Is Trae Young on the way out?

[Jamaaliver]

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[raleigh]

All these shows are annoying me with their timing.

They should've had these discussions in July. Now that we're in November and there was no extension even offered, there's nothing left to discuss.

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That's correct. Hawks are averaging .1 more turnovers per game than last season.

Jalen Johnson leads the team with 3.1 per game.

NAW and DD combined average 4.7 which Trae averaged that by himself last season.

[Jamaaliver]

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That's correct. Hawks are averaging .1 more turnovers per game than last season.

Jalen Johnson leads the team with 3.1 per game.

Trae last season 4.7 per game.

NAW and DD combined average 4.7 which Trae averaged that by himself last season.

NAW and DD combined average 9.4 assists per game this year. Trae averaged 11.6 assists per game by himself last season.


Comparing Assist to Turnover Ratios:

• TY in 2025: 2.5 A/T Ratio
• DD in 2026: 2.5 A/T Ratio
• JJ in 2026: 2.1 A/T Ratio
• NAW in 2026: 1.5 A/T Ratio (The worst of every rotation player.)

[Jamaaliver]

Atlanta Hawks look like they don't need Trae Young

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The Atlanta Hawks were already going to have to make a decision on Trae Young.
He's set to be a free agent at the end of this season (assuming he declines a $48.9 million player option), and there's a world in which the Hawks don't try that hard to bring him back.

It all has to do with what's happening right now. Young hasn't played since spraining his knee on Oct. 29. In Young's absence, the Hawks have gone 7-2.

ESPN also shared that the Hawks rank fourth in defensive efficiency in the NBA with Young out, and they've never finished better than 18th in a season since they've had Young.

"I think the Trae Young situation is fascinating," a Western Conference executive told ESPN. "They're a totally different team with and without him."
The key to the Hawks with Young out has been Jalen Johnson. The former Duke forward has turned into a triple-double threat every time he takes the floor.

Johnson has looked like a face of the franchise-level player with Young out. And that's a game-changing reality.
Young is uber-talented, a great scorer and passer. But in his time in the league, he's never impacted winning to the extent you'd expect for someone with his numbers.

The Hawks' ceiling with Young probably isn't as high as they'd like. And this injury is giving them a chance to realize that letting Young walk may not be that bad an outcome after all.

The Sporting News

[Jamaaliver]

From The Ringer:

The Atlanta Hawks are quietly cooking without Trae

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The biggest question mark in the NBA right now is wearing street clothes, as Trae Young has missed the past nine games for the Atlanta Hawks because of a knee sprain. The injury comes at a tricky and fascinating time: Young and the Hawks did not reach an agreement on a long-term contract extension over the summer, and the four-time All-Star has a player option after this season that suddenly seems like the most fascinating subplot in the league.

Why? Because there’s a growing chorus around the NBA that believes Atlanta might be better off without him.


The Hawks are 2-3 in the five games they have played with Young in the lineup; they are 7-2 in the nine games he’s missed. More specifically, the Trae-less Hawks have won five straight games, including going undefeated on a four-game road trip out West. If you’re wondering when Atlanta last swept a trip like that, the answer is never.

More to the point, key indicators like this are getting harder to ignore: In 139 minutes with Young on the floor this season, the Hawks have a net rating of –9.2. In 533 minutes without him, their net rating is +6.4.

Let’s get nerdier. Here’s what this disparity looks like in the leaguewide efficiency landscape.

As you can see, when Young is off the floor, the Hawks profile as a contender, exhibiting marks similar to those of the East-leading Pistons. But with Young on the floor, the team’s indicators look like Brooklyn’s.



It’s probably too early to conclude that they’re better without their four-time All-Star, especially when you consider that just last season (not ancient history), the Hawks could not score the ball without Young in the fold. But early on this year, the Trae-less Hawks are humming a different tune. Atlanta’s offensive rating without Young is up at 114.4 points per 100 possessions—and anyone who watched the Hawks beat the red-hot Suns in Phoenix on Sunday caught a glimpse of something scary: Atlanta ripped off 47 points in the final 12 minutes to come from behind and steal the road win. Offseason addition Nickeil Alexander-Walker, Dyson Daniels, Jalen Johnson, and Onyeka Okongwu played virtually the whole quarter and helped the team end the road trip with an exclamation point.

The lineups without Young are stacked with longer arms and taller frames, and so far this year, these groups have fared quite well, especially on defense. With Young on the floor, the team is allowing 123.2 points per 100, which would rank 28th in the NBA. When he’s out, that number drops to 108, which would rank second. The non-Trae lineups have an elite defensive ceiling to go with a more egalitarian offensive culture led by Johnson, who might just be an All-Star this season. It’s beginning to look like a new era is launching in Atlanta.

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That's correct. Hawks are averaging .1 more turnovers per game than last season.

Jalen Johnson leads the team with 3.1 per game.

