Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3

[HMFFL]

^ If the Hawks can get AD and still keep Trae, Cap, Hunter, and Bogs, Hawks need to take it.

After the 2022 season, Hawks are in desperation territory now. The biggest home run move the Hawks can make right now is to get an elite post player that can go head to head with Giannis, Embiid, and Bam. AD's stock is low right now, but hopefully Trae can turn his career around.

We can justify these numbers.

$37,980,720
$40,600,080

AD's not even 30 years old yet. While he does seem to get injured often I like the lineup you mentioned with him in it.

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[HMFFL]

If Hawks can't get AD, who would be the next best player that the Hawks can get? Maybe Randle if the Knicks want to move on?

Gobert?... Kawhi?... Durant?

But my vote would be for Mitch Robinson.

I have decided to not even bother with Gobert due to his contract. $38 million next season, 41 after that, 44, and a player option at 46. Pass

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[atlantabbq99]

If Hawks can't get AD, who would be the next best player that the Hawks can get? Maybe Randle if the Knicks want to move on?

Gobert?... Kawhi?... Durant?

But my vote would be for Mitch Robinson.

I have decided to not even bother with Gobert due to his contract. $38 million next season, 41 after that, 44, and a player option at 46. Pass

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I'm also not a Gobert fan. Durant couldn't make it work with Kyrie, so i don't think Durant and Trae will work either.

AD is the logical choice, but if another team out bids for AD, then I would go in the direction of not getting a 2nd superstar and just build a deep bench, especially with all the injury problems the Hawks had in 2022.

[D21]

Fact is that is that we wouldn't even need a 2nd star if all guys were playing like last season playoffs.
Injuries, and Nate are the biggest problem IMO

Now, if they trade for someone, I know AD is a great player, but I would never trade for him, I bet it would be a disaster to have someone dominant and then a team lost in adjusting each time he's injured.
I would considering it less a gamble to trade for Gobert, even if I don't like his contract, but because this contract would look a bit smaller in two years when the cap will explode.

And AD cost more than Gobert on the next three seasons (third is player option for AD), it's only he 4th year of Gobert that reaches 45M

I'm not saying it's the trade I would like first, but than I would trade for Gobert before AD any day.
Now, I don't think it's the best trade to do.

[Jamaaliver]

None of those options are particularly viable. We'd have to get into a bidding war for any of those guys (except Gobert or Simmons).



Thoughts on moving Gallinari and a draft pick for Jerami Grant?

He'd provide depth and toughness at SF/PF. He's at least a two way player, and he's been humbled after being the top player on a bad franchise for years now.

[jayu70]

I think it's time we let the Ben Simmins infatuation end.

During Monday's meeting with the Brooklyn Nets, Ben Simmons told those in the room that a mental block exists for him to return to the court, which is also creating stress that could be a trigger point for his back issues.

Simmons indicated that the mental block, at least in part, dates back to the 2021 playoffs.

Simmons added that he does want to continue his basketball career and play for the Nets as he also works on solutions for his well-being.

He needs to just focus on getting better.

[atlantabbq99]

I think it's time we let the Ben Simmins infatuation end.

During Monday's meeting with the Brooklyn Nets, Ben Simmons told those in the room that a mental block exists for him to return to the court, which is also creating stress that could be a trigger point for his back issues.

Simmons indicated that the mental block, at least in part, dates back to the 2021 playoffs.

Simmons added that he does want to continue his basketball career and play for the Nets as he also works on solutions for his well-being.

He needs to just focus on getting better.

I agree, I've never been a Simmons fans since LSU. Last year's playoffs proved my original sentiment i had about Simmons. Seems like a nice buy but i just have a pet peeve about guys who can't shoot free throws.

I think his career is done, the love for the game is gone, he will walk away with a few million which is fine. I wish the best for him.

[TimeisIllmatic]

Curious as to what Hawks fans would offer for AD. I do like Hunter on the Lakers but I feel like y'all would wanna keep him as part of the core.

[kg01]

Curious as to what Hawks fans would offer for AD. I do like Hunter on the Lakers but I feel like y'all would wanna keep him as part of the core.

Depends.

Can you guarantee he's gonna get in shape and stop being out all the dang time? If so, the offer skyrockets.

In reality though, I kinda think this past year is more of an indicator of what to expect from him going forward. He's earned the day-2-Davis moniker and we have enough moderately healthy guys to fill a clown car.

As such, the offers for him plummet to something you'd probably think is laughable.

[TimeisIllmatic]

Curious as to what Hawks fans would offer for AD. I do like Hunter on the Lakers but I feel like y'all would wanna keep him as part of the core.

Depends.

