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atlantabbq99 wrote:
He is a poor man's Luka. Above average handles, play making and passing, but below average shooting
On film he looks alittle on the slow side, but he is built like a Patrick Kerney.
Luka paned out but Euros who are not above average in shooting generally have a hard time in the NBA. So we will see with Durisic.....
. I've heard Ginobli, taller more athletic Bogi, taller less athletic Ant Man.
The Pitch:
- Extremely gifted shot creator with beautiful highlights and a proclivity to drive the ball.
- Production AND efficiency spiked once Topic left, putting up 20.1 points on 62.3 TS%.
- Not a consistent shooter but shot it much better in the last stretch (when he ran the offense).
- Still a dangerous spot-up player with his ability to drive closeouts and attack the rim even when shot wasn't falling.
- Brimming with irrational confidence which either results in incredible plays or overzealous turnovers and difficult shots.
- Intelligent defender but probably not a true lockdown.
- Some separation questions as his handle isn't tight and he isn't an elite athlete (especially among NBA players).
- Biggest question is can he scale down his on-ball reps and still be effective?
Shades of...
"Less Athletic" Anthony Edwards (according to Nikola Djurišić)
Joe Johnson
Manu Ginoboli
Rudy Fernandez
jayu70 wrote:atlantabbq99 wrote:
He is a poor man's Luka. Above average handles, play making and passing, but below average shooting
On film he looks alittle on the slow side, but he is built like a Patrick Kerney.
Luka paned out but Euros who are not above average in shooting generally have a hard time in the NBA. So we will see with Durisic.....
Lot's of comparisons
Both sound good.D21 wrote:Jamaaliver wrote:
I see a lot more Joe Johnson than Paul George or Kris Middleton in the way this guy moves on the floor.
If he can be as clutch as Joe, bring him here now!
And small ball with Trae/Đurišić/Bogi/Risacher/Jalen would make a fun passing/shooting lineup
atlantabbq99 wrote:jayu70 wrote:atlantabbq99 wrote:
He is a poor man's Luka. Above average handles, play making and passing, but below average shooting
On film he looks alittle on the slow side, but he is built like a Patrick Kerney.
Luka paned out but Euros who are not above average in shooting generally have a hard time in the NBA. So we will see with Durisic.....
Lot's of comparisons
Defiantly not Bogi. Bogi was an elite shooter before the NBA and Djurisic's shot is nothing special and even below average.
Manu wasn't much of a passer at age 19.
When I say poor man's Luka, i mean really really poor man's Luka. Here are Luka's stats at age 19 and Nikola's stats at age 19
Doncic 16ppg, 4.2apg, 45FG%, 32% from three
Djurisic 14.5ppg, 3.6apg, 45FG%, 33% from three
Like I said before, international players with below average jumpshots like Killen Hayes, Exum, Mario Hezonja, Bender, Goran Dragic, Rubio, Frank Ntilikina, etc, don't transition well into the NBA, so we will see what happens to Djurisic. I would have rather gotten Quinten Post but a 2nd round pick for Djurisic seems about right for his value for now.
Bob8 wrote:atlantabbq99 wrote:jayu70 wrote:Lot's of comparisons
Defiantly not Bogi. Bogi was an elite shooter before the NBA and Djurisic's shot is nothing special and even below average.
Manu wasn't much of a passer at age 19.
When I say poor man's Luka, i mean really really poor man's Luka. Here are Luka's stats at age 19 and Nikola's stats at age 19
Doncic 16ppg, 4.2apg, 45FG%, 32% from three
Djurisic 14.5ppg, 3.6apg, 45FG%, 33% from three
Like I said before, international players with below average jumpshots like Killen Hayes, Exum, Mario Hezonja, Bender, Goran Dragic, Rubio, Frank Ntilikina, etc, don't transition well into the NBA, so we will see what happens to Djurisic. I would have rather gotten Quinten Post but a 2nd round pick for Djurisic seems about right for his value for now.
Djurisic is a player worth taking the risk. The only thing you need to be careful with is interpreting the stats. You have many leagues in Europe, he's playing in Aba league, which is overall pretty bad league, something like 7th tier league. He wouldn't have gotten a second of playing time in Euroleague. Mega is basically a team for developing young talents, without having any pressure about results. Which is great and a big rarity in Europe, where results are everything.
Pokuokic wrote:Bob8 wrote:atlantabbq99 wrote:
Defiantly not Bogi. Bogi was an elite shooter before the NBA and Djurisic's shot is nothing special and even below average.
Manu wasn't much of a passer at age 19.
