Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3

[saloonyk8]

I'm not 100% sure Lavine wants to take less money and not be the man...so we'll see. I think if he demands to come here that's great we can leverage that and package $36M in contracts... His price in that scenario is a lot less than a Beal trade for example.

Gobert, Lavine, Trae... That's 3 max... That's an entire roster you would just have minimum players next to them

[D21]

...Gobert, Lavine, Trae... That's 3 max... That's an entire roster you would just have minimum players next to them

And Gobert would ask for trade one season later after seeing all opponent wings easily attacking the paint because Trae-Lavine would be like open doors on defense, and he would turn crazy to have to stop them himself.
Not to say that making Gobert work to much on defense would limit the possibility of using at the best on offense.

Even if ATL gets Gobert, they would need a better defender than Lavine

[Years90Suns]

I'm not 100% sure Lavine wants to take less money and not be the man...so we'll see. I think if he demands to come here that's great we can leverage that and package $36M in contracts... His price in that scenario is a lot less than a Beal trade for example.

Gobert, Lavine, Trae... That's 3 max... That's an entire roster you would just have minimum players next to them

Lavine in Chicago stopped being the man with the level of DeRozan.
Here he would be a second option in a better team.
I do not think we need to get Gobert for all that money when we already have Capela. The improvement at the C position would come by adding a shooting big man. Or a C who can defend small guys.
An upgrade would be Adebayo, López, Williams III, etc.
Obviously they are not going to be available, so we need to find a low profile of any of those players.
The one player I would trade for is KAT. He can shoot, pass, block shots and play with his back to the basket.

[Jamaaliver]

This article falls more under content than reporting or even NBA analysis...but this trade isn't terrible. Harrison would be a useful, veteran combo forward with GS ties in the short-term. Plus at #4, we could get one last swing at a top flight player to pair with Trae for the long-term.

The article cites AJ Griffin, but I can't see that. I'd guess us moving into the top-5 would be for Dyson Daniels, Jeremy Sochan or Keegan Murray.

3 Trades That Could Shake Up the Lottery

Atlanta Hawks receive: No. 4 pick and Harrison Barnes

Sacramento Kings receive: No. 16 pick, No. 44 pick and John Collins

Atlanta's backtracking from conference finalist to first-round fodder has opened up the possibility of "wholesale changes," per B/R's Jake Fischer. Turning the oft-rumored John Collins, a non-lottery pick and a mid-second-rounder into the No. 4 pick and a plug-and-play swingman in Harrison Barnes could get the ball rolling on a busy summer.

Bleacher Report

[tbhawksfan1]

This article falls more under content than reporting or even NBA analysis...but this trade isn't terrible. Harrison would be a useful, veteran combo forward with GS ties in the short-term. Plus at #4, we could get one last swing at a top flight player to pair with Trae for the long-term.

The article cites AJ Griffin, but I can't see us that. I'd guess us moving into the top-5 would be for Dyson Daniels, Jeremy Sochan or Keegan Murray.

3 Trades That Could Shake Up the Lottery

Atlanta Hawks receive: No. 4 pick and Harrison Barnes

Sacramento Kings receive: No. 16 pick, No. 44 pick and John Collins

Atlanta's backtracking from conference finalist to first-round fodder has opened up the possibility of "wholesale changes," [url]per B/R's Jake Fischer[/url]. Turning the oft-rumored John Collins, a non-lottery pick and a mid-second-rounder into the No. 4 pick and a plug-and-play swingman in Harrison Barnes could get the ball rolling on a busy summer.

Bleacher Report

I believe that I can say that I've never seen a Bleacher Report Hawks's trade that I like. Make it:

Barnes / Sabonis for Gallo / JC / #16 works for me though

[atlantabbq99]

^ if Smith or Ivey fall to #4 then yes, you do the trade.

I'm still 50-50 on Banchero, but if the Hawks end up swaping Collins for Banchero, i wouldn't be too upset.

