Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2)

[jayu70]

NBA Trade Ideas Off Latest Buzz:

3-Team Blockbuster Between Atlanta, New Orleans, Utah (After Jan. 14)



Atlanta Hawks Receive: Dante Exum, Solomon Hill, Wesley Johnson, Ian Clark, 2019 first-round pick (lottery-protected, via New Orleans), 2020 first-round pick (lottery-protected, via Utah)

New Orleans Pelicans Receive: Justin Anderson, Ricky Rubio, Thabo Sefolosha

Utah Jazz Receive: Kent Bazemore, Jeremy Lin

Kent Bazemore and Jeremy Lin continue to garner interest around the league, according to the New York Times' Marc Stein. Utah needs both of them.

Utah coughing up a first-rounder will feel awkward while bringing back Bazemore's salary. He's far from a bargain at $19.3 million in 2018-19 (player option). But Exum is owed about the same over the next two years ($19.2 million), and his pay grade tilts closer to bad money after spending the season waffling in and out of head coach Quin Snyder's "You're Not Really Going to Play Much" house.
The Jazz can look at this deal as salary-cap consolidation. Paying Bazemore cleans up the 2020 books, and the Jazz could still get to almost $25 million in cap space this summer if they waive Derrick Favors. They'll dredge up even more than that should they waive Kyle Korver or reroute the salaries of Tony Bradley or Grayson Allen.


Two protected first-rounders should be enough for the Hawks to absorb Hill and Exum. The latter doesn't turn 24 until July, is a defensive whiz and could end up being a good backup—or backcourt partner—for Trae Young.

That the Hawks wouldn't be (scheduled) to get both picks at once also helps. They're slated to have four total selections in this year's draft. Nabbing a 2020 choice allows them to spread out their talent acquisition and evaluation.

Bleacher Report

I posted this exact trade 2 days ago...somebody loves my ideas! Yessss.

I'd make this deal. Swapping Baze for Hill saves $6 mil, adding Exum adds $10 mill so the reduction in next years capspace is approx. $4 million. Exum backing up and adjacent to Trae in the backcourt i like.

[macd-gm]

What's the Pelicans incentive to do that deal? I"m asking not questioning. Too lazy to look up if it saves them money.

[Spud2nique]

What's the Pelicans incentive to do that deal? I"m asking not questioning. Too lazy to look up if it saves them money.

They get a perimeter wing who can supposedly play defense...

[jayu70]

What's the Pelicans incentive to do that deal? I"m asking not questioning. Too lazy to look up if it saves them money.

1. Etwan Moore is their starting SF, backed up by Darius Miller, Wesley Johnson and coming off injury Solomon Hill - Thabo should help
2. Tim Frazier is their starting PG (really), Frank Jackson and an injured Elfrid Payton - Rubio would be an upgrade.
3. Mirotic is injured again - Justin Anderson can play backup 4
4. Most importantly, they get to dump Solomon's $13 mil next season.

[King Ken]

I don't see Brooklyn doing a deal where they are trading their expiring contracts. It's possible but I don't see it. LAL clearly are not doing it. They want to have space for AD and Durant.

What about to Pelicans for Hill, Wes and a pick? We can get off the books with those two this summer and more flexibility comes our way.

Bleacher report stole my trade! Well minus getting exum on the three teamer.

I see

[tbhawksfan1]

Trade Deadline season approaching. What's TS going to do? Get some young/draft assets or strike out like last year. Dedmon / Baze / Lin are obvious trade pieces. What's he going to do?

[Spud2nique]

Trade Deadline season approaching. What's TS going to do? Get some young/draft assets or strike out like last year. Dedmon / Baze / Lin are obvious trade pieces. What's he going to do?

Hmmm...well last year didn’t really present as many opportunities for him as this year. He’s gonna do something. He almost has to make at least one trade involving a vet.

[tbhawksfan1]

Trade Deadline season approaching. What's TS going to do? Get some young/draft assets or strike out like last year. Dedmon / Baze / Lin are obvious trade pieces. What's he going to do?

Hmmm...well last year didn’t really present as many opportunities for him as this year. He’s gonna do something. He almost has to make at least one trade involving a vet.

The opportunities didn't present themselves because TS didn't shop the best trade asset; Dedmon and didn't bother to sign any tradeable FA the previous off-season. He totally failed to exploit what was considered the best draft in a while trading #3 and #34

[macd-gm]

Trade Deadline season approaching. What's TS going to do? Get some young/draft assets or strike out like last year. Dedmon / Baze / Lin are obvious trade pieces. What's he going to do?

