2019 NBA Draft Prep

[shakes0]

I don’t agree there. I think their is 1 transcendent talent (Zion), 2 franchise players (including Zion), 2 AllStar caliber players, and a gang of guys who could swing from journeyman to very good starter. Good talent at the top, but filled with what I think are solid pros all throughout.

and I see it as 3 deep with potential stars and then a whole bunch of filler. 2017 went 7 deep with potential stars pre-draft and 2018 went 8 deep in that department. And since the Hawks are gonna potentially be picking twice in the top 10 I don't think they're gonna find much value unless they are top 2 (since one of the 3 franchise players is a PG).

I'd rather see them package those picks for either a good player or in exchange for lottery picks in the future.

I remember the consensus being much different for 2017 & 2018. Both were, IIRC, labeled weak drafts. I legit think this draft can match the same level of talent and depth of any draft.

I think your memory is a little off. Last year was considered possibly the best draft in over a decade. Potential stars from Ayton all the way to Sexton. 2017 was very similar with potential stars from Fultz all the way to Lauri at #7.

This draft is hot garbage compared to those. Only 3 players considered to have star upside compared to the 7-8 from the previous 2 drafts. And unfortunately that weak spot at the top is right in the area where the Hawks will most likely have 2 draft picks.

[EazyRoc]

and I see it as 3 deep with potential stars and then a whole bunch of filler. 2017 went 7 deep with potential stars pre-draft and 2018 went 8 deep in that department. And since the Hawks are gonna potentially be picking twice in the top 10 I don't think they're gonna find much value unless they are top 2 (since one of the 3 franchise players is a PG).

I'd rather see them package those picks for either a good player or in exchange for lottery picks in the future.

I remember the consensus being much different for 2017 & 2018. Both were, IIRC, labeled weak drafts. I legit think this draft can match the same level of talent and depth of any draft.

I think your memory is a little off. Last year was considered possibly the best draft in over a decade. Potential stars from Ayton all the way to Sexton. 2017 was very similar with potential stars from Fultz all the way to Lauri at #7.

This draft is hot garbage compared to those. Only 3 players considered to have star upside compared to the 7-8 from the previous 2 drafts. And unfortunately that weak spot at the top is right in the area where the Hawks will most likely have 2 draft picks.

You’re right about 2018. Not so much about ‘17.

This draft is comparable to last years in my eyes. Give the “experts” time to catch up. There’s a lot of really good basketball players in this draft. Zion, Barrett, Morant, Langford, Hunter, K. Johnson, Jaxson Hayes, Doumbouya, Dedric Lawson, and a host of other guys I could be missing..

[Spud2nique]

I think Schlenk goes with the flow. If a deal makes sense to keep us flexible moving forward, we do it. If we do end up keeping our own pick and the Mavs pick (2 top 10’s) we can make some really nice selections for our group moving forward. My preference is 2 wings (any combo of Cam Culver Hunter Keldon would work for me) but some of you like Big Bruno and Jaxson (please don’t call me Chuck) Hayes. If that’s the center we need next to JC, do it.

[Spud2nique]

I'd consider trading the Mavs pick for Boston's no. 14, 19, and 21.

That’s would give us picks (most likely as it stands)

5 (our own 1-7)
14
19
21
35
42
43

7 picks in the first 43 would be an NBA record. I’m assuming we’d be trading about half of those picks for future flexibility. We can’t carry 7 rooks, 3 sophomores, a junior (Collins) and a senior (Prince). That’s a 12 man roster though.

[jayu70]

I'd consider trading the Mavs pick for Boston's no. 14, 19, and 21.

That’s would give us picks (most likely as it stands)

5 (our own 1-7)
14
19
21
35
42
43

7 picks in the first 43 would be an NBA record. I’m assuming we’d be trading about half of those picks for future flexibility. We can’t carry 7 rooks, 3 sophomores, a junior (Collins) and a senior (Prince). That’s a 12 man roster though.

That's a lot of draft and stashes.

[jayu70]

If the Hawks end up outside the top 3 they should consider trading both lottery picks. This draft is garbage.

I don’t agree there. I think their is 1 transcendent talent (Zion), 2 franchise players (including Zion), 2 AllStar caliber players, and a gang of guys who could swing from journeyman to very good starter. Good talent at the top, but filled with what I think are solid pros all throughout.