Trae last season 4.7 per game.

NAW and DD combined average 4.7 which Trae averaged that by himself last season.

NAW and DD combined average 9.4 assists per game this year. Trae averaged 11.6 assists per game by himself last season.


Comparing Assist to Turnover Ratios:

• TY in 2025: 2.5 A/T Ratio
• DD in 2026: 2.5 A/T Ratio
• JJ in 2026: 2.1 A/T Ratio
• NAW in 2026: 1.5 A/T Ratio (The worst of every rotation player.)

I honestly could careless about his assist.

Hawks aren't winning with Trae but his assist might be one of a few positives about him.

I wonder if his teammates think his assist are a positive?

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Atlanta Hawks look like they don't need Trae Young

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The Atlanta Hawks were already going to have to make a decision on Trae Young.
He's set to be a free agent at the end of this season (assuming he declines a $48.9 million player option), and there's a world in which the Hawks don't try that hard to bring him back.

It all has to do with what's happening right now. Young hasn't played since spraining his knee on Oct. 29. In Young's absence, the Hawks have gone 7-2.

ESPN also shared that the Hawks rank fourth in defensive efficiency in the NBA with Young out, and they've never finished better than 18th in a season since they've had Young.

"I think the Trae Young situation is fascinating," a Western Conference executive told ESPN. "They're a totally different team with and without him."
The key to the Hawks with Young out has been Jalen Johnson. The former Duke forward has turned into a triple-double threat every time he takes the floor.

Johnson has looked like a face of the franchise-level player with Young out. And that's a game-changing reality.
Young is uber-talented, a great scorer and passer. But in his time in the league, he's never impacted winning to the extent you'd expect for someone with his numbers.

The Hawks' ceiling with Young probably isn't as high as they'd like. And this injury is giving them a chance to realize that letting Young walk may not be that bad an outcome after all.

The Sporting News

Talk around the league and forums has been that Trae is the problem. Glad the media is catching on.

Fans of other teams have realized it for years. Which is why they don't want him.

[Jamaaliver]

I honestly could careless about his assist.

Talk around the league and forums has been that Trae is the problem. Glad the media is catching on.

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[Jamaaliver]

Hawks offense is limited to 3-pt shooting and fast break opportunities when Trae is out.
When those aren't falling...it gets ugly quickly.

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Hawks offense is limited to 3-pt shooting and fast break opportunities when Trae is out.
When those aren't falling...it gets ugly quickly.

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Hawks lost the fast break battle against the Spurs and Pistons. Two games straight so it draws a red flag. We have beat our opponents in fast break for most of the games Trae has missed.

Back on track against the Pels.

Hawks 15, Pels 8

[HMFFL]

Fast Break Points vs Opponents without Trae

Hawks 15
Pels 8

Hawks 6
Spurs 19

Hawks 6
Pistons 17

Hawks 19
Suns 5

Hawks 23
Jazz 19

Hawks 33
Kings 8

Hawks 44
Clips 42

Hawks 22
Lakers 8

Hawks 11
Raptors 21

Hawks 23
Magic 16

Hawks 14
Cavs 27

Hawks 28
Pacers 8
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With Trae
Hawks 18
Nets 5

Hawks 21
Bulls 22

Hawks 9
OKC 13

Hawks 18
Magic 15

Hawks 11
Raptors 34

Hawks rank 6th in the league in fastbreak points with 17.5 per game. Last season 17.1, 2023-2024 13.4, 2023-2022 13.2

[jayu70]

Hawks rank 6th in the league in fastbreak points with 17.5 per game. Last season 17.1, 2023-2024 13.4, 2023-2022 13.2

We saw the change in Quin's offense getting the ball up court quickly last season to get early points.

[HMFFL]

Hawks rank 6th in the league in fastbreak points with 17.5 per game. Last season 17.1, 2023-2024 13.4, 2023-2022 13.2

We saw the change in Quin's offense getting the ball up court quickly last season to get early points.

I agree.
I think the team without Trae is getting the ball up the court quicker than Trae was. What do you think?

[jayu70]

Hawks rank 6th in the league in fastbreak points with 17.5 per game. Last season 17.1, 2023-2024 13.4, 2023-2022 13.2

We saw the change in Quin's offense getting the ball up court quickly last season to get early points.

I agree.
I think the team without Trae is getting the ball up the court quicker than Trae was. What do you think?

To start last season with JJ, that transition was already happening, same with this season with Trae off the ball.
It has to happen even more so without Trae since our halfcourt offense is abysmal without him.
You have to have players capable of pushing the pace and finishers to go along with it.

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Hawks' Trae Young serves Thanksgiving meals

Atlanta Hawks' Trae Young and The Trae Young Family Foundation partnered with the Atlanta Mission at Shepherd's Inn to serve warm meals to those who may not have received one for Thanksgiving on Wednesday.

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/video/1747966