2019 NBA Draft Prep

Indyhawks26 · Post #2081 » by **Indyhawks26** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:44 am

I was thinking back in Hawks history when the Hawks had a top 10 pick what player(s)the Hawks drafted was a big let down. Marvin and Childress come to mind. Is Reddish the next Marvin? Alot of people wanted Marvin but he turned out to be fools gold.Potential seemed to be the big word used to describe Marvin.I guess that's why I am apprehensive to draft Reddish.

personanongrata · Post #2082 » by **personanongrata** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:15 am

Indyhawks26 wrote:I was thinking back in Hawks history when the Hawks had a top 10 pick what player(s)the Hawks drafted was a big let down. Marvin and Childress come to mind. Is Reddish the next Marvin? Alot of people wanted Marvin but he turned out to be fools gold.Potential seemed to be the big word used to describe Marvin.I guess that's why I am apprehensive to draft Reddish.

I never wanted Marvin. He had no creativity to his game at all.

Post #2083 » by **Jamaaliver** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:20 am

I know it's been speculated at length, but Im watching him play now...

Jarrett Culver is friggin' huge. That kid is easily 6'8". Maybe bigger. He's definitely comparable size as Jayson Tatum, meaning he can man SF or PF position with the skill of 2-guard.

I keep going back and forth on who I want us to draft, but he's gonna be good. Really good, regardless of where he goes.

He's now officially my favorite player in this draft class. The 2019 Wendell Carter.

Indyhawks26 · Post #2084 » by **Indyhawks26** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:59 am

I definitely want Clarke after King Ken talked about him and saw him play tonight.Off guard I'd like to see someone have some big games to convince me.Culver as 8 pts at half but isn't shooting so well.If Clarke is drafted means no Bol Bol unless the Hawks sign a free agent.

observer1995 · Post #2085 » by **observer1995** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:19 am

Jamaaliver wrote:I know it's been speculated at length, but Im watching him play now...

Jarrett Culver is friggin' huge. That kid is easily 6'8". Maybe bigger. He's definitely comparable size as Jayson Tatum, meaning he can man SF or PF position with the skill of 2-guard.

I keep going back and forth on who I want us to draft, but he's gonna be good. Really good, regardless of where he goes.

He's now officially my favorite player in this draft class. The 2019 Wendell Carter.

Nah, I think he'll check in at 6'7". He's just big, and I think he can still bulk up more if what thestepien had is right (and I know about the other articles). I think his playing weight can be 240.

(really, although it's possible, it'd be unreal if he had gotten taller than that, and like I've said if he's 6'7" my only hang up is how you feel about the shot)

LunchBox21 · Post #2086 » by **LunchBox21** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:57 am

Culver is an elite finisher at the basket. And more wiggle than RJ getting to the basket.

Ice Trae · Post #2087 » by **Ice Trae** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:05 am

I’m sold on Culver. I want him in a Hawk uniform if we strike out on Zion

personanongrata · Post #2088 » by **personanongrata** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:44 am

I wonder who Schlenk likes?

Spud2nique · Post #2089 » by **Spud2nique** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:50 am

Cam and Culver 1 and 1A for me. Both will be studs I think. Let’s see where the ball drops for us. I still have Zion dreams. It’s fun for minute. :wink:

Post #2090 » by **Jamaaliver** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:29 am

Spud2nique wrote:Note: Kabengele is a first rounder now imo

I have no idea where he'll be drafted, but he's the ideal archetype for what we need at the Center position next to Collins.

Can defend in space and on the perimeter
Is an above average rim protector
Can effectively space the floor with a solid 3-pt stroke
Is a low usage player who doesn't need a ton of touches to be effective

I still like Sekou Doumbouya as a small ball-5 who can defend every position on the floor, but acquiring Dikembe's nephew would be all too fitting and a worthy consolation prize.

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Post #2091 » by **Jamaaliver** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:51 am

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kg01 · Post #2092 » by **kg01** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:27 pm

Why isn't anyone concerned about injury with Zion? 6'5", 270+lb high-flyer seems like an injury waiting to happen.

"Losing" the lottery might be a blessing in disguise.