I don't think we should punt on the entire draft particularly when we need more talent across the entire roster especially at Backup PG, Wings and Center. If we punt, then we are putting all our eggs in the FA market to upgrade the roster and all I see is overpaying midlevel FAs.
I think we can trade down and still get a player to groom and grow and acquire a future 1st.
Even if these guys arent 'transcendent' - if Schlenk's record is any indication, he's a talent evaluator.
Example - who's the guy in this draft who you can deem a 'better version of Kevin Huerter?'

[EazyRoc]

If the Hawks end up outside the top 3 they should consider trading both lottery picks. This draft is garbage.

I don’t agree there. I think their is 1 transcendent talent (Zion), 2 franchise players (including Zion), 2 AllStar caliber players, and a gang of guys who could swing from journeyman to very good starter. Good talent at the top, but filled with what I think are solid pros all throughout.

I don't think we should punt on the entire draft particularly when we need more talent across the entire roster especially at Backup PG, Wings and Center. If we punt, then we are putting all our eggs in the FA market to upgrade the roster and all I see is overpaying midlevel FAs.
I think we can trade down and still get a player to groom and grow and acquire a future 1st.
Even if these guys arent 'transcendent' - if Schlenk's record is any indication, he's a talent evaluator.
Example - who's the guy in this draft who you can deem a 'better version of Kevin Huerter?'

I co sign that. I think you can add players to help this team get better all throughout the first round. Schlenk has been on the money with his picks too.

[shakes0]

I don’t agree there. I think their is 1 transcendent talent (Zion), 2 franchise players (including Zion), 2 AllStar caliber players, and a gang of guys who could swing from journeyman to very good starter. Good talent at the top, but filled with what I think are solid pros all throughout.

I don't think we should punt on the entire draft particularly when we need more talent across the entire roster especially at Backup PG, Wings and Center. If we punt, then we are putting all our eggs in the FA market to upgrade the roster and all I see is overpaying midlevel FAs.
I think we can trade down and still get a player to groom and grow and acquire a future 1st.
Even if these guys arent 'transcendent' - if Schlenk's record is any indication, he's a talent evaluator.
Example - who's the guy in this draft who you can deem a 'better version of Kevin Huerter?'

I co sign that. I think you can add players to help this team get better all throughout the first round. Schlenk has been on the money with his picks too.

yea you guys are right. The team can't afford to sit out this draft even if it is weak. It just sucks that the worst part of this draft (mid lottery) is right in the wheel house of where the Hawks will most likely have 2 picks. I do like the idea of packaging those to move down with additional future assets being acquired. No doubt this team is desperate for wings. I can't watch Bazemore play for another season, he's the worst rotation wing in the entire NBA possibly. Prince isn't much better. Replacing those two with some good young talent next year would be great. It's just too bad there's no answer at center in this draft.

[Jamaaliver]

yea you guys are right. The team can't afford to sit out this draft even if it is weak. It just sucks that the worst part of this draft (mid lottery) is right in the wheel house of where the Hawks will most likely have 2 picks.

I do like the idea of packaging those to move down with additional future assets being acquired. No doubt this team is desperate for wings. I can't watch Bazemore play for another season, he's the worst rotation wing in the entire NBA possibly. Prince isn't much better. Replacing those two with some good young talent next year would be great. It's just too bad there's no answer at center in this draft.

This is where I'm at. It's a mediocre draft class. But the benefit to that is the prospects between 7-18 are all very comparable. If we could trade from #5 to get a late lottery pick and another future first, that'd be great!

And the more I watched last night, the more i was convinced that Jontay Porter would be a perfect addition. (Assuming he's healthy.) Getting him with say, that Sacramento pick would be solid value. He's a decent shot blocker, a competent passer and above average shooter. He provides everything we're currently looking for in a 5-man.

[shakes0]

yea you guys are right. The team can't afford to sit out this draft even if it is weak. It just sucks that the worst part of this draft (mid lottery) is right in the wheel house of where the Hawks will most likely have 2 picks.

I do like the idea of packaging those to move down with additional future assets being acquired. No doubt this team is desperate for wings. I can't watch Bazemore play for another season, he's the worst rotation wing in the entire NBA possibly. Prince isn't much better. Replacing those two with some good young talent next year would be great. It's just too bad there's no answer at center in this draft.

This is where I'm at. It's a mediocre draft class. But the benefit to that is the prospects between 7-18 are all very comparable. If we could trade from #5 to get a late lottery pick and another future first, that'd be great!

