Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 1)

[Ruhiel]

Here's a more realistic Josh Smith trade:
Josh Smith + 2012 ATL 2nd round pick for a lotto pick in the draft pick this year, it's obviously a draft day trade; we use that pick and take Cody Zeller arguably the second best Center prospect in the draft behind Drummond, our problems at Center are then over. Then we use our pick to get a good SF like LeBryan Nash, or Jeff Taylor.
Lineup for next year:
PG: Teague
SG: Joe
SF: Nash/Taylor
PF: Horford
C: Zeller
With Marvin and Willie Green (hopefully resigned), and our other 2nd round pick (from PHX) coming off the bench as the primary weapons deph wise.
Thoughts?

Josh Smith is making $12 million iirc. This Zeller guy is listed at #4 overall. This imaginary team has to be willing to give up salary & young lotto picks, for Josh Smith. And to what point? Are they contenders with Josh Smith? Maybe a team could do it thru free agency... so maybe New Jersey would do it and go after Dwight...

[Superiorblogman]

Cody Zeller is less of a C than Horford. That is not a upgrade at all.

[ATL Boy]

Here's a more realistic Josh Smith trade:
Josh Smith + 2012 ATL 2nd round pick for a lotto pick in the draft pick this year, it's obviously a draft day trade; we use that pick and take Cody Zeller arguably the second best Center prospect in the draft behind Drummond, our problems at Center are then over. Then we use our pick to get a good SF like LeBryan Nash, or Jeff Taylor.
Lineup for next year:
PG: Teague
SG: Joe
SF: Nash/Taylor
PF: Horford
C: Zeller
With Marvin and Willie Green (hopefully resigned), and our other 2nd round pick (from PHX) coming off the bench as the primary weapons deph wise.
Thoughts?

Josh Smith is making $12 million iirc. This Zeller guy is listed at #4 overall. This imaginary team has to be willing to give up salary & young lotto picks, for Josh Smith. And to what point? Are they contenders with Josh Smith? Maybe a team could do it thru free agency... so maybe New Jersey would do it and go after Dwight...

New Jersey can be a sufficient trade partner for this trade, they have fillers we can take back like Farmar and Petro, and they might be willing to do this trade if it gives them a greater chance at Dwight.

Cody Zeller is less of a C than Horford. That is not a upgrade at all.

Alright, if not Zeller then I still think we should jump at the chance to turn Josh into a high pick, (maybe if the team doesn't think Josh himself is enough we can throw in a future 1st), maybe we can get a player like Kidd-Gilchrist, or Sullinger then use our original first to get a Center like Ezeli. But just out of curiosity if we did pull off a trade to get us into the lotto who would you take, you know more about this upcoming draft then me anyway. I'm really asking right now so don't think I'm trying to insult you man.

[Superiorblogman]

Someone that is closer to the NBA than we are told me we can get a lotto pick plus some for Josh.

I don't know who the team is though, that is the thing, but here are a list of players that could really help us.

Anthony Davis- Because of his reported length he could really go well with Al. 7"6 wingspan. I actually think Al and Camby would go well together, he reminds me of Camby.

Drummond- Center with tons of upside

Harrison Barnes- Could be a bust but he is definitely a SF, unlike Josh who is a tweener.

Those are really the only players I think are worthy of trading Josh for. I have too many questions about the others and I really have questions about Barnes too but whatever. My main reason for trading Josh for a lotto pick would be to tank and get a lotto pick ourselves. Getting young potential and trimming a little cap was my idea, but it is almost too late to tank now. So, we will just have to deal with this team that has maxed out, no cap space, and no real way to get better because I don't see a starting SF we can get for Josh, neither a starting Center that will really help.

[Superiorblogman]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=83phhj3

If we can shave a year off of Marvin's contract by sending him to the Bucks we have to.

Marvin and Kirk to the Bucks

Stephen Jackson, Livingston, and Leuer to the Hawks

Livingston is a big time mismatch as a PG in the post. Joe is a big time mismatch as a SG in the post. Josh big time mismatch as a SF in the post. Al PF natural position. If we could get a Center like Bargnani we would be set with that lineup killing the other team with built in mismatches.

If we could reach a buyout agreement with Jack this would be a win win situation.

[ATL Boy]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=83phhj3

If we can shave a year off of Marvin's contract by sending him to the Bucks we have to.

Marvin and Kirk to the Bucks

Stephen Jackson, Livingston, and Leuer to the Hawks

Livingston is a big time mismatch as a PG in the post. Joe is a big time mismatch as a SG in the post. Josh big time mismatch as a SF in the post. Al PF natural position. If we could get a Center like Bargnani we would be set with that lineup killing the other team with built in mismatches.

If we could reach a buyout agreement with Jack this would be a win win situation.

Well, One thing's for sure: Ruhiel is about to jump all over this trade

[2Mas]

Hey guys, Celtic fan here. Although I do hate the constant trades people are putting up, esp since we're playing .500 ball people are acting like it's a travesty. But with that said I did see one trade that I personally liked esp since Rondo is my favorite player. It was

Hinrich (8) & Horford (12) Going to Boston
for
Rondo (10) Bass (4) O'neal (6) Going to Atlanta

Although you'd give up a great big in Horford it'd finally give ATL a real pg since they been missing one for years. You'd get a top 10 shot blocker in JO along with being 2nd in charges.. WITH only playing 20 mins a game. & Bass obviously you'd get 12 & 6-7 with good man to man defense. Bass & JO are gone after this year & can resign JO for cheaper & Bass you can pick him up for his option.

