OT: NBA

[JoshB914]

Yeah Simmons was a disaster I agree. And they were probably stuck with him.

My issue is that they should have dealt Redd for expirers and picks and started rebuilding. But instead they paired him with a guy that makes them a .500 team at best.

[JoshB914]

Josh- whether it shoudl be the goal or whether it is the goal are different. I don't think the Hawks ownership as an example has a championship as the ultimate goal at all> They want to make the playoffs and if things break right win a playoff round or two but they aren't seriously taking the steps necessary to build a championship team.

That's true. And they have been ripped quite a bit for taking that approach.

[tontoz]

Yeah Simmons was a disaster I agree. And they were probably stuck with him.

My issue is that they should have dealt Redd for expirers and picks and started rebuilding. But instead they paired him with a guy that makes them a .500 team at best.

It isn't as easy to start over in Milwaukee. Nobody wants to play there. At least Atlanta is a favorite place to live among athletes.

We started over back in 2003 and look how long has taken just to not be a laughingstock.

There was nothing wrong with the Jefferson deal.

[lunarblues]

the bucks have the pieces to put together a good team. right now this should be their core

PG-Sessions
SG-Redd
SF-Jefferson
PF-
C-Bogut

Guard Bench-
Swingman Bench-Alexander
Big Man Bench-


everyone else on their roster should be up for sale. the good thing is that they don't need too much to be very competitive. they don't need a star at power forward just a good defensive minded player that can alter shots. then they need a true backup point guard and another backup defensive bench player.

[HoopsGuru25]

The easiest way to build a championship team in the NBA is to tank in the draft and hope for a superstar. The problem with that is that you will eventually be fired because players like Shaq,Lebron,and Duncan don't come around every year.

[lunarblues]

but the bucks don't have to tank and they have their #1 player in bogut, problem is that a) the bench sucks b) charlie v is one of if not the worst starting power forward in the league and c) they aren't playing like they want to win. you can solve the first by letting you underacheiving bench players walk and sign some guys with potential. the second one is by trading charlie v and picking up a better player who will have to have a long contract, and c) will come once they start to win games.

[HoopsGuru25]

Bogut isn't anywhere near good enough to lead a team to a championship and Redd and Jefferson are both bad defenders. The Bucks Bucks biggest problem is that they don't have enough top end talent. This may change depending on who they get in the draft but their current "core" of players is never going to be anything else other than mediocre regardless of what role players they have around it. You also can't realistically try to improve a team by trying to trade all your bad players while keeping your good players.

[JoshB914]

the bucks have the pieces to put together a good team. right now this should be their core

PG-Sessions
SG-Redd
SF-Jefferson
PF-
C-Bogut

Guard Bench-
Swingman Bench-Alexander
Big Man Bench-


everyone else on their roster should be up for sale. the good thing is that they don't need too much to be very competitive. they don't need a star at power forward just a good defensive minded player that can alter shots. then they need a true backup point guard and another backup defensive bench player.

That doesn't seem like that good of a team to me. Plus it would cost money to fill those other roles, money they don't have.

Since no FA's want to come to Milwaukee, the best way for them to rebuild is to just clear salary and draft well with high draft picks (Atlanta, Portland, San Antonio, Utah, New Orleans). They've locked themselves into 35-win basketball and a pick in the teens every year instead. Welcome to mediocrity, baby!

[lunarblues]

no all they have to do is trade for a mid level PF and sign some defensive minded vets. a journeyman is going to want a check that's all (that's what makes them a journeyman. also, they are going to have a good draft pick this year anyway. they can get a PF reggie evans, francisco elson, mikki moore, or even brad miller. or they can go european. there are ways to do it instead of blowing up the team and hoping that lebron james is walking through that door.