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The Case for being extremely patient with Trae Young's development

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Re: The Case for being extremely patient with Trae Young's development 

Post#161 » by Spud2nique » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:08 pm

jayu70 wrote:^ All these articles are saying the same thing.

Since we're repeating stuff........the Hawks are building WITH Trae (and Collins) not around them. (Though I would like to see Pierce actually run plays through Collins more, or heck run an actual play for him).

Everyone keeps saying - 'The Hawks need another Star'......um yeah....we know Captain Obvious'.



This! Getting old reading same thing about Trae.
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Re: The Case for being extremely patient with Trae Young's development 

Post#162 » by Atlanta Hawk Fan » Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:03 pm

We will keep seeing the repeated content because that really is the summary for him so far and he is popular enough that people will click the articles about him even if they are just recycled.
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Re: The Case for being extremely patient with Trae Young's development 

Post#163 » by Jamaaliver » Fri Dec 14, 2018 6:07 pm

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Re: The Case for being extremely patient with Trae Young's development 

Post#164 » by jayu70 » Fri Dec 14, 2018 6:10 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:Flashes of greatness?

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Re: The Case for being extremely patient with Trae Young's development 

Post#165 » by DRKB21 » Fri Dec 14, 2018 6:34 pm

20 point, 10 assists games are good for fans who don't really understand what it takes to play winning basketball. It's the eye candy that marketing departments use to blow smoke up the fans asses.

Trae does very little that contributes to winning at this point. He HAS to become more efficient as a shooter, protect the basketball better, and do a better job on defense.

20 points, 10 assists isn't much when you take 22 shots to get that 20 points.
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Re: The Case for being extremely patient with Trae Young's development 

Post#166 » by macd-gm » Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:40 pm

24 points on 55% shooting really is sucky. Just a loser I guess. Oh and he's short. Doubles doubles are nice and all but man do i hate it when guys are short.
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Re: The Case for being extremely patient with Trae Young's development 

Post#167 » by Atlanta Hawk Fan » Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:01 pm

Young has a long road of development ahead of him but the significance of the historic numbers for me are that a lot of players have come into the league putting up numbers on bad teams and he has separated himself from the pack with some of these accomplishments. It isn't so much that he is ready to win you games now as it suggests that where he will end up after developing could be something special.
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Post#168 » by EazyRoc » Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:47 pm

The difference maker for Trae is going to be the weight room. Remember how bad Schroeder was when he came into the league at 165. Dude needs strength in the worst way. He also needs an in between game at his size. He’s been flashing a nice 10 ft floater. He needs to watch his “rival” Luka and rip his nice step back.
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Re: The Case for being extremely patient with Trae Young's development 

Post#169 » by personanongrata » Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:07 pm

macd-gm wrote:24 points on 55% shooting really is sucky. Just a loser I guess. Oh and he's short. Doubles doubles are nice and all but man do i hate it when guys are short.


You're using one game as a metric? You cant be serious.
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Re: The Case for being extremely patient with Trae Young's development 

Post#170 » by personanongrata » Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:09 pm

EazyRoc wrote:The difference maker for Trae is going to be the weight room. Remember how bad Schroeder was when he came into the league at 165. Dude needs strength in the worst way. He also needs an in between game at his size. He’s been flashing a nice 10 ft floater. He needs to watch his “rival” Luka and rip his nice step back.


He needs to start hitting shots. His three point shooting is among the worst in the NBA.
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Post#171 » by EazyRoc » Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:12 pm

His % are generally going to be bad because he takes a high volume of unassisted shots because no one on his team (coach included) creates many good easy looks. He does need to shoot better, but that’ll come with time.
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Re: The Case for being extremely patient with Trae Young's development 

Post#172 » by PG13 » Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:38 pm

He should have stayed another year or two in college to develop his game and his body. He’s basically an adolescent not ready for grown men’s game. But apparently he had chemistry problems with his college teammates so entering the draft seemed an easy decision to make.

He’s even missing open shots now, and Pierce has started shortening the leash. Honeymoon is over.
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Re: The Case for being extremely patient with Trae Young's development 

Post#173 » by PG13 » Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:41 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:Flashes of greatness?

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A young volume shooter with high usage 8-) 8-)
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Re: The Case for being extremely patient with Trae Young's development 

Post#174 » by tbhawksfan1 » Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:33 pm

I've got all the patience in the world, somtimes, but that has nothing to do with Trae not being the best player in last draft
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Re: The Case for being extremely patient with Trae Young's development 

Post#175 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:32 pm

Trae Young's Passing Ability Will Keep Him Productive Regardless of Scoring

Few players in the 2018 rookie class are judged as harshly on a daily basis as Young. He has had good games, but he has been questioned for his inconsistency and whether or not his positive moments are sustainable.

