Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3

[Jamaaliver]

I doubt you get a starting center for 2nds.

I think you can get lower-end ones like Noel and Baynes. Not solid ones like Adams, that will take a 1st rounder which we can't do at this time.

What about bringing back Dedmon? Sounds like Sacramento might eventually be open to just getting from under that contract...

2019 NBA Free Agency's 10 Best and 10 Worst Contracts so Far

No. 2 Worst: Dewayne Dedmon, Sacramento Kings



Contract: 3 years, $40 million ($26.7 million guaranteed)

For Dewayne Dedmon apologists like myself, this cuts to the core.

At no point was his price point a bargain, but it seemed like a savvy gamble by the Sacramento Kings. Dedmon entered last summer's free-agency period as one of the preeminent floor-spacing rim protectors. Giannis Antetokounmpo was the only player last season who rivaled his defensive rebound, steal and block percentages while making at least 25 three-pointers.

Fast forward to now and Dedmon's contract is verging on disaster. He's nailing just 21.6 percent of his threes and barely part of the Kings' rotation.

The latter is a bigger red flag because it speaks to the depths of his struggles. This isn't just a matter of Dedmon not making his long balls, as Sactown Royalty's Tim Maxwell wrote:

Spoiler:

"If a shooting slump was the only aspect of Dedmon's game that was hurting, he would still provide an immense amount of value for this team due to his rebounding and defense, but another problem is currently plaguing his production and eviscerating his on-court effectiveness: turnovers. Although he's always been a mistake-prone player, typically ranking toward the bottom of centers in turnover rate, Dewayne's errors have reached an inexcusable level. According to Cleaning the Glass, Dedmon leads the NBA in turnover percentage. Let's say that again. Dewayne Dedmon leads the NBA in turnover percentage: not James Harden or Luka Doncic or Trae Young or any of the ball-dominant players in the league. Dewayne Dedmon.

"His rate of coughing up the rock has nearly doubled from season to season, increasing from 14.3 percent in his final year with the Hawks to an otherworldly 27.4 percent in Sacramento. For a player who ranks 153rd in usage rate in the league, that simply can't happen. Perhaps most maddeningly of all is how those turnovers have come about. They're almost all completely unforced."

Dedmon is playing up to snuff on defense, and the Kings can treat his contract as a two-year agreement if this funk turns permanent. That helps. It is also of minimal comfort when weighed against who they signed him to be.

Bleacher Report

[jayu70]

I doubt you get a starting center for 2nds.

I think you can get lower-end ones like Noel and Baynes. Not solid ones like Adams, that will take a 1st rounder which we can't do at this time.

What about bringing back Dedmon? Sounds like Sacramento might eventually be open to just getting from under that contract...

2019 NBA Free Agency's 10 Best and 10 Worst Contracts so Far

No. 2 Worst: Dewayne Dedmon, Sacramento Kings



Contract: 3 years, $40 million ($26.7 million guaranteed)

For Dewayne Dedmon apologists like myself, this cuts to the core.

At no point was his price point a bargain, but it seemed like a savvy gamble by the Sacramento Kings. Dedmon entered last summer's free-agency period as one of the preeminent floor-spacing rim protectors. Giannis Antetokounmpo was the only player last season who rivaled his defensive rebound, steal and block percentages while making at least 25 three-pointers.

Fast forward to now and Dedmon's contract is verging on disaster. He's nailing just 21.6 percent of his threes and barely part of the Kings' rotation.

The latter is a bigger red flag because it speaks to the depths of his struggles. This isn't just a matter of Dedmon not making his long balls, as Sactown Royalty's Tim Maxwell wrote:

Spoiler:

"If a shooting slump was the only aspect of Dedmon's game that was hurting, he would still provide an immense amount of value for this team due to his rebounding and defense, but another problem is currently plaguing his production and eviscerating his on-court effectiveness: turnovers. Although he's always been a mistake-prone player, typically ranking toward the bottom of centers in turnover rate, Dewayne's errors have reached an inexc8usable level. According to Cleaning the Glass, Dedmon leads the NBA in turnover percentage. Let's say that again. Dewayne Dedmon leads the NBA in turnover percentage: not James Harden or Luka Doncic or Trae Young or any of the ball-dominant players in the league. Dewayne Dedmon.

"His rate of coughing up the rock has nearly doubled from season to season, increasing from 14.3 percent in his final year with the Hawks to an otherworldly 27.4 percent in Sacramento. For a player who ranks 153rd in usage rate in the league, that simply can't happen. Perhaps most maddeningly of all is how those turnovers have come about. They're almost all completely unforced."

Dedmon is playing up to snuff on defense, and the Kings can treat his contract as a two-year agreement if this funk turns permanent. That helps. It is also of minimal comfort when weighed against who they signed him to be.

