinking the same...more minutes for Baze!!!
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2) 

Post#1360 » by MaceCase » Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:57 pm

If Prince is not a player you base personnel decisions on then Oubre is certainly not a player you consider an asset acquisition.
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