The complaints have been especially loud in December, with the guard shooting just 37.3 percent from the field and 17.4 percent from three in his first five games of the month.

Young looked better as a scorer against the Nets, but still didn't have his best day while finishing 4-of-10 from the field.

Still, the 20-year-old can make up for his inconsistent shooting by being a reliable playmaker leading the offense. This is what he did well Sunday, totaling 10 assists with only three turnovers.

When he drew extra attention from defenses, as he will do often in his career, he made sure to find the open man instead of forcing his own shot:

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Kevin Chouinard of ATL and 29 broke down his contributions during the first half:

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This helped the offense flow well whenever he was on the court, helping the rookie finish a respectable minus-seven on the court despite the 17-point loss.

Unless your name is Stephen Curry, you will have some off shooting nights. But Young can make up for it by not forcing looks and helping run the offense.

If he can do that and the Hawks eventually add more talent, he could be the franchise player Atlanta wants him to become.
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Re: The Case for being extremely patient with Trae Young's development 

Post#176 » by macd-gm » Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:57 pm

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macd-gm wrote:24 points on 55% shooting really is sucky. Just a loser I guess. Oh and he's short. Doubles doubles are nice and all but man do i hate it when guys are short.


You're using one game as a metric? You cant be serious.


I was responding to the notion put forth that his double double was empty stats and hid the fact that he in general sucks (paraphrasing).
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Re: The Case for being extremely patient with Trae Young's development 

Post#177 » by pssshhhrrr87 » Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:18 pm

DRKB21 wrote:20 point, 10 assists games are good for fans who don't really understand what it takes to play winning basketball. It's the eye candy that marketing departments use to blow smoke up the fans asses.

Trae does very little that contributes to winning at this point. He HAS to become more efficient as a shooter, protect the basketball better, and do a better job on defense.

20 points, 10 assists isn't much when you take 22 shots to get that 20 points.


...except he shot 58% in this game. I'll take that and 38% on the year out of my rookie PG all day.
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Re: The Case for being extremely patient with Trae Young's development 

Post#178 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:54 pm

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The team brought in a bright new face, too, and it belongs to Trae Young. In this rebuilding season—literally and figuratively—the super-gifted kid out of Norman, OK, is going to be responsible for some fun times around the gym. But he’s 20 and hasn’t met a 30-footer he doesn’t like, so there are destined to be a few frustrating moments as well. The Hawks know this. They only hope that the energy the fans show in the stands after a dope crossover doesn’t completely dissipate after a dumb turnover.

The whole organization knows what Trae means.

According to many reports, Trae was the guy that Atlanta wanted from jump—so, when the Draft came, the franchise had no problem with trading its No. 3 pick to the Dallas Mavericks in exchange for the No. 5 selection and a future first-rounder. The Mavs took Luka Doncic with the third choice.

But even with the highs and lows that will define Young’s rookie season, the 20-year-old has been exactly what the Hawks organization has asked for thus far. He’s scoring, passing and generally getting folks around Atlanta energized about basketball again.

Young will have a few more uneven games, fueling the “Doncic was the better pick” narrative further. But if we’ve learned anything from watching this kid over the past year or so, it’s that if Trae keeps being Trae, he’ll have the final say.

“I always play with that chip on my shoulder, that lil’ nastiness,” he said. “I just play and compete.”

While always keeping that same energy.
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Re: The Case for being extremely patient with Trae Young's development 

Post#179 » by CP War Hawks » Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:03 am

PG13 wrote:He should have stayed another year or two in college to develop his game and his body. He’s basically an adolescent not ready for grown men’s game. But apparently he had chemistry problems with his college teammates so entering the draft seemed an easy decision to make.

He’s even missing open shots now, and Pierce has started shortening the leash. Honeymoon is over.


I'm about 1000% sure him being a top 5 lock had meant more for him declaring than problems with some college players from a football school.

The talent is undeniable, he just has to play smarter. He has to hit those weights in the offseason if he's serious about getting better. An elite wing and WCS tier center would help cover his shortcomings on defense.
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Re: The Case for being extremely patient with Trae Young's development 

Post#180 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Dec 18, 2018 2:38 pm

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