Bleacher Report

If Sac is willing to pay for his salary dump...sure.

[tbhawksfan1]

With all due respect to Trae deserving a good team, he has it. The Hawks are just not there yet. TS has assembled elite Young talent and there is more on the way. His salary management is perfect. Hawks will have top flexibility when it's time.

It isn't time yet. Any attempt propulse the team to #8 seed this year will only be short-term gratification at the cost of long-term greatness.

What's the hurt of trying to make a run for the POs this year? The cost is not trading trade assets for future gains and bringing in lesser players to shore up a lame #8 seed attempt. Lame because even with a couple of ok additions, Hawks are far from competitive right now.

The other possiblity is to TANK. Trade Parker, Len and any of the expirings for picks. The 20 FAcy is bad. Take on salary for picks.

It's a good time to set up for the 21 draft when the HSs will be eligable. 21 FA after another top pick Hawks will be loaded with rookie contract talent and massive cap.

Trae, Collins, Hunter, Heurt, Cam, Nando… Wiseman and NJ mid late teens FRP. With a load of future especially 21 draft assets and crazy cap heading into 21 FAcy.

I think this is TS's plan and it's been mine from the begining. Let it play out and build a dynasty

[Jamaaliver]

NBA Trade Candidate Watch: Southeast Division

Jabari Parker, PF
Atlanta Hawks
$6.5MM cap hit; $6.5MM player option for 2020/21

Like the Wizards, the Hawks probably won’t shift into selling mode until their playoff hopes are all but extinguished. And it may take a while for that to happen in an Eastern Conference where the 8-12 Hornets currently hold onto the No. 8 seed.

Still, at 4-15, the Hawks are already 3.5 games out of the postseason picture, so unless they start winning some games soon, they’ll have to consider shopping some veteran players. Although Parker is only 24, the sixth-year forward qualifies as one such veteran.

With 17.8 PPG on 51.8% shooting through 18 games (28.1 MPG), Parker has been the Hawks’ best scorer not named Trae Young this season. And it’s not as if he’s been putting up numbers against second-stringers — he has been a starter since John Collins was hit with a 25-game suspension early in the season.

With a $6.5MM player option for the 2020/21 season, Parker could be a one-and-done in Atlanta, so if a team in need of frontcourt scoring wants to make a play for him before the deadline, the Hawks would be wise to listen.

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[Jamaaliver]

Potential trade target?

Bembry and a future 2nd rounder, maybe...

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[tbhawksfan1]

What if ORL could be enticed into a Parker / Nets FRP for Bamba. Wouldn't improve team in the short, but would give us a C to add to the young core that should be ready to start / contribute by next season.

[King Ken]

There is about 5-6 legit trades we can do without trading anything significant like a 1st round pick. Those are the trades that entice me

[King Ken]

With all due respect to Trae deserving a good team, he has it. The Hawks are just not there yet. TS has assembled elite Young talent and there is more on the way. His salary management is perfect. Hawks will have top flexibility when it's time.

It isn't time yet. Any attempt propulse the team to #8 seed this year will only be short-term gratification at the cost of long-term greatness.

What's the hurt of trying to make a run for the POs this year? The cost is not trading trade assets for future gains and bringing in lesser players to shore up a lame #8 seed attempt. Lame because even with a couple of ok additions, Hawks are far from competitive right now.

The other possiblity is to TANK. Trade Parker, Len and any of the expirings for picks. The 20 FAcy is bad. Take on salary for picks.

It's a good time to set up for the 21 draft when the HSs will be eligable. 21 FA after another top pick Hawks will be loaded with rookie contract talent and massive cap.

Trae, Collins, Hunter, Heurt, Cam, Nando… Wiseman and NJ mid late teens FRP. With a load of future especially 21 draft assets and crazy cap heading into 21 FAcy.

I think this is TS's plan and it's been mine from the begining. Let it play out and build a dynasty

I am usually on board with tanking but no this year. I don't think we will make the playoffs thanks to John but I do want to feel like we can be a potential playoff team.

I am all in on improving, not selling. I want to make trades to improve the squad. That said, I am also team, we are still rebuilding therefore prime assets aren't available. That means are core pieces plus Bruno and all of our 1st round picks.

[jayu70]

With all due respect to Trae deserving a good team, he has it. The Hawks are just not there yet. TS has assembled elite Young talent and there is more on the way. His salary management is perfect. Hawks will have top flexibility when it's time.

It isn't time yet. Any attempt propulse the team to #8 seed this year will only be short-term gratification at the cost of long-term greatness.

