When will Trae be as good as Doncic?

[Jamaaliver]

What's the point of comparing them now? Last i checked neither has done much of real importance in this league.

Let's not get carried away.

Doncic is already a pretty important player in the league and arguably a top-20 player.





But i agree this thread is bait, and it's premature unnecessary to continue comparing the two players.

[Sultanofatl]

When? Never be better than Doncic. Why because Doncic is legend. He has more pro experience, better market, coaching, team. If the tables were turned and Trae was the mystery european on the Mavs and Luka was the American on the Hawks it would be Luka who could never match Trae. The Mavs are trying to win, have a title and respect. The Hawks are just even the Hawks. Luka would have struggled here. If not Trae some other rookie would be rookie of the year.

[macd-gm]

What's the point of comparing them now? Last i checked neither has done much of real importance in this league.

Let's not get carried away.

Doncic is already a pretty important player in the league and arguably a top-20 player.





But i agree this thread is bait, and it's premature unnecessary to continue comparing the two players.

I guess. What do you mean by important?

[Jamaaliver]

What's the point of comparing them now? Last i checked neither has done much of real importance in this league.

Let's not get carried away.

Doncic is already a pretty important player in the league and arguably a top-20 player.

I guess. What do you mean by important?

His presence in the NBA is significant. Both for his on court achievements as well as breaking stereotypes about Euro players. He's single-handedly expanded the NBAs fanbase and has actually lived up to exceeded expectations as a first year NBAer.


He is one of the most important players in the NBA. Akin to Dirk/Yao/Manu. He drives TV numbers in this country and abroad; he is already building a resume as a rookie that is uber impressive.


Luka's a big deal. It's okay to say.
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Separately from that, Trae has been solid...ish. And he looks better today than a month ago. We're still on pace to build a super team through the draft. Something that would be unlikely with Luka onboard.

[Spud2nique]

I was the biggest Luka fan and supporter of drafting him. He’s obviously good. I just don’t understand what people aren’t understanding. WE KNEW LUKA WOULD BE BETTER THAN TRAE IN YEAR 1! Everybody did. Schlenk included.

I’m having some issues with a couple of things regarding Luka. The refs give him calls like he’s a 10 year vet. What’s with that? I mean, why?

Luka hype is real. Obviously international money making is something the the NBA has been aiming for forever. It brings in money. Petro..Vlade..Dirk...peja..Yao...Luka...it’s understandable but annoying.

Trade cannot be judged until year 3 when each player has come into their own and our Mavs pick has a year under his belt. We are going to good. We chose a different path than Luka. For me, in the end it’s all about rings. If Trae wins a ring with us before Luka, that’s all that matter to me. I want 1. Just give me 1 ring.

[macd-gm]

Luka's presence in the NBA being a positive thing for the league is great. That's all good with me and i'm not trying to belittle it. But claiming either guy has accomplished much in terms of basketball is hyperbole. Luka is playing great and could have a really fantastic rookie season when it's all said and done. But let's look objectively not through the lens of "oh i can't believe we could have had this guy".

[Spud2nique]

One more thing. It seems Luka isn’t getting the normal rookie haze..Trae is paying his dues..I’m just saying, you have to go through the stages to become great. Not saying Luka won’t be, just saying he’s a step skipper...he’s skipping steps. Even if it’s a minor step like carrying a pink Dora the explorer backpack. I mean, kg carries one daily and we still love him.

[Spud2nique]

Luka's presence in the NBA being a positive thing for the league is great. That's all good with me and i'm not trying to belittle it. But claiming either guy has accomplished much in terms of basketball is hyperbole. Luka is playing great and could have a really fantastic rookie season when it's all said and done. But let's look objectively not through the lens of "oh i can't believe we could have had this guy".

Agreed. I’m not saying DeAndre Jordan is great but if you pair DeAndre with Trae...Trae might be averaging another 1-1.5 dimes per. Luka has better players around him and he’s had pro European experience. Trae’s just learning the game. Give him time people he’s gonna be great. Trae is a guy that has gotten knocked down a million times in his life and gotten up. Nothing will change his mental makeup.

One more thing, Marvin never had heart.

[tbhawksfan1]

Let's not get carried away.

Doncic is already a pretty important player in the league and arguably a top-20 player.

I guess. What do you mean by important?

His presence in the NBA is significant. Both for his on court achievements as well as breaking stereotypes about Euro players. He's single-handedly expanded the NBAs fanbase and has actually lived up to exceeded expectations as a first year NBAer.


He is one of the most important players in the NBA. Akin to Dirk/Yao/Manu. He drives TV numbers in this country and abroad; he is already building a resume as a rookie that is uber impressive.


