2019 NBA Draft Prep

[King Ken]

You stated Cam would be in the convo for #2 if he had Romeo's offensive game. Major hot take if the guy himself isn't even in discussion for a top 5 pick. Even with the hand injury, his form still wouldn't have me believe he's a better shooter than 27%. If so, he's probably still only a 30-35% in reality. Romeo has "better" stats as the lead guy. Reddish is looked more as a #3 and that's due to style of play of the 2 guys in front of him, and Reddish being needed as a spot-up shooter. Cam's being overshadowed point blank period. Langford isn't even close to being one of the best pull up shooters in the country, and that's not even looking statistically. That's looking at the fact that he isn't even a real shooter period.

I actually like Langford but I am not seeing how this is a conversation. Most scouts and GMs will see Cam as the better prospect of the two at this stage.

While Romeo is less limited, he is more raw and will take time before you can put him into the rotation. Cam could be plugged in right now off the bench. Just a more reliable skill-set.

Most scouts and GMs also thought Trae Young was going to be a bust.

No they didn't. They thought he was a boom or bust. They had good reason to. We saw how he looked in SL and in Novemeber. Imagined he went to a stubborn coach like most like Coach Bud or a team where they are set in their style of play who wouldn't have a long leash for Trae or wouldn't put up with the 30ft threes and risk taking passes.

Let's just be Frank. He went to the right team who already had a fit in Collins who pretty much was going to build our team around Trae and we hired a development coach who let him be him to get the maximum results out of Trae which was more important than useless wins with guys he can trust over him.

I'll never forget Jrue Holiday opinion. He was like in preseason, I like how they want to play fast with him, he should transition faster than most rookies at PG who make you play the way they want you to play. Please take time to understand context.

[King Ken]

You stated Cam would be in the convo for #2 if he had Romeo's offensive game. Major hot take if the guy himself isn't even in discussion for a top 5 pick. Even with the hand injury, his form still wouldn't have me believe he's a better shooter than 27%. If so, he's probably still only a 30-35% in reality. Romeo has "better" stats as the lead guy. Reddish is looked more as a #3 and that's due to style of play of the 2 guys in front of him, and Reddish being needed as a spot-up shooter. Cam's being overshadowed point blank period. Langford isn't even close to being one of the best pull up shooters in the country, and that's not even looking statistically. That's looking at the fact that he isn't even a real shooter period.

I actually like Langford but I am not seeing how this is a conversation. Most scouts and GMs will see Cam as the better prospect of the two at this stage.

While Romeo is less limited, he is more raw and will take time before you can put him into the rotation. Cam could be plugged in right now off the bench. Just a more reliable skill-set.

Don't get me wrong. I actually like Langford too, but I do see that he's not a better talent than Cam.

Clearly not. Langford is a pretty good talent, a bit raw but pretty good. You are looking a potential all star long term but lower end one. Cam is just much more talented. If he hits, you are looking at All NBAs and a MVP candidate. He has his limitations but so did Trae, PG13, Steph, Jokic, etc. Those guys just have more star potential. This is how Reddish can choose the wrong situation and most scouts still have him as a top 10 prospect. He not only translates but he has obvious talent

[King Ken]

That has everything to do with how coach K ran his offense though. He ran a 5 out motion offense. What do you need in that particular offense? As much space as possible. What does that mean for Reddish, who is the best shooter you have? Sit on the perimeter and wait for the read pass to you. RJ and Zion are of course better attacking the basket, so that's where you're going to utilize them. Why would coach K go away from what was working as is just because Zion went out for 5 games. He still had RJ and Tre Jones to attack the basket.

Why go to Duke to be used as a spot up guy ?

He committed before the other 2 did. I'm sure if he could do it all over, and knew that both would be there, he would have went elsewhere considering all of the ridicule he's getting for not performing showcasing like the other 2 did.

Yep, him and Tre were the first two to commit and like Wendell Carter Jr., the gameplan changed when Bagley came on board, it changed when Cam was out in Canada. They realize this was going to be the R.J. and Zion show and the rest were along for the ride. This is why some scouts and a lot of coaches felt strongly that Tre is much better than he has showed at Duke. He wasn't in the optimal situation. A lot of this is on Coach K. He hasn't really coached these one and done groups well in recent years.