And the more I watched last night, the more i was convinced that Jontay Porter would be a perfect addition. (Assuming he's healthy.) Getting him with say, that Sacramento pick would be solid value. He's a decent shot blocker, a competent passer and above average shooter. He provides everything we're currently looking for in a 5-man.

yea, but do you really want Jontay Porter and Omari Spellman hanging out together on the road around dinner time? They could probably shut down an Old Country Buffet together.

[Jamaaliver]

yea, but do you really want Jontay Porter and Omari Spellman hanging out together on the road around dinner time?

They could probably shut down an Old Country Buffet together.

FWIW, I no longer am considering Omari a long term piece. If he pans out, great. But i haven't seen enough to even include him in the calculus.




(Seriously, how does a pro athlete put on 50 pounds in 6 months? During the season?!?)

[personanongrata]

yea, but do you really want Jontay Porter and Omari Spellman hanging out together on the road around dinner time?

They could probably shut down an Old Country Buffet together.

FWIW, I no longer am considering Omari a long term piece. If he pans out, great. But i haven't seen enough to even include him in the calculus.




(Seriously, how does a pro athlete put on 50 pounds in 6 months? During the season?!?)

He's naturally fat. People who are naturally fat have to work very hard not to be.

[shakes0]

yea, but do you really want Jontay Porter and Omari Spellman hanging out together on the road around dinner time?

They could probably shut down an Old Country Buffet together.

FWIW, I no longer am considering Omari a long term piece. If he pans out, great. But i haven't seen enough to even include him in the calculus.




(Seriously, how does a pro athlete put on 50 pounds in 6 months? During the season?!?)

He's naturally fat. People who are naturally fat have to work very hard not to be.

trust me dude, I know that all too well. Been fighting the fat gene my whole life. Actually not my whole life. Didn't start trying to fight it till age 23 when I was 5'10 250. Got down to 180 and have been fighting to keep it off on a daily basis ever since. Now at age 49 I'm 200 pounds and that's with lots of exercise (hockey 4x per week) and always watching what I eat. My wife eats more than me and she doesn't have an ounce of body fat on her. she can also lose 5 pounds in a couple days if she needs to. Me, I've been on a diet since Labor Day (was up to 228 after open heart surgery last year) and have been busting my ass and have only lost 20 pounds in 6 months. Still got 15 to go.

[Jamaaliver]

Omari has the body of an 1980s WWF wrestler...

[MaceCase]

Throw a headband on Omari and there's no way you can convince me he's not 2010 Smoove.

[shakes0]

Throw a headband on Omari and there's no way you can convince me he's not 2010 Smoove.

If you mess a bit with the contrast on your TV he looks like this...

[Jamaaliver]

Anyone familiar with this kid?

Div. II player Hinton declares for NBA draft

Shaw University junior Amir Hinton told ESPN that he will declare for the 2019 NBA draft and hire an agent, forgoing his final season of collegiate eligibility.

"I think the timing is perfect for me," he said. "I will be hiring an agent. I am ready. I am going to try and be a lottery pick."

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Hinton, who is hoping to become the first Division II player to be drafted since 2005, is currently projected 49th in the ESPN Top 100. Hinton's season ended Saturday when his team lost to Virginia State in the CIAA Tournament championship game. He had 34 points, five rebounds, three assists and five steals, playing in front of 12 credentialed NBA scouts, according to his coach Joel Hopkins.

"All 30 NBA teams have been in to see him this season," Hopkins told ESPN. "Some of them multiple times."

Hinton confirmed as much.

"Some scouts have told me I am a top three guard in this class," he said.

Hinton led Division II in scoring this season at 29.4 points per game, being named CIAA Player of the Year. NBA scouts have told ESPN they are intrigued with his combination of size, athleticism and shot-making ability at 6-foot-5. Hinton told ESPN he is hoping to be invited to the NBA draft combine in Chicago in May.

"Getting invited to Chicago is one of my goals," he said. "That's a perfect place to get exposure, go in and do what I do. I want to play against the pros."

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[Spud2nique]

Omari has the body of an 1980s WWF wrestler...

Is that Koko B. ?

[Jamaaliver]

Is that Koko B. ?

I asked for a Hulk Hogan action figure back in '89. I got this guy instead.

Mama Iver appreciated diversity and representation long before I understood its significance.

[Spud2nique]

Is that Koko B. ?

I asked for a Hulk Hogan action figure back in '89. I got this guy instead.

Mama Iver appreciated diversity and representation long before I understood its significance.

I got the Hulk, Iron Sheik and Nikoila Volkov (no relation to x Hawk Alexander who hit a game winner vs Warriors in 1991? I think Rumeal was a rook..maybe 90).