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Re: Hawks Trade Scenarios For Jeff Teague 

Post#21 » by SD2042 » Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:52 pm

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azuresou1 wrote:'Certain events' being we sign CP3?

Even if we do, unless we get good value for Teague, we should still resign him. Under the QO system, we can pretty much force a S&T to a team that would really want him.



Although I'm late to this thread. The Hawks actually had the opportunity to draft CP3 yrs ago, but elected to go with Sheldon "The Landlord" Williams. :nonono: Never understood that to this very day. :crazy:

Marvin Williams. And it's because our GM at the time, Billy Knight, loved Marvin's versatility as a 6'7 player who could "do it all." He also thought that CP3 was "too small." It's no surprise that he's no longer in a decision making role anywhere else in the NBA.


Sheldon was one year later. You're right. And ATL with those back to back screw ups. Anyways, it was surprising that Billy Knight made those moves considering who was available at the time. Especially in the 2005 draft. When he was with the Grizzlies both Vancouver/Memphis transition, he actually did pretty good given the cards he was dealt with at the time. Then later in 2002 he was mysteriously let go in favor of Jerry West, who I think was in the mist of retiring at the time. West did his work with the Grizzlies in retooling the roster and got the Executive of the Year award. One negative I had on him at the time was his lack of ability to draft players. His bread and butter was trades and FA signings more than anything.
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Re: Hawks Trade Scenarios For Jeff Teague 

Post#22 » by A_Train005 » Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:02 pm

The only articles I've seen have NY as a potential landing spot for Teague, but what could they give up?? They won't move Kristaps or Melo and no one else on that team is worth a damn. Where could he go??
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Re: Hawks Trade Scenarios For Jeff Teague 

Post#23 » by jayu70 » Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:33 pm

The Knicks do not have what we need. They'll have to get a 3rd team involved.
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Re: Hawks Trade Scenarios For Jeff Teague 

Post#24 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:15 pm

^^

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Afflalo, maybe? Though, admittedly, that would be a pretty low sell on Teague...
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Re: Hawks Trade Scenarios For Jeff Teague 

Post#25 » by bdpecore » Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:30 pm

Milwaukee could use a PG like Teague. Not sure what assets they have that ATL would be interested in. I'm sure Giannis, Parker, Middleton and Monroe would be off the table. So some combination of MCW, Vaughn, Henson, Bayless, Mayo, Inglis, O'Bryant, Plumlee and picks would have to work. Suggestions/thoughts?
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Re: Hawks Trade Scenarios For Jeff Teague 

Post#26 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:34 pm

jayu70 wrote:The Knicks do not have what we need. They'll have to get a 3rd team involved.


Several executives have labeled the Knicks’ trade assets as underwhelming.

  • If the Knicks want to include a first-round pick in a trade, their earliest trade-eligible pick is in 2018.
  • New York also has a glut of big men, so Kevin Seraphin and Kyle O’Quinn may be available.
  • The Knicks could also offer second-year guard Langston Galloway or rookie guard Jerian Grant
  • Two players who could draw interest as trade chips: Arron Afflalo and Derrick Williams.

Obtaining Williams or Afflalo would present an interesting prospect for Atlanta. Both players have a player option for 2016-17, so if the Hawks believe that Afflalo and Williams will opt out, trading for them would essentially be trading for an expiring contract.
Expiring deals are valuable for teams looking to rebuild through free agency.
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Re: Hawks Trade Scenarios For Jeff Teague 

Post#27 » by fuzzy1 » Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:24 pm

bdpecore wrote:Milwaukee could use a PG like Teague. Not sure what assets they have that ATL would be interested in. I'm sure Giannis, Parker, Middleton and Monroe would be off the table. So some combination of MCW, Vaughn, Henson, Bayless, Mayo, Inglis, O'Bryant, Plumlee and picks would have to work. Suggestions/thoughts?


Not happening without one of those wings I think. Maybe a bunch of picks could do it but I doubt it.
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Re: Hawks Trade Scenarios For Jeff Teague 

Post#28 » by Dantares » Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:27 pm

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jayu70 wrote:The Knicks do not have what we need. They'll have to get a 3rd team involved.


Several executives have labeled the Knicks’ trade assets as underwhelming.

  • If the Knicks want to include a first-round pick in a trade, their earliest trade-eligible pick is in 2018.
  • New York also has a glut of big men, so Kevin Seraphin and Kyle O’Quinn may be available.
  • The Knicks could also offer second-year guard Langston Galloway or rookie guard Jerian Grant
  • Two players who could draw interest as trade chips: Arron Afflalo and Derrick Williams.