[tbhawksfan1]

Hawks really need a post up big. They have the three point shooters, but nothing but P&R inside

[Jamaaliver]

Hawks really need a post up big. They have the three point shooters, but nothing but P&R inside

I'm with you.

Trae weighs 170 pounds. He needs a big man capable of doing work inside, challenging the defense in a different capacity and getting easy, high percentage buckets when Trae's jumper isn't falling.

Someone who can make opposing big men like Bam and Embiid actually have to work on defense. A true two way guy. Doesn't even need to be a star.

Wendell Carter, Jr. would have been perfect for us.

[Jamaaliver]

Jerami Grant to the Hawks?



If the Hawks were to pursue Grant this offseason, they have two players with salaries that match up in a potential trade with the Pistons: Bogdan Bogdanovic and Danilo Gallinari. Bogdanovic is younger, but he also has a worrisome knee issue that lingered all season and he is expected to address it during the summer.

Gallinari has an expiring contract that is guaranteed for $5 million if he’s waived before June 29, so Detroit could create additional cap space if they wanted, or they could just keep him into the season and trade him later on.

The Hawks likely would have to part with the team’s 16th pick, too, which seems realistic because I don’t think the team is dead set on adding a rookie in the middle of the first round.

The Athletic

[raleigh]

I couldn't click "confirm" quick enough on a Bogi/16 -for- Grant swap. That's a no-brainer for so many reasons, but the fact it creates leverage for both moving Collins AND not feeling pressured to extend Hunter...

I think it's more realistic that the Pistons would want something built around Hunter/16, which I would also do.

Gallinari has an expiring contract that is guaranteed for $5 million if he’s waived before June 29, so Detroit could create additional cap space if they wanted, or they could just keep him into the season and trade him later on.

I really think this is the last year I'll pay the measly $20 to subscribe to the Athletic. When I can do better research...

[raleigh]

Thinking out loud...I think the Pistons would consider taking Gallo's $21M fully guaranteed. Their GM is on record as preferring trades to free agency, so Gallo's expiring is probably as valuable to them as that cap space.

Hunter/Gallo/#16 -for- Grant

^^^At this stage in their rebuild, I think that kind of move makes a lot of sense for Detroit. They get a full year's trial of Hunter (and RFA rights) to see if they want to keep him, they get a mid-first to throw a dart at, and they get a massive expiring to get into the trade deadline fun should they desire. (And they don't rush the rebuild, which would be a mistake for them).

Grant is a legit forward upgrade for the Hawks because he can create some on offense and is switchable defensively. He's also open to an extension, which is not to be overlooked. Last year, the Hawks have Gallo+Hunter+Jalen a total of ~3400 minutes. That's plenty to split between Grant and Jalen next year.

Moneywise, I have this trade adding on about $8M in salary, but ATL would be a stronger team and could more easily handle offloading someone like Huerter as needed.

EDIT: This would create a trade exception for the Hawks, too. I find calculating the amounts insanely confusing, but I think it would be for approximately the amount of Hunter's salary. That could come in handy...

[jayu70]

Thinking out loud...I think the Pistons would consider taking Gallo's $21M fully guaranteed. Their GM is on record as preferring trades to free agency, so Gallo's expiring is probably as valuable to them as that cap space.

Hunter/Gallo/#16 -for- Grant

...

Hunter and #16 for an expiring Grant, an UFA that is seeking $28 mil per......

[D21]

Hawks really need a post up big. They have the three point shooters, but nothing but P&R inside

I'm with you.

Trae weighs 170 pounds. He needs a big man capable of doing work inside, challenging the defense in a different capacity and getting easy, high percentage buckets when Trae's jumper isn't falling.

Someone who can make opposing big men like Bam and Embiid actually have to work on defense. A true two way guy. Doesn't even need to be a star.

Wendell Carter, Jr. would have been perfect for us.

