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Geaux_Hawks wrote:Jamaaliver wrote:My larger point is simply, as an asset, Capela's trade value will likely peak in the next 12 months. With him, we're a good team but not a contender. But if we can get a valuable asset in return, we can flip that asset at a later time.Spoiler:
I don't believe Capela is off limits at all. I just think if you're going to trade him, it should be more along the lines of acquiring someone like Ayton to replace him.
Zubac is doable, and having Covington and Kennard off the bench would help a lot. I just don't know if it is enough to trade Capela.
The Portland deal is just not something we should be looking at imo though. So even though I understand you're looking at what would be equivalent to Capela in terms of value, roster construction should be considered.
An interesting idea I came up with while evaluating the LAC deal, what would be the interest in trading Collins+ filler salary(Justin Holiday) for Covington or Morris, and Kennard? Get a journeyman stop gap to play the 4 and add a legit knockdown shooter in Kennard. Improves depth also.
Jamaaliver wrote:Trade idea from The Athletic based on rumors around the league --
Slim Charless wrote:Geaux_Hawks wrote:Jamaaliver wrote:My larger point is simply, as an asset, Capela's trade value will likely peak in the next 12 months. With him, we're a good team but not a contender. But if we can get a valuable asset in return, we can flip that asset at a later time.Spoiler:
I don't believe Capela is off limits at all. I just think if you're going to trade him, it should be more along the lines of acquiring someone like Ayton to replace him.
Zubac is doable, and having Covington and Kennard off the bench would help a lot. I just don't know if it is enough to trade Capela.
The Portland deal is just not something we should be looking at imo though. So even though I understand you're looking at what would be equivalent to Capela in terms of value, roster construction should be considered.
An interesting idea I came up with while evaluating the LAC deal, what would be the interest in trading Collins+ filler salary(Justin Holiday) for Covington or Morris, and Kennard? Get a journeyman stop gap to play the 4 and add a legit knockdown shooter in Kennard. Improves depth also.
Would you guys do Ayton and Cam Johnson for Capela and Collins? I think those 2 would fit your team pretty well as shooting is needed and Ayton is a much more offensive big to balance out for your guards.
Slim Charless wrote:Geaux_Hawks wrote:Jamaaliver wrote:My larger point is simply, as an asset, Capela's trade value will likely peak in the next 12 months. With him, we're a good team but not a contender. But if we can get a valuable asset in return, we can flip that asset at a later time.Spoiler:
I don't believe Capela is off limits at all. I just think if you're going to trade him, it should be more along the lines of acquiring someone like Ayton to replace him.
Zubac is doable, and having Covington and Kennard off the bench would help a lot. I just don't know if it is enough to trade Capela.
The Portland deal is just not something we should be looking at imo though. So even though I understand you're looking at what would be equivalent to Capela in terms of value, roster construction should be considered.
An interesting idea I came up with while evaluating the LAC deal, what would be the interest in trading Collins+ filler salary(Justin Holiday) for Covington or Morris, and Kennard? Get a journeyman stop gap to play the 4 and add a legit knockdown shooter in Kennard. Improves depth also.
Would you guys do Ayton and Cam Johnson for Capela and Collins? I think those 2 would fit your team pretty well as shooting is needed and Ayton is a much more offensive big to balance out for your guards.
Jamaaliver wrote:Trade idea from The Athletic based on rumors around the league --
This isn't terrible. It clears up our cap mess for next year, gives guard depth and a veteran, starting PF for this year's playoff run.
And that 2027 draft pick via Brooklyn could be really high in a year when we won't have our own due to the DeJounte Murray trade. I'd have to consider this based on the realities of finances, asset management and team building.
dms269 wrote:Jamaaliver wrote:Trade idea from The Athletic based on rumors around the league --
This isn't terrible. It clears up our cap mess for next year, gives guard depth and a veteran, starting PF for this year's playoff run.
And that 2027 draft pick via Brooklyn could be really high in a year when we won't have our own due to the DeJounte Murray trade. I'd have to consider this based on the realities of finances, asset management and team building.
Am I the only one who is hesitant about bringing in crowder and expecting him to start at PF? He hasn't played at all this year despite being healthy. Him holding out because he doesn't like his role rubs me the wrong way.
CP War Hawks wrote:Slim Charless wrote:Geaux_Hawks wrote:
I don't believe Capela is off limits at all. I just think if you're going to trade him, it should be more along the lines of acquiring someone like Ayton to replace him.
Zubac is doable, and having Covington and Kennard off the bench would help a lot. I just don't know if it is enough to trade Capela.
The Portland deal is just not something we should be looking at imo though. So even though I understand you're looking at what would be equivalent to Capela in terms of value, roster construction should be considered.
An interesting idea I came up with while evaluating the LAC deal, what would be the interest in trading Collins+ filler salary(Justin Holiday) for Covington or Morris, and Kennard? Get a journeyman stop gap to play the 4 and add a legit knockdown shooter in Kennard. Improves depth also.
Would you guys do Ayton and Cam Johnson for Capela and Collins? I think those 2 would fit your team pretty well as shooting is needed and Ayton is a much more offensive big to balance out for your guards.
Why would Phx do this. I guess yall would choose the coach over Ayton. Cam has been playing great after coming back from injury, should've been the pick over Reddish.
Jamaaliver wrote:
A starting PF for this year, a backup combo guard for next year.
And a solid draft pick in a year we won't have one at all....
Thoughts?
leo7 wrote:I wish the Hawks would've kept tanking after 2020 and tried to build through the draft more. I think rushing to build a playoff team really set this franchise back.
leo7 wrote:I wish the Hawks would've kept tanking after 2020 and tried to build through the draft more. I think rushing to build a playoff team really set this franchise back.
Salary wise something has to happen. The logical choices are either Bogi (who opts in) or JC.POLI wrote:Hello everyone.
Back after 2/3 months of battling with the management of this site after being banned for just saying what everybody knows: there is a certain group of people in the world that controls everything, including the NBA and this site (I would not go further, as I want to at least enjoy this tradeline...).
I would also be very dissapointed if we end up with Crowder as our starting PF.
Collins is a much better player, although it is true that Crowder is a player whom coaches like.
He defends, do the little things... but he is not athletic, cannot run, cannot dribble and gets into erratic shooting games quite often. He is unable to block shots, does not rebound well (because his height is more the height of a SF or SG) and is too heavy to be quick with his feet, although one has to say that he is a good complement player.
So he could be useful for Miami, who lost Tucker. For the Bucks, as he can play alongside Giannis or even with Giannis and López or Portis.
For me, our needs should be more in finding a 4th big man who can give us a deeper rotation out of Capela-Collins-Okongu, which I believe lacks shooting abilities and height (as a group, not just Okongu).
After that, I like what our roster looks like. Young, Murray, Bogdanovic, Griffin and Hunter are a good group of players. Theoretically they have all the tools and play all the positions to be an excellent group. May be we lack a little bit of size and finding a SF who can complement Hunter would be great. May be someone who can play SF and PF, although that is a very rara case in the league...