When I say poor man's Luka, i mean really really poor man's Luka. Here are Luka's stats at age 19 and Nikola's stats at age 19
Doncic 16ppg, 4.2apg, 45FG%, 32% from three
Djurisic 14.5ppg, 3.6apg, 45FG%, 33% from three
Like I said before, international players with below average jumpshots like Killen Hayes, Exum, Mario Hezonja, Bender, Goran Dragic, Rubio, Frank Ntilikina, etc, don't transition well into the NBA, so we will see what happens to Djurisic. I would have rather gotten Quinten Post but a 2nd round pick for Djurisic seems about right for his value for now.
Djurisic is a player worth taking the risk. The only thing you need to be careful with is interpreting the stats. You have many leagues in Europe, he's playing in Aba league, which is overall pretty bad league, something like 7th tier league. He wouldn't have gotten a second of playing time in Euroleague. Mega is basically a team for developing young talents, without having any pressure about results. Which is great and a big rarity in Europe, where results are everything.
Neither would have any of the other guys from Mega Basket except Topic/Petrusev that got drafted/played in the NBA in the last 10 years or so, the league is a solid League although this past year was weaker than normal the only League that's above all the leagues in Europe is Spain/Euroleague/Eurocup the rest of the domestic leagues e.g Greek/Italian/French are all the same with 2-3 elite teams (like the ABA) and everyone else fighting to be mid/not get relegated I'd say it's more a 3rd/4th tier league.
To me out of the 3 recent Nikola's (Jovic/Djurisic/Topic) that got drafted I always felt Djurisic had the highest upside (and bust) but Jovic/Topic barring injury are sure fire NBA players (starters/main rotation or better)/would be given a greater chance due to the skillsets/motor.
Bob8 wrote:Pokuokic wrote:Bob8 wrote:
Djurisic is a player worth taking the risk. The only thing you need to be careful with is interpreting the stats. You have many leagues in Europe, he's playing in Aba league, which is overall pretty bad league, something like 7th tier league. He wouldn't have gotten a second of playing time in Euroleague. Mega is basically a team for developing young talents, without having any pressure about results. Which is great and a big rarity in Europe, where results are everything.
Neither would have any of the other guys from Mega Basket except Topic/Petrusev that got drafted/played in the NBA in the last 10 years or so, the league is a solid League although this past year was weaker than normal the only League that's above all the leagues in Europe is Spain/Euroleague/Eurocup the rest of the domestic leagues e.g Greek/Italian/French are all the same with 2-3 elite teams (like the ABA) and everyone else fighting to be mid/not get relegated I'd say it's more a 3rd/4th tier league.
To me out of the 3 recent Nikola's (Jovic/Djurisic/Topic) that got drafted I always felt Djurisic had the highest upside (and bust) but Jovic/Topic barring injury are sure fire NBA players (starters/main rotation or better)/would be given a greater chance due to the skillsets/motor.
You have Fiba Champions league for sure better, at least with depth and I would say French league too. Problem with Aba league is a big drop after Zvezda and Partizan, overall quality of the league is pretty bad, especially this year, which was clearly represented by Cedevita Olimpija being totally humiliated in Eurocup.
If you’re not coming in NBA as a star, you better be great in something, because you won’t get many opportunities for develop overall game and that’s kinda big problem for all those young players. I’m not sure that coming so early is the best for their development.
Pokuokic wrote:Bob8 wrote:Pokuokic wrote:Neither would have any of the other guys from Mega Basket except Topic/Petrusev that got drafted/played in the NBA in the last 10 years or so, the league is a solid League although this past year was weaker than normal the only League that's above all the leagues in Europe is Spain/Euroleague/Eurocup the rest of the domestic leagues e.g Greek/Italian/French are all the same with 2-3 elite teams (like the ABA) and everyone else fighting to be mid/not get relegated I'd say it's more a 3rd/4th tier league.
To me out of the 3 recent Nikola's (Jovic/Djurisic/Topic) that got drafted I always felt Djurisic had the highest upside (and bust) but Jovic/Topic barring injury are sure fire NBA players (starters/main rotation or better)/would be given a greater chance due to the skillsets/motor.
You have Fiba Champions league for sure better, at least with depth and I would say French league too. Problem with Aba league is a big drop after Zvezda and Partizan, overall quality of the league is pretty bad, especially this year, which was clearly represented by Cedevita Olimpija being totally humiliated in Eurocup.
If you’re not coming in NBA as a star, you better be great in something, because you won’t get many opportunities for develop overall game and that’s kinda big problem for all those young players. I’m not sure that coming so early is the best for their development.
Aside from Monaco French league is way worse imo (Aswell is pure trash in EL) but yeah Fiba CL is better, I honestly rather they play in the G League than be buried on the bench playing for Euroleague teams (reported he will go to Red Star if he does not stay with Atlanta which happened to Vukcevic before he came over to the Wizards).