Can you guarantee he's gonna get in shape and stop being out all the dang time? If so, the offer skyrockets.

In reality though, I kinda think this past year is more of an indicator of what to expect from him going forward. He's earned the day-2-Davis moniker and we have enough moderately healthy guys to fill a clown car.

As such, the offers for him plummet to something you'd probably think is laughable.

I think AD has threw the towel in since he already got his new contract and a championship ring so I don't expect much from AD moving forward.

Lakers need to sell high this offseason.

[Jamaaliver]

Curious as to what Hawks fans would offer for AD. I do like Hunter on the Lakers but I feel like y'all would wanna keep him as part of the core.

If we were to gamble on a A Davis trade, it seems like it'd be specifically for the playoffs. We can make the top-10 in the East, but to grab a top 4 seed and make consistently deep postseason runs, an elite big man is needed.

I'd start the bidding at Clint Capela, DeAndre Hunter, the expiring contract of D Gallinari and a first round draft pick for Anthony Davis and Talen Horton-Tucker.

Starting Five
Anthony Davis
John Collins
Bogdan Bogdan
Kevin Huerter
Trae Young

This is an improved starting five with lots of offensive firepower. Okongwu and Jalen Johnson off the bench would have to provide frontcourt depth.

[CP War Hawks]

If Schlenk pursues AD, I'd want him cored up with OO and Trae at all costs. Everyone else and picks are on the table. Trae must have AD and Onyeka to compliment him on defense.

Hell the whole team needs those guys backing them up with no real strong defensive players outside the front court.

[kg01]

If y'all are thinking Davis would be coming here to do any level of "dirty work" (i.e. defense) in support of Trae or anybody else, I've got some beachfront property in Kansas for sale.

[kg01]

Curious as to what Hawks fans would offer for AD. I do like Hunter on the Lakers but I feel like y'all would wanna keep him as part of the core.

Depends.

Can you guarantee he's gonna get in shape and stop being out all the dang time? If so, the offer skyrockets.

In reality though, I kinda think this past year is more of an indicator of what to expect from him going forward. He's earned the day-2-Davis moniker and we have enough moderately healthy guys to fill a clown car.

As such, the offers for him plummet to something you'd probably think is laughable.

I think AD has threw the towel in since he already got his new contract and a championship ring so I don't expect much from AD moving forward.

Lakers need to sell high this offseason.

Yeah. I definitely see it from your angle. Just not from anyone else's.

[TimeisIllmatic]

Curious as to what Hawks fans would offer for AD. I do like Hunter on the Lakers but I feel like y'all would wanna keep him as part of the core.

If we were to gamble on a A Davis trade, it seems like it'd be specifically for the playoffs. We can make the top-10 in the East, but to grab a top 4 seed and make consistently deep postseason runs, an elite big man is needed.

I'd start the bidding at Clint Capela, DeAndre Hunter, the expiring contract of D Gallinari and a first round draft pick for Anthony Davis and Talen Horton-Tucker.

Starting Five
Anthony Davis
John Collins
Bogdan Bogdan
Kevin Huerter
Trae Young

This is an improved starting five with lots of offensive firepower. Okongwu and Jalen Johnson off the bench would have to provide frontcourt depth.

Not a bad offer. If the Hawks offered another first, that would be a good deal IMO.

[D21]

Curious as to what Hawks fans would offer for AD. I do like Hunter on the Lakers but I feel like y'all would wanna keep him as part of the core.

If we were to gamble on a A Davis trade, it seems like it'd be specifically for the playoffs. We can make the top-10 in the East, but to grab a top 4 seed and make consistently deep postseason runs, an elite big man is needed.

I'd start the bidding at Clint Capela, DeAndre Hunter, the expiring contract of D Gallinari and a first round draft pick for Anthony Davis and Talen Horton-Tucker.

Starting Five
Anthony Davis
John Collins
Bogdan Bogdan
Kevin Huerter
Trae Young

This is an improved starting five with lots of offensive firepower. Okongwu and Jalen Johnson off the bench would have to provide frontcourt depth.

I'm surprised by your offer!
I tend to agree with you on a lot of things, but this AD trade... I can't imagine one second that AD would play more defense than Capela or Hunter, and we would loose both. Not to say that if we can keep our roster, and not playing them too early after surgery like the start of this season, leading to other injuries during the season... the defense of Capela and Hunter are better than AD defense.
I put him in the defensive overrated class. He had better offensive impact than LeBron on LAL title season, but certainly not on defense. LeBron was the king of the LAL defense. It's just that as he was in the run for MVP, media was selling AD has DPY, which he was not at all.

I'm smelling a bust in bringing AD here, a small one if he's not injured, and a big one if he continues to be injured like most of his seasons.