[King Ken]

I still really like this kid, a lot. Not a star, but a top role playing big.

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Baby Jokic ?

What are his feet like ? Will he be able to defend the PnR in the NBA ?

It's not bad at all. Just like Joker, he is good at positioning.

[EazyRoc]

I actually like Langford but I am not seeing how this is a conversation. Most scouts and GMs will see Cam as the better prospect of the two at this stage.

While Romeo is less limited, he is more raw and will take time before you can put him into the rotation. Cam could be plugged in right now off the bench. Just a more reliable skill-set.

Most scouts and GMs also thought Trae Young was going to be a bust.

No they didn't. They thought he was a boom or bust. They had good reason to. We saw how he looked in SL and in Novemeber. Imagined he went to a stubborn coach like most like Coach Bud or a team where they are set in their style of play who wouldn't have a long leash for Trae or wouldn't put up with the 30ft threes and risk taking passes.

Let's just be Frank. He went to the right team who already had a fit in Collins who pretty much was going to build our team around Trae and we hired a development coach who let him be him to get the maximum results out of Trae which was more important than useless wins with guys he can trust over him.

I'll never forget Jrue Holiday opinion. He was like in preseason, I like how they want to play fast with him, he should transition faster than most rookies at PG who make you play the way they want you to play. Please take time to understand context.

Although I don’t take their opinion as the gospel, most of the time Trae Young was mentioned some anonymous scout or executive would have an overall negative opinion. People get it wrong all the time. If it was science, it’d probably be boring.

I think he could’ve and would’ve adjusted to whatever situation. His numbers might be lower, but they’d also probably be more efficient. The kid is a gamer. He would’ve shined anywhere he went if he could get playing time.

[King Ken]

Most scouts and GMs also thought Trae Young was going to be a bust.

No they didn't. They thought he was a boom or bust. They had good reason to. We saw how he looked in SL and in Novemeber. Imagined he went to a stubborn coach like most like Coach Bud or a team where they are set in their style of play who wouldn't have a long leash for Trae or wouldn't put up with the 30ft threes and risk taking passes.

Let's just be Frank. He went to the right team who already had a fit in Collins who pretty much was going to build our team around Trae and we hired a development coach who let him be him to get the maximum results out of Trae which was more important than useless wins with guys he can trust over him.

I'll never forget Jrue Holiday opinion. He was like in preseason, I like how they want to play fast with him, he should transition faster than most rookies at PG who make you play the way they want you to play. Please take time to understand context.

Although I don’t take their opinion as the gospel, most of the time Trae Young was mentioned some anonymous scout or executive would have an overall negative opinion. People get it wrong all the time. If it was science, it’d probably be boring.

I think he could’ve and would’ve adjusted to whatever situation. His numbers might be lower, but they’d also probably be more efficient. The kid is a gamer. He would’ve shined anywhere he went if he could get playing time.

Negative opinion and general consensus is two different things.

Stop. You don't know how he would have handled it. These type of things linger. Thankfully he ended up in a great situation. We have guys like Bamba and Oladipo who didn't and their careers are in different places. Vic could have had success much faster if he landed where they wanted to invest in him. We got Trae, invested in him like a QB. Gave him the Keys to the ship.

[EazyRoc]

I actually like Langford but I am not seeing how this is a conversation. Most scouts and GMs will see Cam as the better prospect of the two at this stage.

While Romeo is less limited, he is more raw and will take time before you can put him into the rotation. Cam could be plugged in right now off the bench. Just a more reliable skill-set.

Don't get me wrong. I actually like Langford too, but I do see that he's not a better talent than Cam.

Clearly not. Langford is a pretty good talent, a bit raw but pretty good. You are looking a potential all star long term but lower end one. Cam is just much more talented. If he hits, you are looking at All NBAs and a MVP candidate. He has his limitations but so did Trae, PG13, Steph, Jokic, etc. Those guys just have more star potential. This is how Reddish can choose the wrong situation and most scouts still have him as a top 10 prospect. He not only translates but he has obvious talent

Come on man Stop this. Don’t do that kid like that.

I said the same thing about Hunter. It’s ok to be wrong sometimes..