I agree on Carter Jr, but what about Turner? He defend enough, can score inside, and would make Embiid or Bam move a lot as he can shoot the 3s.
If we can get Turner with sending Capela, we can then use Capela in a trade for Simmons and we get all of what we are searching:
- stopper for opponent wings
- keeping at least 4 guys shooting 3s to spread the floor and make it easier for Trae (I have a big doubt on a lineup with Simmons+Capela or Okongwu as it would only make 3 guys shooting 3s and it would be easier to cover, unless the matchup is specific)

Regarding Grant, and the 28M/year he wants, I'm sending Bogi alone and Hunter for him. So they can keep dreaming for adding a useful contract and a pick.
The only position where Grant has a bit of impact is PF, which would mean trading Collins. But I seriously doubt Grant would make more impact than Collins, and he would cost more, so no. Even if Collins is traded, I don't want Grant as a replacement.

[Years90Suns]

The way to be a different team would be to do that Grant trade and then play

Trae
Huerter
Hunter
Grant
Collins

Play full speed, everybody shooting, everybody helping on defense and everybody helping to close the rebounds...

It could be a disaster to play without a traditional center, and the task could be too demanding for Collins, but Collins-Hunter-Grant can change men continously.

[Jamaaliver]

The way to be a different team would be to do that Grant trade and then play

Trae
Huerter
Hunter
Grant
Collins

Play full speed, everybody shooting, everybody helping on defense and everybody helping to close the rebounds...

It could be a disaster to play without a traditional center, and the task could be too demanding for Collins, but Collins-Hunter-Grant can change men continuously.

This is a very radical, outside the box approach. but not a terrible idea. We'd need to embrace the 7 seconds or less mantra of the 2000s Suns, but we could score 120+ every night and beat a ton of teams off offense alone.

Defensively we'd be a disaster. But how many teams could keep up with our scoring with that squad?

I wouldn't trust Nate to oversee it. But Mike D'Antoni would be perfect to lead this type of attack. Trae would likely be an MVP candidate in a super-sized attack that could see him lead the league in assists per game.

I like it...for at least one year.

[D21]

I wouldn't trust Nate to oversee it. But Mike D'Antoni would be perfect to lead this type of attack. Trae would likely be an MVP candidate in a super-sized attack that could see him lead the league in assists per game.

I like it...for at least one year.

Depending on who are the players on the bench, it can work, but like you said, another coach would be needed, and D'Antoni who already would fit this the current roster, may sign with CHA
I'm afraid that during Nate's contract, we will miss on other coaches being a better fit

[saloonyk8]

I wouldn't trust Nate to oversee it. But Mike D'Antoni would be perfect to lead this type of attack. Trae would likely be an MVP candidate in a super-sized attack that could see him lead the league in assists per game.

I like it...for at least one year.

Depending on who are the players on the bench, it can work, but like you said, another coach would be needed, and D'Antoni who already would fit this the current roster, may sign with CHA
I'm afraid that during Nate's contract, we will miss on other coaches being a better fit

I don't think very many teams are contenders if they're not top 10 in defense in addition to offense. Can't see DAntoni having success on that level

[saloonyk8]

OG Aunoby rumor time, what would it take to acquire him from Hawks? Could we still keep Hunter and OO?

Would they want Collins or Bogi as centerpiece?

[Jamaaliver]

I don't think very many teams are contenders if they're not top 10 in defense in addition to offense. Can't see DAntoni having success on that level

True. But is there another realistic path to contention in the next 3 months that doesn't compromise our future?

Hell. do we HAVE to contend next season?

Would we settle for a potential top-4 seed, home court advantage in the 1st round of the playoffs instead?

Isn't a record setting offense, a deep post-season run and an MVP-caliber season for Trae be a nice consolation while we wait for our team to mature into true contenders?




Turn this place into a consistent winner...and other top players will line up to play in Atlanta.

[Godaddycurse]

OG Aunoby rumor time, what would it take to acquire him from Hawks? Could we still keep Hunter and OO?

Would they want Collins or Bogi as centerpiece?

No to Collins and hell no to Bogi. Would take OO+