I may consider trading Capela to upgrade something, but certainly not Capela and Hunter for a player like AD.
If trades need to be done, I'm starting with idea to trade anything but Trae, Bogi, Hunter and Okongwu. They are the one I keep, and I would start by trading McMillan before any players if it would not give the feeling that ATL cut his head coaches every year

[atlantabbq99]

Curious as to what Hawks fans would offer for AD. I do like Hunter on the Lakers but I feel like y'all would wanna keep him as part of the core.

If we were to gamble on a A Davis trade, it seems like it'd be specifically for the playoffs. We can make the top-10 in the East, but to grab a top 4 seed and make consistently deep postseason runs, an elite big man is needed.

I'd start the bidding at Clint Capela, DeAndre Hunter, the expiring contract of D Gallinari and a first round draft pick for Anthony Davis and Talen Horton-Tucker.

Starting Five
Anthony Davis
John Collins
Bogdan Bogdan
Kevin Huerter
Trae Young

This is an improved starting five with lots of offensive firepower. Okongwu and Jalen Johnson off the bench would have to provide frontcourt depth.

I would offer Collins and Huerter for AD or Collins and two 1st round picks for AD.

I think AD has already expressed his frustration at playing the 5 in LA and feels more comfortable at the 4 like he was in New Orleans. I think AD would feel more comfortable playing along side Cap than Collins.

[atlantabbq99]

Curious as to what Hawks fans would offer for AD. I do like Hunter on the Lakers but I feel like y'all would wanna keep him as part of the core.

If we were to gamble on a A Davis trade, it seems like it'd be specifically for the playoffs. We can make the top-10 in the East, but to grab a top 4 seed and make consistently deep postseason runs, an elite big man is needed.

I'd start the bidding at Clint Capela, DeAndre Hunter, the expiring contract of D Gallinari and a first round draft pick for Anthony Davis and Talen Horton-Tucker.

Starting Five
Anthony Davis
John Collins
Bogdan Bogdan
Kevin Huerter
Trae Young

This is an improved starting five with lots of offensive firepower. Okongwu and Jalen Johnson off the bench would have to provide frontcourt depth.

I would offer Collins and Huerter for AD or Collins and two 1st round picks for AD.

I could be wrong but I think AD has expressed his frustration at playing the 5 with the Lakers and would like to remain at the 4 like he was in New Orleans. I think AD would rather play long side Cap than Collins.

[Jamaaliver]

I noticed his teammates aren't defending, and leaving Gobert to not only defend his own man, but his teammates guy too. The game changes in the playoffs but his team mates don't seem to grasp that. Mitchell underperformed but the media wants to focus on Gobert.

This is my take as well. I believe a healthy Gobert takes us to another level in the postseason -- particularly if we grab another 3 & D wing to replace Reddish/Delon Wright. Giannis, Embiid, Bam and Siakam wouldn't be able to do much against the size and length of Rudy G.

Trae could toss him lobs all day and run off Gobert screens with plenty of space.

And if teams try to go small to get Gobert off the court, we could just play Okongwu at center to counter them.

The biggest issue really comes down to Gobert's salary. He makes so much money for a one way player.

Gobert for Capela, Gallinari and the 2022 draft pick works out by the numbers.

[Geaux_Hawks]

Curious as to what Hawks fans would offer for AD. I do like Hunter on the Lakers but I feel like y'all would wanna keep him as part of the core.

If we were to gamble on a A Davis trade, it seems like it'd be specifically for the playoffs. We can make the top-10 in the East, but to grab a top 4 seed and make consistently deep postseason runs, an elite big man is needed.

I'd start the bidding at Clint Capela, DeAndre Hunter, the expiring contract of D Gallinari and a first round draft pick for Anthony Davis and Talen Horton-Tucker.

Starting Five
Anthony Davis
John Collins
Bogdan Bogdan
Kevin Huerter
Trae Young

This is an improved starting five with lots of offensive firepower. Okongwu and Jalen Johnson off the bench would have to provide frontcourt depth.

I would offer Collins and Huerter for AD or Collins and two 1st round picks for AD.

I think AD has already expressed his frustration at playing the 5 in LA and feels more comfortable at the 4 like he was in New Orleans. I think AD would feel more comfortable playing along side Cap than Collins.

If we're bringing in AD, it's for these reasons that he will welcome coming here. He played his best ball at the 4, and he probably wants to play next to someone that can actually take pressure off of him defensively in the frontcourt.

On the flipside, a defensive frontcourt of Hunter, AD, and Capela is ideally what we need for Trae Young. Not the undersized Collins. I think we have seen enough to know that John just ain't it for us.