[King Ken]

Don't get me wrong. I actually like Langford too, but I do see that he's not a better talent than Cam.

Clearly not. Langford is a pretty good talent, a bit raw but pretty good. You are looking a potential all star long term but lower end one. Cam is just much more talented. If he hits, you are looking at All NBAs and a MVP candidate. He has his limitations but so did Trae, PG13, Steph, Jokic, etc. Those guys just have more star potential. This is how Reddish can choose the wrong situation and most scouts still have him as a top 10 prospect. He not only translates but he has obvious talent

Come on man Stop this. Don’t do that kid like that.

I said the same thing about Hunter. It’s ok to be wrong sometimes..

Where am I wrong with Cam? He has the talent and potential to be a high end two way wing especially for shooting and defense. Clearly he needs to be in the right environment but where I am wrong?

[EazyRoc]

No they didn't. They thought he was a boom or bust. They had good reason to. We saw how he looked in SL and in Novemeber. Imagined he went to a stubborn coach like most like Coach Bud or a team where they are set in their style of play who wouldn't have a long leash for Trae or wouldn't put up with the 30ft threes and risk taking passes.

Let's just be Frank. He went to the right team who already had a fit in Collins who pretty much was going to build our team around Trae and we hired a development coach who let him be him to get the maximum results out of Trae which was more important than useless wins with guys he can trust over him.

I'll never forget Jrue Holiday opinion. He was like in preseason, I like how they want to play fast with him, he should transition faster than most rookies at PG who make you play the way they want you to play. Please take time to understand context.

Although I don’t take their opinion as the gospel, most of the time Trae Young was mentioned some anonymous scout or executive would have an overall negative opinion. People get it wrong all the time. If it was science, it’d probably be boring.

I think he could’ve and would’ve adjusted to whatever situation. His numbers might be lower, but they’d also probably be more efficient. The kid is a gamer. He would’ve shined anywhere he went if he could get playing time.

Negative opinion and general consensus is two different things.

Stop. You don't know how he would have handled it. These type of things linger. Thankfully he ended up in a great situation. We have guys like Bamba and Oladipo who didn't and their careers are in different places. Vic could have had success much faster if he landed where they wanted to invest in him. We got Trae, invested in him like a QB. Gave him the Keys to the ship.

Everywhere he was projected to go the door was wide open for him.

[EazyRoc]

Clearly not. Langford is a pretty good talent, a bit raw but pretty good. You are looking a potential all star long term but lower end one. Cam is just much more talented. If he hits, you are looking at All NBAs and a MVP candidate. He has his limitations but so did Trae, PG13, Steph, Jokic, etc. Those guys just have more star potential. This is how Reddish can choose the wrong situation and most scouts still have him as a top 10 prospect. He not only translates but he has obvious talent

Come on man Stop this. Don’t do that kid like that.

I said the same thing about Hunter. It’s ok to be wrong sometimes..

Where am I wrong with Cam? He has the talent and potential to be a high end two way wing especially for shooting and defense. Clearly he needs to be in the right environment but where I am wrong?

MVP potential All NBA. That’s a reach. Even for someone like RJ.

[King Ken]

Although I don’t take their opinion as the gospel, most of the time Trae Young was mentioned some anonymous scout or executive would have an overall negative opinion. People get it wrong all the time. If it was science, it’d probably be boring.

I think he could’ve and would’ve adjusted to whatever situation. His numbers might be lower, but they’d also probably be more efficient. The kid is a gamer. He would’ve shined anywhere he went if he could get playing time.

Negative opinion and general consensus is two different things.

Stop. You don't know how he would have handled it. These type of things linger. Thankfully he ended up in a great situation. We have guys like Bamba and Oladipo who didn't and their careers are in different places. Vic could have had success much faster if he landed where they wanted to invest in him. We got Trae, invested in him like a QB. Gave him the Keys to the ship.

Everywhere he was projected to go the door was wide open for him.

Not quite. You have to give him the keys. The only coaching situation we know outside of our ours who would do it is Fizdale and the Knicks.

[EazyRoc]

Negative opinion and general consensus is two different things.