Obtaining Williams or Afflalo would present an interesting prospect for Atlanta. Both players have a player option for 2016-17, so if the Hawks believe that Afflalo and Williams will opt out, trading for them would essentially be trading for an expiring contract.
Expiring deals are valuable for teams looking to rebuild through free agency.
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Would 2 lottery protected picks be enough value for teague? Knicks could move jerian grant for a 2016 pick and the knicks could give up their own 2018 pick. I know the celtics only got 1 pick for rondo in the dallas trade so I'm thinking this could be pretty fair value.
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Re: Hawks Trade Scenarios For Jeff Teague 

Post#29 » by bdpecore » Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:31 pm

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bdpecore wrote:Milwaukee could use a PG like Teague. Not sure what assets they have that ATL would be interested in. I'm sure Giannis, Parker, Middleton and Monroe would be off the table. So some combination of MCW, Vaughn, Henson, Bayless, Mayo, Inglis, O'Bryant, Plumlee and picks would have to work. Suggestions/thoughts?


Not happening without one of those wings I think. Maybe a bunch of picks could do it but I doubt it.

Unfortunately, including one of our wings would be an overpay meaning the Hawks would have to include more value. What about Parker and Vaughn for Teague and Bazemore?
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Re: Hawks Trade Scenarios For Jeff Teague 

Post#30 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:32 pm

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Several executives have labeled the Knicks’ trade assets as underwhelming.

  • If the Knicks want to include a first-round pick in a trade, their earliest trade-eligible pick is in 2018
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Would 2 lottery protected picks be enough value for teague? Knicks could move jerian grant for a 2016 pick and the knicks could give up their own 2018 pick. I know the celtics only got 1 pick for rondo so I'm thinking this could be pretty fair value.


Ideally...no.

But you'd have our attention at the very least. The word is our front office is still hoping for a solid playoff showing (though there are whispers of the dreaded 'reboot' being considered). If we are still hoping to make a deep post-season run, I imagine we'd be looking for a 3-point shooting swingman to add to this year's rotation.

But two solid draft picks isn't the worst offer I've read today.
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Re: Hawks Trade Scenarios For Jeff Teague 

Post#31 » by fuzzy1 » Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:41 pm

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bdpecore wrote:Milwaukee could use a PG like Teague. Not sure what assets they have that ATL would be interested in. I'm sure Giannis, Parker, Middleton and Monroe would be off the table. So some combination of MCW, Vaughn, Henson, Bayless, Mayo, Inglis, O'Bryant, Plumlee and picks would have to work. Suggestions/thoughts?


Not happening without one of those wings I think. Maybe a bunch of picks could do it but I doubt it.

Unfortunately, including one of our wings would be an overpay meaning the Hawks would have to include more value. What about Parker and Vaughn for Teague and Bazemore?


Warmer, but we don't want to give up Bazemore. Straight up Teague for Parker, OR possibly a deal centered around Schroeder for Parker are possibilities. If not we'd probably look elsewhere or just keep him. Do you have any contracts you hate?
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Re: Hawks Trade Scenarios For Jeff Teague 

Post#32 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:47 pm

bdpecore wrote:Unfortunately, including one of our wings would be an overpay meaning the Hawks would have to include more value. What about Parker and Vaughn for Teague and Bazemore?


You include Jabari Parker in trade talks...we'll throw in Bazemore and a future draft pick, too!!!
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Re: Hawks Trade Scenarios For Jeff Teague 

Post#33 » by bdpecore » Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:47 pm

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Not happening without one of those wings I think. Maybe a bunch of picks could do it but I doubt it.

Unfortunately, including one of our wings would be an overpay meaning the Hawks would have to include more value. What about Parker and Vaughn for Teague and Bazemore?


Warmer, but we don't want to give up Bazemore. Straight up Teague for Parker, OR possibly a deal centered around Schroeder for Parker are possibilities. If not we'd probably look elsewhere or just keep him. Do you have any contracts you hate?

Not really. Everything we have is expiring or fair value. Maybe Parker and Bayless for Teague and Sefolosha. We could us another shooter next season and you will need a back up PG who can shoot.
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Post#34 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:52 pm

bdpecore wrote:Not really. Everything we have is expiring or fair value. Maybe Parker and Bayless for Teague and Sefolosha. We could us another shooter next season and you will need a back up PG who can shoot.