Luka's a big deal. It's okay to say.
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Separately from that, Trae has been solid...ish. And he looks better today than a month ago. We're still on pace to build a super team through the draft. Something that would be unlikely with Luka onboard.

Agree with everything except "We're still on pace to build a super team through the draft. Something that would be unlikely with Luka onboard"

You don't build trough the draft by trading out of the best player in the draft

[dms269]

#1: This thread will stay open as long as it doesn't end up like the other one where it was a post about Luka's game by game stats and how great he is and so forth.
#2: Is anyone truly surprised that Luka is putting up better stats? The more experienced player on a better team with better players is putting up better stats. Like someone said earlier, switch their roles and I bet Luka is struggling on this team.
#3: Trae has a higher ceiling. He is undersized and is likely never going a stud defender, but as he gets better teammates he will be better overall. He won't have to force shots and his passing will only get better.

Luka is good, but are we really saying he is the GOAT after 1/3 of his rookie season?

[graymule]

NEVER! Doncic, the second coming of King James, is leading his team to the playoffs this season and Dallas will naturally
win it all for the next twenty years.

Well, something like this any way.

Meanwhile, all Hawks players are and will be only scrubs. Question: Which team is your favorite now?



GO ATL HAWKS !! I believe even if I am alone in my fandom!!

[Spud2nique]

#1: This thread will stay open as long as it doesn't end up like the other one where it was a post about Luka's game by game stats and how great he is and so forth.
#2: Is anyone truly surprised that Luka is putting up better stats? The more experienced player on a better team with better players is putting up better stats. Like someone said earlier, switch their roles and I bet Luka is struggling on this team.
#3: Trae has a higher ceiling. He is undersized and is likely never going a stud defender, but as he gets better teammates he will be better overall. He won't have to force shots and his passing will only get better.

Luka is good, but are we really saying he is the GOAT after 1/3 of his rookie season?

Just a question, are you a mod for the Mavs board as well? Just wondering if it’s ok to go to their board and open a Trae discussion? Like maybe, which rookie has a higher ceiling? I didn’t wanna go over there and get banned. Lol

[atlantabbq99]

#1: This thread will stay open as long as it doesn't end up like the other one where it was a post about Luka's game by game stats and how great he is and so forth.
#2: Is anyone truly surprised that Luka is putting up better stats? The more experienced player on a better team with better players is putting up better stats. Like someone said earlier, switch their roles and I bet Luka is struggling on this team.
#3: Trae has a higher ceiling. He is undersized and is likely never going a stud defender, but as he gets better teammates he will be better overall. He won't have to force shots and his passing will only get better.

Luka is good, but are we really saying he is the GOAT after 1/3 of his rookie season?

This is just really dumb. Better teammates better play??? This applies to anybody. If Luka gets the same quality teammates, he would do better, that is how talent works.

[Archx]

#1: This thread will stay open as long as it doesn't end up like the other one where it was a post about Luka's game by game stats and how great he is and so forth.
#2: Is anyone truly surprised that Luka is putting up better stats? The more experienced player on a better team with better players is putting up better stats. Like someone said earlier, switch their roles and I bet Luka is struggling on this team.
#3: Trae has a higher ceiling. He is undersized and is likely never going a stud defender, but as he gets better teammates he will be better overall. He won't have to force shots and his passing will only get better.

Luka is good, but are we really saying he is the GOAT after 1/3 of his rookie season?

Just a question, are you a mod for the Mavs board as well? Just wondering if it’s ok to go to their board and open a Trae discussion? Like maybe, which rookie has a higher ceiling? I didn’t wanna go over there and get banned. Lol

I think you would get a productive discussion out of that thread. But it's obvious in which direction it would go, probably similar like here

I’m having some issues with a couple of things regarding Luka. The refs give him calls like he’s a 10 year vet. What’s with that? I mean, why?

If you watched every Mavs game, like from the start till' now, you'd be saying, how come he isn't getting even more calls. He got a busted lip against NO and got no call. This guy got smacked, pushed, pulled, thrown to the ground more than anyone probably early on. He got 2 hip injuries a couple of twisted ankles, banged up elbow and a knee. I think he deserves all the calls he is FINALLY getting. It has gotten to the point that people started worrying if he'll get seriously injured from all the beating he was receiving in some of the early games.

[marco102]

#1: This thread will stay open as long as it doesn't end up like the other one where it was a post about Luka's game by game stats and how great he is and so forth.
#2: Is anyone truly surprised that Luka is putting up better stats? The more experienced player on a better team with better players is putting up better stats. Like someone said earlier, switch their roles and I bet Luka is struggling on this team.
#3: Trae has a higher ceiling. He is undersized and is likely never going a stud defender, but as he gets better teammates he will be better overall. He won't have to force shots and his passing will only get better.