Rondo/Teague
Johnson/Green
Williams/TMac
Smith/Bass
O'neal/Zaza

It really gives you guys a good bench & let's smith johnson williams to all run out & fastbreak while JO will hold down the paint. Off the bench Greens been killing, Tracy can still ball, Bass is nice & teague is a solid starter aka great back up. Zaza's tough. & you still got Johnson & pargo or Radman for the bench.

This ISN'T my trade idea.. Don't wanna steal who evers credit.. Just seen it & brought the idea here.
What do you guys think?

[ATL Boy]

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[ATL Boy]

As for the trade, there's no need for the Hawks to do this trade because we do have a real PG for the first time in years, his name is Jeff Teague. And While Rondo is an obvious upgrade over Teague, the upgrade isn't worth giving up Al Horford

[joe56755]

what about smith and hinrich for rondo and oneal ? im not sure how good teague is . he got off to a great start but since hinrichs returned he has played horrible . while i think horford is too much for rondo, smith for rondo seems fair .

[fullcourt]

Horford is better than Rondo and getting a quality PG is easy now a days.

[HMFFL]

To Cleveland:
Joe Johnson
First RD Pick(s) (top 5 protected)

To Atlanta:
Antawn Jamison (Expiring)
Ramon Sessions

Dan Gilbert won't be able to attract star free agents right now. Kyrie Irving is a building block and Joe Johnson provides them with a good opposite. Is Gilbert willing to take on Joe's contract?

[Ruhiel]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=83phhj3

If we can shave a year off of Marvin's contract by sending him to the Bucks we have to.

Marvin and Kirk to the Bucks

Stephen Jackson, Livingston, and Leuer to the Hawks

Livingston is a big time mismatch as a PG in the post. Joe is a big time mismatch as a SG in the post. Josh big time mismatch as a SF in the post. Al PF natural position. If we could get a Center like Bargnani we would be set with that lineup killing the other team with built in mismatches.

If we could reach a buyout agreement with Jack this would be a win win situation.

Well, One thing's for sure: Ruhiel is about to jump all over this trade

How would you guys feel about this?
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=83phhj3

Pretty much violated in unspeakable ways.

How would you guys feel about this?
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=83phhj3

No. While I don't hate mwilliams, I do not want to get in the way of tharris' future tic.

Besides, I see lueur as our ers in the future.

[djjob23]

PIPE DREAM!!!

Here's my Laundry List.

1. Trade with Orlando:
Atlanta trades: Joe Johnson, Al Horford
Atlanta Receives: Dwight Howard, Hedo Turkoglu

Roster:
Teague-Hinrich-Pargo
Green-McGrady
Turkoglu-Marvin-Radmanovic
Josh-Johnson
Howard-Zaza

2. Fire Larry Drew and Hire Rick Adelman.

3. Rick Sund and the ASG go on a LONG vacation

[Superiorblogman]

Teague has not been anything close to horrible, but Rondo is a clear upgrade. It would not make us better but I would do Teague and Josh or Hinrich and Josh for Rondo and Wilcox or any filler along those lines, but like I say I don't think it makes us better.

[Superiorblogman]

The best trade the Hawks and Celts can make does not include Rondo.

Josh and Kirk for Garnett and both Boston's 1st rd picks this year.

[myrak433]

here are two trades I feel could be done.

Pau Gasol and 2012 1st for Horford and Kirk

or Marvin Williams and Kirk for Al Jefferson


both trades gets the Hawks a low post offensive player. something they have been needing for 8 years. a low post scorer would make everyone on this team better. Joe wouldn't have to work so hard, Josh wouldn't have to try to create at all, Teague and T-mac games both would open up, and Zaza would be what he is a back-up.

[Social Lubrication]

Would you guys have any interest in swapping Kirk for Barbosa as part of a 3 team deal?

Also, is Marvin Williams available and what would you expect in return for him?

[Superiorblogman]

here are two trades I feel could be done.

Pau Gasol and 2012 1st for Horford and Kirk

or Marvin Williams and Kirk for Al Jefferson


both trades gets the Hawks a low post offensive player. something they have been needing for 8 years. a low post scorer would make everyone on this team better. Joe wouldn't have to work so hard, Josh wouldn't have to try to create at all, Teague and T-mac games both would open up, and Zaza would be what he is a back-up.

First trade is a bad trade and makes no sense. Takes you into luxury for a older player and does not really make you better.

Second trade would only get done if you added something else to it. Adding a 1st might get it done but when you think that you are probably going into luxury also I don't think it is ideal.

[Superiorblogman]

Would you guys have any interest in swapping Kirk for Barbosa as part of a 3 team deal?

Also, is Marvin Williams available and what would you expect in return for him?

Sure, we would love to swap Kirk for Barbosa and yes Marvin is available; what do you have in mind to offer for him is the question?