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2019 NBA Draft Prep

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What direction should Hawks go with their lottery picks?

Sekou Doumbouya
19
18%
Coby White
4
4%
Jaxson Hayes
9
9%
Nassir Little
5
5%
Cam Reddish
35
34%
Bol Bol
14
14%
Brandon Clarke
10
10%
Trade the picks
7
7%
 
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#1581 » by Spud2nique » Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:57 am

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King Ken wrote:I'll take Cam Reddish. Cam better than Paul George at this stage. He moves as well. He is just raw. He has star potential.


You aren't concerned about the poor shooting numbers?

No. He is raw and he isn't ready yet at this level but his potential for the NBA is next level.


I’m torn between Cam and Culver. I see a definite higher ceiling for Cam but I love the intelligence and improvising that Culver does in certain situations. Culver got that smoothness PG13 has as well. I guess I have Cam at 1 and Culver 1A.
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Post#1582 » by gurpilo » Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:16 pm

Is worth to remember that Reddish is a Freshman and Culver is a sophomore, Reddish is bigger and can play SF and Culver cannot, Reddish shooting might be off but mechanics is good. If you think we have something in Huerter Cam is the better fit for Atlanta and the player with higher potential, for me the decission is clear and if we keep 5th pick I am happy Cam is struggling because that is the chance we have to take him, if he would nit be struggling he is 3rd or 4th pick
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Post#1583 » by Spud2nique » Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:19 pm

gurpilo wrote:Is worth to remember that Reddish is a Freshman and Culver is a sophomore, Reddish is bigger and can play SF and Culver cannot, Reddish shooting might be off but mechanics is good. If you think we have something in Huerter Cam is the better fit for Atlanta and the player with higher potential, for me the decission is clear and if we keep 5th pick I am happy Cam is struggling because that is the chance we have to take him, if he would nit be struggling he is 3rd or 4th pick


Agreed possibly as high as 2! I’m not completely sold on RJ being better than Cam in the NBA. I’d grab him with our pick for sure. Good point about Culver having a year under his belt already as folks might forget that aspect.

I’m pretty elated with Cam or Culver though.
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Post#1584 » by observer1995 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:15 pm

I think Culver is closer to between 6’6”-6’7” so he’s either a big guard or potentially even a SF (since there’s a good chance he’s not close to done filling out with his body type). If you think that you can help him correct his shot even more, he can be basically what we want Bembry to be, or like…what Derrick White has flashed lol.

A secondary playmaker would absolutely fit but this is a hard eval. I think much of this draft is going to come down to workouts. If you get him in for a workout and think you can get Culver to something around a legitimate 45-47% FG/33-35% 3PT/75-78% FT down the road with your shooting coaches, then I’d like him. But at the same time if you don’t feel Reddish’s percentages are a problem after working him out, then he looks better if he reaches his upside.

I’m struggling there. If he reaches his upside, his fit is wonderful, and he was my actual favorite of the Dukies, but at the same exact time, name me a guy that has been successful in the NBA over the long haul with the percentages that he has had this season?

I think our pick, unless it shakes out to where the Hawks actually draw #1 or Barrett is available is probably going to be Reddish, Hunter, or Culver and it’ll come down to how they feel about the workouts.
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Post#1585 » by Radioblacktive1 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:29 pm

So basically it’s Culver’s current display of consistency vs Cam’s sky high ceiling. I tend to lean towards Cam’s potential and that’s mostly because my imagination runs wild. It’s like choosing between $500,000 and a mystery box. You can take the guaranteed money but there’s a chance you’re leaving an even bigger prize on the table.
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Post#1586 » by Spud2nique » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:42 pm

Radioblacktive1 wrote:So basically it’s Culver’s current display of consistency vs Cam’s sky high ceiling. I tend to lean towards Cam’s potential and that’s mostly because my imagination runs wild. It’s like choosing between $500,000 and a mystery box. You can take the guaranteed money but there’s a chance you’re leaving an even bigger prize on the table.