You include Jabari Parker...

We'll include Thabo, Bazemore, Korver...whatever you guys need to make it happen.


We're not turning down a young player of that caliber over a guy we pulled off the street.
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Post#35 » by bdpecore » Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:55 pm

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bdpecore wrote:Not really. Everything we have is expiring or fair value. Maybe Parker and Bayless for Teague and Sefolosha. We could us another shooter next season and you will need a back up PG who can shoot.


You include Jabari Parker...

We'll include Thabo, Bazemore, Korver...whatever you guys need to make it happen.


We're not turning down a young player of that caliber over a guy we pulled off the street.

So you would pull the trigger on a Parker and Mayo (to make the salaries fit) for Teague, Bazemore and Thabo swap?
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Re: Hawks Trade Scenarios For Jeff Teague 

Post#36 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:59 pm

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bdpecore wrote:Not really. Everything we have is expiring or fair value. Maybe Parker and Bayless for Teague and Sefolosha. We could us another shooter next season and you will need a back up PG who can shoot.


You include Jabari Parker...

We'll include Thabo, Bazemore, Korver...whatever you guys need to make it happen.


We're not turning down a young player of that caliber over a guy we pulled off the street.

So you would pull the trigger on a Parker and Mayo (to make the salaries fit) for Teague, Bazemore and Thabo swap?



Mayo?!? :confused: :blank: :sad:

:gossip:


We'd have to think long and hard about it...I'll put it that way. But this is probably the most beneficial trade I've heard all day...for both teams.
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Post#37 » by fuzzy1 » Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:18 pm

bdpecore wrote:
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bdpecore wrote:Unfortunately, including one of our wings would be an overpay meaning the Hawks would have to include more value. What about Parker and Vaughn for Teague and Bazemore?


Warmer, but we don't want to give up Bazemore. Straight up Teague for Parker, OR possibly a deal centered around Schroeder for Parker are possibilities. If not we'd probably look elsewhere or just keep him. Do you have any contracts you hate?

Not really. Everything we have is expiring or fair value. Maybe Parker and Bayless for Teague and Sefolosha. We could us another shooter next season and you will need a back up PG who can shoot.


Hmmmmmmmmm. IMO, Teague + a pick or two (we have a T'Wolves pick) would be ideal for us. I think we'd REALLY like to upgrade our wing situation rather than keep it level, and also I'll say this about Bazemore: he's a FA with only Early Bird rights, so no offense to Milwaukee but I think you might have trouble retaining him because everybody can offer him basically the same amount (I think).

I won't go as far as Jamaaliver here when it comes to Parker, though I think he's about the best we could get so I'm really not trying to sell you guys short.
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Re: Hawks Trade Scenarios For Jeff Teague 

Post#38 » by bdpecore » Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:19 pm

[quote="Jamaaliver"][quote="bdpecore"][quote="Jamaaliver"]

You include Jabari Parker...

We'll include Thabo, Bazemore, Korver...whatever you guys need to make it happen.


We're not turning down a young player of that caliber over a guy we pulled off the street.[/quote]
So you would pull the trigger on a Parker and Mayo (to make the salaries fit) for Teague, Bazemore and Thabo swap?[/quote]


Mayo?!? :confused: :blank: :sad:

:gossip:


We'd have to think long and hard about it...I'll put it that way. But this is probably the most beneficial trade I've heard all day...for both teams.[/quote]
He is more or less an expiring contract. Maybe Inglis or a 2nd could be added to sweeten the pot. I agree it seems to work well for both parties.
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Post#39 » by Skyhawk1 » Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:21 am

I'd target G. Hayward. Teague + 1st round ( we never know what to do with our picks anyway) for Hayward.
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Post#40 » by ATL Boy » Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:32 am

bdpecore wrote:
fuzzy1 wrote:
bdpecore wrote:Milwaukee could use a PG like Teague. Not sure what assets they have that ATL would be interested in. I'm sure Giannis, Parker, Middleton and Monroe would be off the table. So some combination of MCW, Vaughn, Henson, Bayless, Mayo, Inglis, O'Bryant, Plumlee and picks would have to work. Suggestions/thoughts?


Not happening without one of those wings I think. Maybe a bunch of picks could do it but I doubt it.

Unfortunately, including one of our wings would be an overpay meaning the Hawks would have to include more value. What about Parker and Vaughn for Teague and Bazemore?

The answer is yes, id do this trade in a heartbeat. Jabari in Coach Bud's system would be something to drool over.
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