Stop. You don't know how he would have handled it. These type of things linger. Thankfully he ended up in a great situation. We have guys like Bamba and Oladipo who didn't and their careers are in different places. Vic could have had success much faster if he landed where they wanted to invest in him. We got Trae, invested in him like a QB. Gave him the Keys to the ship.

Everywhere he was projected to go the door was wide open for him.

Not quite. You have to give him the keys. The only coaching situation we know outside of our ours who would do it is Fizdale and the Knicks.

Orlando and Cleveland would’ve handed him the starting spot. He’d be worse at Cleveland but still good. He probably would’ve looked better in Orlando than he did here. I definitely think he wouldn’t have developed the way he’s developed here as the guy.

[EazyRoc]

Hunter is just so raw offensively. He’s got potential there with his physical profile and playing aggressive. He looked pretty good coming off screens even though he bricked the shot. He’s going to take some time offensively, but he’s not a complete project. He’s going to take at least a year playing a very small role though. Defensively though..he’s legit just very conservative.

[King Ken]

Everywhere he was projected to go the door was wide open for him.

Not quite. You have to give him the keys. The only coaching situation we know outside of our ours who would do it is Fizdale and the Knicks.

Orlando and Cleveland would’ve handed him the starting spot. He’d be worse at Cleveland but still good. He probably would’ve looked better in Orlando than he did here. I definitely think he wouldn’t have developed the way he’s developed here as the guy.

The keys are different than a chance to start. Orlando was not going to change up their style for Trae. They weren't setup for it. That's clearly not how Coach Clifford does it. You have to earn minutes in his system and you have to play his style and system. Same for Lue and LD. There are two guys you know for a fact will build their team around Trae and only one of them had the personnel needed which was us. He basically came into the optimal situation

[King Ken]

Hunter is just so raw offensively. He’s got potential there with his physical profile and playing aggressive. He looked pretty good coming off screens even though he bricked the shot. He’s going to take some time offensively, but he’s not a complete project. He’s going to take at least a year playing a very small role though. Defensively though..he’s legit just very conservative.

I love Hunter. One of my favorite wing prospects and fits just about any system and team. Isn't ideal for us but he fits. That's more than I can say about Culver and Langford. R.J. while a high end PDS guy, you wonder about his ability to ball pound and stop and how his usage will negatively effect Trae Young. R.J. to me is clearly the best wing in this class. But his system fit with us is high, his fit with Trae is low as well as his overall fit with Kevin. You almost would be choosing him over Trae and Kevin. I am not sure that's a good idea or even a reasonable idea.

[DirtybirdGA]

Hunter seemed to have a moderate game, maybe he'll do better Monday.

[pacehawk]

For me is between Cam and Culver, whoever is available or convince us more. I think Cam might be the better player at the end but Culver is showing really tremendous potential. Consolation prize is Hunter, I would not consider anyone else.

Then we need a Center and is between Bol and Hayes, my vote is for Bol if we check health is not an issue.

Culver or Reddish, Bol or Hayes, I am happy.

I would be ok with those selections but personally I would prefer Coby White over Culver or Reddish. But, I do like the Bol pick with the Hawks (Mavericks!) 2nd 1st Round pick (And, I thought I was the ONLY crazy Hawks fan that wanted to see them pick Bol Bol!!!)!

[King Ken]

For me is between Cam and Culver, whoever is available or convince us more. I think Cam might be the better player at the end but Culver is showing really tremendous potential. Consolation prize is Hunter, I would not consider anyone else.

Then we need a Center and is between Bol and Hayes, my vote is for Bol if we check health is not an issue.

Culver or Reddish, Bol or Hayes, I am happy.

I would be ok with those selections but personally I would prefer Coby White over Culver or Reddish. But, I do like the Bol pick with the Hawks (Mavericks!) 2nd 1st Round pick (And, I thought I was the ONLY crazy Hawks fan that wanted to see them pick Bol Bol!!!)!

Coby White? The PG?

Explain?

[Jamaaliver]

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[King Ken]

Since December, I really love the ultra aggressive defensive style TT plays. Tariq Owens reminds you so much of Hakim Warrick and how Cuse even though they played zone used him. May not translate to the NBA, he has a tremendous future playing pro basketball overseas