Post #2093 » by **Jamaaliver** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:39 pm

From the Canadian ESPN:

2019 NBA mock draft: Zion goes first, but where will Barrett land?

because the NBA’s lottery has ensured the actual draft order usually doesn’t exactly reflect the standings, we’ve spun the wheel on RealGM’s draft lottery simulator and will be drafting based on those results.

With that set, let’s draft:

Spud2nique · Post #2094 » by **Spud2nique** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:40 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:Note: Kabengele is a first rounder now imo

I have no idea where he'll be drafted, but he's the ideal archetype for what we need at the Center position next to Collins.

Can defend in space and on the perimeter
Is an above average rim protector
Can effectively space the floor with a solid 3-pt stroke
Is a low usage player who doesn't need a ton of touches to be effective

I still like Sekou Doumbouya as a small ball-5 who can defend every position on the floor, but acquiring Dikembe's nephew would be all too fitting and a worthy consolation prize.

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MFIONDU KABENGELE, Florida State

It’s frustrating watching Kabengele coming off the bench, because he has been such a valuable weapon for the Seminoles when he is on the floor.

At 6-foot-10, he has the length and athleticism to project as a five in the NBA. He can block shots, he can move his feet on the perimeter and his ability to switch is one of the biggest reasons that Florida State is able to switch 1-through-5 on the defensive end of the floor. Perhaps the most impressive thing about Kabengele as a prospect is that he is a really, really good shooter that can knockdown threes in pick-and-pop actions as well as showing an ability to step into a shot in transition.

He doesn’t start for the Seminoles, but I’m starting to believe that he will be worth a late first round pick come June’s draft.
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Spud2nique · Post #2095 » by **Spud2nique** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:48 pm

kg01 wrote:Why isn't anyone concerned about injury with Zion? 6'5", 270+lb high-flyer seems like an injury waiting to happen.

"Losing" the lottery might be a blessing in disguise.

If there is just one slight bit of hesitation for me it is definitely the injury issue. He does play very fast and with a ton of power. Injuries usually come with this style of play. The explosiveness Zion has actually reminds me of Derrick Rose who got that horrific injury vs the Sixers about 8 years ago and it took him about 6 years to fully recover.

There’s that side of it, but then one can argue the same with Lebron. A fast powerful athlete whose somehow avoided major injury his whole career.

Ya it definitely could end up being a blessing in disguise specially with the fact that we now already have the face of our franchise in Trae.

Gonna be interesting.

kg01 · Post #2096 » by **kg01** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:59 pm

Spud2nique wrote:
kg01 wrote:Why isn't anyone concerned about injury with Zion? 6'5", 270+lb high-flyer seems like an injury waiting to happen.

"Losing" the lottery might be a blessing in disguise.

If there is just one slight bit of hesitation for me it is definitely the injury issue. He does play very fast and with a ton of power. Injuries usually come with this style of play. The explosiveness Zion has actually reminds me of Derrick Rose who got that horrific injury vs the Sixers about 8 years ago and it took him about 6 years to fully recover.

There’s that side of it, but then one can argue the same with Lebron. A fast powerful athlete whose somehow avoided major injury his whole career.

Ya it definitely could end up being a blessing in disguise specially with the fact that we now already have the face of our franchise in Trae.

Gonna be interesting.

David Griffin, who I'm not really a fan of, made this point yesterday when asked if he had any concerns about Zion. Basically said, which I think is true, that shoe didn't blow up because it was defective. It blew up because of the force generated by Zion. Not saying he's super-human but that it was accurate to suggest that his sheer size+athleticism is unique. He seemed to be inferring that injury is highly likely with Zion for that reason.

He also compared this to Lebron stating that he was really the only comparison (size, strength, athleticism) in that regard. To his credit, James puts in a ton of "pre-hab" work to sure-up his body. The work he's done throughout his career is uncommon. That's the type of work it'll take for Zion to remain healthy.

He also suggested that his lack of length and height may hinder him until he learns to shoot. Giannis can power through because, even when guys play off him, his length allows him to continue getting to the rim. Zion won't have this to fall back on.