There’s also a chance that one of the prizes contains Marvin “duck” Williams... just sayin.
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Post#1587 » by LunchBox21 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:30 pm

Culver was better than Reddish last yr too
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Post#1588 » by CP War Hawks » Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:46 pm

gurpilo wrote:Is worth to remember that Reddish is a Freshman and Culver is a sophomore, Reddish is bigger and can play SF and Culver cannot, Reddish shooting might be off but mechanics is good. If you think we have something in Huerter Cam is the better fit for Atlanta and the player with higher potential, for me the decission is clear and if we keep 5th pick I am happy Cam is struggling because that is the chance we have to take him, if he would nit be struggling he is 3rd or 4th pick


Only six months of differnce in age. Culver is going to measure out favorably during the combine. It'll be nice if they would do a workout against each other. I trust where Schlenk decides between the two if the time comes.
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Post#1589 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:19 pm

A comparison for Cam Reddish that no one seems to be naming, but feels really spot on: Better defending, better facilitating Jayson Tatum.

For better or for worse. They have comparable builds with some overlap in game. Jayson is closer to a FT Power Forward. Cam could play SG effectively with his ball handling.

but Jayson seems a better scorer and has the bulldog mentality that Cam seems to lack.
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Post#1590 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:12 pm

I'm falling hard for Sekou Doumbouya. (Headband -- #45)

Though, I acknowledge there are some hurdles and risks drafting a young, inexperienced foreign player who barely speaks English.

He just does a bit of everything on both ends of the court. There is serious value there.

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Post#1591 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:22 pm

A HUGE hole in Ja Morant's game?

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Post#1592 » by King Ken » Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:26 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:A HUGE hole in Ja Morant's game?

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Not really, you can't keep him in front of you like Dennis.


Looking into tankathon draft past drafts, 2016 was the WOAT class

http://www.tankathon.com/past_drafts/2016
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Post#1593 » by Radioblacktive1 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:29 pm

Are we even considering Morant? What would we do with him?
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Post#1594 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:37 pm

Radioblacktive1 wrote:Are we even considering Morant? What would we do with him?



No. By all accounts, we are NOT considering him.

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Chris Kirschner wrote: I don’t think the Hawks would take Morant. I don’t think it would be a good fit for the Hawks to play these two together, so, no, I can’t see them taking Morant, and I would think he would be lower on their board than other potential top-10 picks.

The only way Morant ends up with the Hawks is if for some wild reason the team decides to trade Young, which isn’t happening.
The Athletic -- Feb

But if we snag a top-3 selection, another team might be willing to trade up with us to get Morant.


Case in point: Word is Phoenix's entire Front Office was in the stands this past weekend watching him lead Murray St to a NCAA Tourney bid.

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Post#1595 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:40 pm

Oh, boy. If they played for anyone other than Mike K, I'd blame coaching.

The hard truth -- for as talented as they clearly are -- Barrett and Reddish still just look like lost, undisciplined freshmen.

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Post#1596 » by observer1995 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:13 pm

Unfortunately you can still blame coaching. It's been said plenty, but Coach K has basically stopped coaching seriously.
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Post#1597 » by kg01 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:20 pm

observer1995 wrote:Unfortunately you can still blame coaching. It's been said plenty, but Coach K has basically stopped coaching seriously.


Yup. The only one existing more on his coaching rep than Coach(sic) K is Brad Stevens ... oh no you di'n't, oh yes I did. :)
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Post#1598 » by King Ken » Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:26 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:Culver is working today. I’m torn between him and Cam to be honest. More on Culver here.


https://heavy.com/sports/2019/03/jarrett-culver-nba-draft-texas-tech/



Very nice pull.


I dont see what you guys see. He is alike like a college Evan Turner. Even his data points mirror Evan Turner if not worse than Turner. He doesn't really pass the eye test for me. He is a good pick around 12-16 but around 5-10 with wings like Hunter and potential wings like Clarke, I can't see a scenario where drafting him in the top 10 makes sense.

https://www.thestepien.com/2019/02/06/draft-notes-realistic-jarrett-culver/
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Post#1599 » by King Ken » Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:35 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:A comparison for Cam Reddish that no one seems to be naming, but feels really spot on: Better defending, better facilitating Jayson Tatum.

For better or for worse. They have comparable builds with some overlap in game. Jayson is closer to a FT Power Forward. Cam could play SG effectively with his ball handling.

but Jayson seems a better scorer and has the bulldog mentality that Cam seems to lack.

Thanks to the data points tankathon gave us, Cam is very comparable to Paul George which is who the eye test tells us he is most like.
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Post#1600 » by EazyRoc » Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:51 pm

Y’all still rocking with Cam ? :-?

Y’all are loyal. To a fault, but loyal :lol:

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