Luka is good, but are we really saying he is the GOAT after 1/3 of his rookie season?

Just a question, are you a mod for the Mavs board as well? Just wondering if it’s ok to go to their board and open a Trae discussion? Like maybe, which rookie has a higher ceiling? I didn’t wanna go over there and get banned. Lol

I think you would get a productive discussion out of that thread. But it's obvious in which direction it would go, probably similar like here

I’m having some issues with a couple of things regarding Luka. The refs give him calls like he’s a 10 year vet. What’s with that? I mean, why?

If you watched every Mavs game, like from the start till' now, you'd be saying, how come he isn't getting even more calls. He got a busted lip against NO and got no call. This guy got smacked, pushed, pulled, thrown to the ground more than anyone probably early on. He got 2 hip injuries a couple of twisted ankles, banged up elbow and a knee. I think he deserves all the calls he is FINALLY getting. It has gotten to the point that people started worrying if he'll get seriously injured from all the beating he was receiving in some of the early games.

I've watched plenty of mavs games. The mavs have the highest free throw disparity in the league. It's not just about Luka either. Aot of his free throw attempts are due to his team being in the penalty and him getting a hand check file sending him to the line..etc. Not saying he doesn't deserve the calls, but it's not him creating stuff going to the basket and getting a file.

[Archx]

Just a question, are you a mod for the Mavs board as well? Just wondering if it’s ok to go to their board and open a Trae discussion? Like maybe, which rookie has a higher ceiling? I didn’t wanna go over there and get banned. Lol

I think you would get a productive discussion out of that thread. But it's obvious in which direction it would go, probably similar like here

I’m having some issues with a couple of things regarding Luka. The refs give him calls like he’s a 10 year vet. What’s with that? I mean, why?

If you watched every Mavs game, like from the start till' now, you'd be saying, how come he isn't getting even more calls. He got a busted lip against NO and got no call. This guy got smacked, pushed, pulled, thrown to the ground more than anyone probably early on. He got 2 hip injuries a couple of twisted ankles, banged up elbow and a knee. I think he deserves all the calls he is FINALLY getting. It has gotten to the point that people started worrying if he'll get seriously injured from all the beating he was receiving in some of the early games.

I've watched plenty of mavs games. The mavs have the highest free throw disparity in the league. It's not just about Luka either. Aot of his free throw attempts are due to his team being in the penalty and him getting a hand check file sending him to the line..etc. Not saying he doesn't deserve the calls, but it's not him creating stuff going to the basket and getting a file.

Then you need to watch more closely ... At the end of the day, foul is a foul and he is a master at drawing fouls. He played like this in Euroleague as well.

[High 5]

If you're waiting on Trae to be as good as Doncic then you may be waiting forever. That's why Dallas is sending us a pick. The important thing now is for Trae to be good enough in combination with our current and future talent that we become contenders in time.

[HMFFL]

The thing that worries me is that scoring does not easy come easy for Trae, he has to really work for his points. Doncic looks like scoring comes easy for him. They are both natural passers however. I think Trae will have a triple double at some point if he hustles on boards.

Scoring does come easy for Doncic. Maybe NBA players, young and veterans, said that Doncic would become a star at the NBA level. Others said he would be a boarderline all-star or have a long NBA career.

My issue with Trae is his shooting because it's not consistent. I have no idea what Trae will step on the court each night.

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[marco102]

The thing that worries me is that scoring does not easy come easy for Trae, he has to really work for his points. Doncic looks like scoring comes easy for him. They are both natural passers however. I think Trae will have a triple double at some point if he hustles on boards.

Scoring does come easy for Doncic. Maybe NBA players, young and veterans, said that Doncic would become a star at the NBA level. Others said he would be a boarderline all-star or have a long NBA career.

My issue with Trae is his shooting because it's not consistent. I have no idea what Trae will step on the court each night.

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But isn't that typical of most rookies? They are generally inconsistent especially one and dones. I think the problem with most is that Doncic's scoring is pretty consistent and that's what they are comparing to Trae. Doncic is an anomaly when it comes to rookies ( I need to add that Doncic's shooting percentages are dropping). I'm not saying Trae should be shooting 38% and 25% from three because that's atrocious any way you try to spin it.

I think the biggest problem with Trae was the November schedule. The Hawks played every other day in November and mostly against playoff teams. He faced tough defenses without much practice. In December, he's shown improvement. Hopefully, January he will shoot about 42% overall and 35% from three. I'll be really encouraged then.

[tbhawksfan1]

24th in strength of schedule, not so bad