Like I said, I'm totally fine if we end up not getting the top pick. If we do, I hope they invest in keeping him on the court. I certainly hope they do a better job than they did with Cal-Omari.

High 5 · Post #2097 » by **High 5** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:03 pm

kg01 wrote:Why isn't anyone concerned about injury with Zion? 6'5", 270+lb high-flyer seems like an injury waiting to happen.

"Losing" the lottery might be a blessing in disguise.

Injury seems to be the only thing people are worried about. I know that's how I've felt. But he looks to be so much better than everyone else you have to take that chance if given the opportunity.

Spud2nique · Post #2098 » by **Spud2nique** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:11 pm

kg01 wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:
kg01 wrote:Why isn't anyone concerned about injury with Zion? 6'5", 270+lb high-flyer seems like an injury waiting to happen.

"Losing" the lottery might be a blessing in disguise.

If there is just one slight bit of hesitation for me it is definitely the injury issue. He does play very fast and with a ton of power. Injuries usually come with this style of play. The explosiveness Zion has actually reminds me of Derrick Rose who got that horrific injury vs the Sixers about 8 years ago and it took him about 6 years to fully recover.

There’s that side of it, but then one can argue the same with Lebron. A fast powerful athlete whose somehow avoided major injury his whole career.

Ya it definitely could end up being a blessing in disguise specially with the fact that we now already have the face of our franchise in Trae.

Gonna be interesting.

David Griffin, who I'm not really a fan of, made this point yesterday when asked if he had any concerns about Zion. Basically said, which I think is true, that shoe didn't blow up because it was defective. It blew up because of the force generated by Zion. Not saying he's super-human but that it was accurate to suggest that his sheer size+athleticism is unique. He seemed to be inferring that injury is highly likely with Zion for that reason.

He also compared this to Lebron stating that he was really the only comparison (size, strength, athleticism) in that regard. To his credit, James puts in a ton of "pre-hab" work to sure-up his body. The work he's done throughout his career is uncommon. That's the type of work it'll take for Zion to remain healthy.

He also suggested that his lack of length and height may hinder him until he learns to shoot. Giannis can power through because, even when guys play off him, his length allows him to continue getting to the rim. Zion won't have this to fall back on.

Like I said, I'm totally fine if we end up not getting the top pick. If we do, I hope they invest in keeping him on the court. I certainly hope they do a better job than they did with Cal-Omari.

It’s only a matter of physics. That’s why I’m really surprised Lebron never got seriously hurt. Like you said Lebron puts in time, his whole life for basketball, hopefully Zion is wired the same. Also as mentioned, luck is most of it.

The documentary I saw on Zion showed him as a truly humble kid who loved basketball. I hope it stays this way for him because he’s a pretty awesome show in himself.

I still want him badly.

Better have have love and lost than... wait, that’s my speech for later on today...

King Ken · Post #2099 » by **King Ken** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:38 pm

observer1995 wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:I know it's been speculated at length, but Im watching him play now...

Jarrett Culver is friggin' huge. That kid is easily 6'8". Maybe bigger. He's definitely comparable size as Jayson Tatum, meaning he can man SF or PF position with the skill of 2-guard.

I keep going back and forth on who I want us to draft, but he's gonna be good. Really good, regardless of where he goes.

He's now officially my favorite player in this draft class. The 2019 Wendell Carter.

Nah, I think he'll check in at 6'7". He's just big, and I think he can still bulk up more if what thestepien had is right (and I know about the other articles). I think his playing weight can be 240.

(really, although it's possible, it'd be unreal if he had gotten taller than that, and like I've said if he's 6'7" my only hang up is how you feel about the shot)

Weight and bulk will be critical for his prospect status.

personanongrata · Post #2100 » by **personanongrata** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:57 pm

kg01 wrote:Why isn't anyone concerned about injury with Zion? 6'5", 270+lb high-flyer seems like an injury waiting to happen.

"Losing" the lottery might be a blessing in disguise.

It's not bad weight. Its not body fat, and he's all muscle. It's actually tall and skinny guys like bol bol get hurt.

What direction should Hawks go with their lottery picks?