What's the hurt of trying to make a run for the POs this year? The cost is not trading trade assets for future gains and bringing in lesser players to shore up a lame #8 seed attempt. Lame because even with a couple of ok additions, Hawks are far from competitive right now.

The other possiblity is to TANK. Trade Parker, Len and any of the expirings for picks. The 20 FAcy is bad. Take on salary for picks.

It's a good time to set up for the 21 draft when the HSs will be eligable. 21 FA after another top pick Hawks will be loaded with rookie contract talent and massive cap.

Trae, Collins, Hunter, Heurt, Cam, Nando… Wiseman and NJ mid late teens FRP. With a load of future especially 21 draft assets and crazy cap heading into 21 FAcy.

I think this is TS's plan and it's been mine from the begining. Let it play out and build a dynasty

I am usually on board with tanking but no this year. I don't think we will make the playoffs thanks to John but I do want to feel like we can be a potential playoff team.

I am all in on improving, not selling. I want to make trades to improve the squad. That said, I am also team, we are still rebuilding therefore prime assets aren't available. That means are core pieces plus Bruno and all of our 1st round picks.

I don't think we'll tank like the last 2 years. C and Backup PG should be the focus.
Parsons and Turner, most likely moved.
Unless we get miraculous offers for Len and Parker, I think they'll be here.

[tbhawksfan1]

Trae can wait one more year. Hawks aren't ready to do squat yet. Bringing in a little deadline help, sure as long as it doesn't waste future assets. the Hawks time is coming. Youngest team in the playoffs next year.

[King Ken]

Trae can wait one more year. Hawks aren't ready to do squat yet. Bringing in a little deadline help, sure as long as it doesn't waste future assets. the Hawks time is coming. Youngest team in the playoffs next year.

I disagree. There is a major difference between regression and not doing squat. Improvement is needed especially when Trae has made that leap.

That said, trading a 1st or future 1st is an abomination to a rebuilding team. Even if it's another team 1st

[jayu70]

Trae can wait one more year. Hawks aren't ready to do squat yet. Bringing in a little deadline help, sure as long as it doesn't waste future assets. the Hawks time is coming. Youngest team in the playoffs next year.

I disagree. There is a major difference between regression and not doing squat. Improvement is needed especially when Trae has made that leap.

That said, trading a 1st or future 1st is an abomination to a rebuilding team. Even if it's another team 1st

I agree we can upgrade certain sports on the roster without dipping in the goody bag of assets.
Honestly, I think just having John back will help tremendously. Not so much because John is a Mega Star - it's more of what it does to our rotations - Less Parker and Vince at PF/C. We saw what having Huerter back did - limited Turner and Bembry's minutes. We can deploy our true small ball line up of Trae, Huerter, Reddish, Hunter and Collins or Trae, Huerter, Reddish/Hunter, Parker, Collins,

[Radioblacktive1]

Parker and Collins on the floor at the same time will exhaust any defense. i’m excited for that.

[King Ken]

Parker and Collins on the floor at the same time will exhaust any defense. i’m excited for that.

Exactly, anyone who can't see we need a center is crazy.

[VCfor3]

Yeah trying to make a move for a rental C (unless a young long term solution comes free for a mildly-reasonable price) without using serious assets would help. Collins coming back will help a lot too.

[tbhawksfan1]

I would love to bring in a starting worthy C. Even if just a year or two stop-gap to Something…

Hawks can easily take on salary (2 year max) for expirings that are somewhat playable. need to find a team that will lose talent for cap relief… Not easy this year.

My like would be to go after Bamba. ORL wants to win. If Parker has late FRP value at deadline, Nets pick, Parker and a bit more should be getting into Bamba value range. I think Bamba could be as good as JJJ or Wiseman in a few.

So I'm in the be patient group, unless a C shakes lose that can be had for cap. Next years team is very likely a PO team

[VCfor3]

I wonder how available Poeltl from SAS is. Where the Spurs are in their playoff hunt at the deadline probably matters, but it could be worth a call.

[tbhawksfan1]

100% in on the rebuild, but there's no harm in improving the team a bit this year for some SRP / Parker / Len / any other expirings.

I think TS is going to go for another FRP this summer. Too much cap not to.

Poeltl would be a nice cheap add. Len and Jones are actually playing ok. Nando needs mins. Wings is what's Killing the win column

[tbhawksfan1]

I would tell Trae and the other core youth to suck it up, trade everything not nailed down for picks, especially 2021 and tank hard.

[HMFFL]

All these players are now trade eligible

On December 15, 123 players have their trade restrictions lifted. Below you will find a full list, along with their 2019-20 salaries:

ATLANTA HAWKS

Jabari Parker ($6,500,000)
Vince Carter ($2,564,753)


https://hoopshype.com/2019/12/15/all-these-players-are-now-trade-eligible/

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