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macd-gm wrote:I've decided that the best thing for Hawks fans in terms of trades is for the Hawks to try to make the Raptors as good as possible this year. Screw trying to get best return. Let's get some bench help to Toronto so we don't have the pick between the 2 evils of cavs/celts.
See now this makes me happy.....happier..I actually think the Raptors and Wizards have a chance. Both backcourts are solid and both been together a while which could help with chemistry in the playoffs.
Spud2nique wrote:macd-gm wrote:I've decided that the best thing for Hawks fans in terms of trades is for the Hawks to try to make the Raptors as good as possible this year. Screw trying to get best return. Let's get some bench help to Toronto so we don't have the pick between the 2 evils of cavs/celts.
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ATL Boy wrote:Spud2nique wrote:macd-gm wrote:I've decided that the best thing for Hawks fans in terms of trades is for the Hawks to try to make the Raptors as good as possible this year. Screw trying to get best return. Let's get some bench help to Toronto so we don't have the pick between the 2 evils of cavs/celts.
Pass on helping the Wizards. John Wall talking crap to Julio and Migos after game 6 last year is too anti-Atlanta for me to support.
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macd-gm wrote:Wiz have no shot unless they upgrade their 4/5
Jamaaliver wrote:^Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the The Stepien Rule prevents a team from trading consecutive 1st round draft picks.
Since we currently are projected to take their 2019 pick, I don't think they can trade the 2018 1st rounder before draft night.
King Ken wrote:Jamaaliver wrote:^Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the The Stepien Rule prevents a team from trading consecutive 1st round draft picks.
Since we currently are projected to take their 2019 pick, I don't think they can trade the 2018 1st rounder before draft night.
You are right. It would have to be a trade for the 2021 1st round pick. Lottery protected 2021, top 10 2022, and turns into two 2nd rounders after that. I think Cleveland would prefer Ersan over Moose. Much better player, more of a need, and an expiring contract.
jayu70 wrote:King Ken wrote:Jamaaliver wrote:^Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the The Stepien Rule prevents a team from trading consecutive 1st round draft picks.
Since we currently are projected to take their 2019 pick, I don't think they can trade the 2018 1st rounder before draft night.
You are right. It would have to be a trade for the 2021 1st round pick. Lottery protected 2021, top 10 2022, and turns into two 2nd rounders after that. I think Cleveland would prefer Ersan over Moose. Much better player, more of a need, and an expiring contract.
The way I understand this is since Cavs have the Brooklyn pick for 2018 they can indeed trade their own 2018 1st.
Spud2nique wrote:jayu70 wrote:King Ken wrote:You are right. It would have to be a trade for the 2021 1st round pick. Lottery protected 2021, top 10 2022, and turns into two 2nd rounders after that. I think Cleveland would prefer Ersan over Moose. Much better player, more of a need, and an expiring contract.
The way I understand this is since Cavs have the Brooklyn pick for 2018 they can indeed trade their own 2018 1st.
No because they have already traded their 2019 1st top 10 protected to us! They can trade the nets pick in 2018 but not their own.
Cavaliers also netted the Brooklyn Nets 2018 first-round pick. According to Bobby Marks of ESPN, this now allows for Cleveland to move their own 2018 first-round selection.
This is due in large part to the Stepien Rule that does not allow teams to wind up with back-to-back years without a single draft pick. This includes both guaranteed and non-guaranteed draft picks for any organization.
In the Cavaliers’ case, their 2018 first-round pick had been their only selection from next year’s draft and their 2019 first-round pick, which is top-10 protected. That pick was sent to the Atlanta Hawks in the Kyle Korver trade last season.
That being said, Cleveland wouldn’t be able to unload both picks if desired until the night of the 2018 NBA Draft.
jayu70 wrote:Spud2nique wrote:jayu70 wrote:The way I understand this is since Cavs have the Brooklyn pick for 2018 they can indeed trade their own 2018 1st.
No because they have already traded their 2019 1st top 10 protected to us! They can trade the nets pick in 2018 but not their own.
You are incorrect:Cavaliers also netted the Brooklyn Nets 2018 first-round pick. According to Bobby Marks of ESPN, this now allows for Cleveland to move their own 2018 first-round selection.
This is due in large part to the Stepien Rule that does not allow teams to wind up with back-to-back years without a single draft pick. This includes both guaranteed and non-guaranteed draft picks for any organization.
In the Cavaliers’ case, their 2018 first-round pick had been their only selection from next year’s draft and their 2019 first-round pick, which is top-10 protected. That pick was sent to the Atlanta Hawks in the Kyle Korver trade last season.
That being said, Cleveland wouldn’t be able to unload both picks if desired until the night of the 2018 NBA Draft.
https://cavsnation.com/cavs-news-cleveland-able-trade-2018-first-round-pick-acquiring-nets-pick/
https://www.fearthesword.com/2017/8/23/16194104/cavaliers-ability-trade-2018-pick
Spud2nique wrote:jayu70 wrote:Spud2nique wrote:
No because they have already traded their 2019 1st top 10 protected to us! They can trade the nets pick in 2018 but not their own.
You are incorrect:Cavaliers also netted the Brooklyn Nets 2018 first-round pick. According to Bobby Marks of ESPN, this now allows for Cleveland to move their own 2018 first-round selection.
This is due in large part to the Stepien Rule that does not allow teams to wind up with back-to-back years without a single draft pick. This includes both guaranteed and non-guaranteed draft picks for any organization.
In the Cavaliers’ case, their 2018 first-round pick had been their only selection from next year’s draft and their 2019 first-round pick, which is top-10 protected. That pick was sent to the Atlanta Hawks in the Kyle Korver trade last season.
That being said, Cleveland wouldn’t be able to unload both picks if desired until the night of the 2018 NBA Draft.
https://cavsnation.com/cavs-news-cleveland-able-trade-2018-first-round-pick-acquiring-nets-pick/
https://www.fearthesword.com/2017/8/23/16194104/cavaliers-ability-trade-2018-pick
First time I've heard that.
The idea is to make sure you don't violate the Stepian rule by not having picks in consecutive years, could be yours or from another team.
jayu70 wrote:Spud2nique wrote:
First time I've heard that.
oh ok the league is worried about that huh...but a cupcake like Durant shifting the NBA balance is ok? I see. Spud2nique wrote::roll:jayu70 wrote:Spud2nique wrote:
First time I've heard that.
Spud2nique wrote:http://www.givemesport.com/1237538-is-it-possible-for-a-team-to-sign-a-player-to-too-small-of-a-contract
jayu70 wrote:Spud2nique wrote:http://www.givemesport.com/1237538-is-it-possible-for-a-team-to-sign-a-player-to-too-small-of-a-contract
Givemesports??
What's the suggested asking price for Dedmon?
What are the trade suggestions?
jayu70 wrote:jayu70 wrote:Spud2nique wrote:http://www.givemesport.com/1237538-is-it-possible-for-a-team-to-sign-a-player-to-too-small-of-a-contract
Givemesports??
What's the suggested asking price for Dedmon?
What are the trade suggestions?
This is the trade suggestion by another writer who referenced the 'givemesports article' -
Dedmon for forward DJ Wilson and guard Rashad Vaughn (UFA, Bucks declined his option). Don't know much about these two on the court.
I strolled over the the Bucks trade thread, they are interested in Dedmon, Ersan, and Beli, not only for their expirings but they can also help on the court. I want no part of Smelly, Telly, Delly or any other 'elly coming back to Atlanta without a first attached. Bucks have salary cap issues.