Hmmm...well last year didn’t really present as many opportunities for him as this year. He’s gonna do something. He almost has to make at least one trade involving a vet.

The opportunities didn't present themselves because TS didn't shop the best trade asset; Dedmon and didn't bother to sign any tradeable FA the previous off-season. He totally failed to exploit what was considered the best draft in a while trading #3 and #34

Who would have been a tradeable free agent to sign?

We had 3 first round picks in a great draft. It's important to have good picks in multiple drafts when rebuilding even if some drafts are weaker than others.

[King Ken]

Hmmm...well last year didn’t really present as many opportunities for him as this year. He’s gonna do something. He almost has to make at least one trade involving a vet.

The opportunities didn't present themselves because TS didn't shop the best trade asset; Dedmon and didn't bother to sign any tradeable FA the previous off-season. He totally failed to exploit what was considered the best draft in a while trading #3 and #34

Who would have been a tradeable free agent to sign?

We had 3 first round picks in a great draft. It's important to have good picks in multiple drafts when rebuilding even if some drafts are weaker than others.

Not really feeling this draft. Once you start breaking down the tape. It's only handful of ready guys and then some of the ones who aren't ready, aren't close to being NBA quality not ready. This class just lacks that. It's like the 2016 class where Brogdon won ROY but we actually have a legit top 2 guys in Barrett and Zion. For us Barrett, Zion, Reddish and maybe Bol.

My values haven't changed.

Prince is just not on the market unless someone offers us something we can't refuse which I doubt. We could likely get a lottery pick for him during the draft on a team that needs a starting level SF. No point in selling low. Neither way, he isn't on the market anyway.

Baze needs to stay unless someone gets us a good deal. He makes it easier if we do draft someone like Reddish that they can learn and get quality time like with Trae and Lin. His contract isn't even bad anymore for now.

I am okay with moving Dedmon, I just don't see the market for him. I also don't want to cut him for the playoff roster teams since we not really tanking this year.

Lin doesn't have much trade value due to his salary so he needs to stay and I hope we can resign him this summer as Trae's backup. I like Jeremy in this role.

All in all, I would like to trade Baze but this teams want to little and he does have value. With the odds change, we don't really have to stink to have a chance at a top pick.

[King Ken]

Trade Deadline season approaching. What's TS going to do? Get some young/draft assets or strike out like last year. Dedmon / Baze / Lin are obvious trade pieces. What's he going to do?

Hmmm...well last year didn’t really present as many opportunities for him as this year. He’s gonna do something. He almost has to make at least one trade involving a vet.

The opportunities didn't present themselves because TS didn't shop the best trade asset; Dedmon and didn't bother to sign any tradeable FA the previous off-season. He totally failed to exploit what was considered the best draft in a while trading #3 and #34

He did shop Dedmon. Teams wanted to offered a couple #2s and ask for us to take some money back. Atlanta refused. They also offered #2 for Ersan. Atlanta refused and for good reason as well. I am fine with it. Having that money not on our books is how we were able to get Dennis out of here and how we got OKC 1st in 2023

[Spud2nique]

Wiggins for Jabari would be poetic justice..2 top prospects from 2014...wow lol..both morons now.

[tbhawksfan1]

Hmmm...well last year didn’t really present as many opportunities for him as this year. He’s gonna do something. He almost has to make at least one trade involving a vet.

The opportunities didn't present themselves because TS didn't shop the best trade asset; Dedmon and didn't bother to sign any tradeable FA the previous off-season. He totally failed to exploit what was considered the best draft in a while trading #3 and #34

He did shop Dedmon. Teams wanted to offered a couple #2s and ask for us to take some money back. Atlanta refused. They also offered #2 for Ersan. Atlanta refused and for good reason as well. I am fine with it. Having that money not on our books is how we were able to get Dennis out of here and how we got OKC 1st in 2023

Didn't hear about him making Ded available. Maybe he shoulda signed a FA or two that actually had some trade value.

I'm not big on mentoring and think Baze is better used for future assets. We need much better than him on the wing. no reason to keep him around to be an aging bench piece longterm and taking minutes from young guys shortterm

[dms269]

Don't free agents have to agree to be signed as well? Atlanta would have had to offer stupid money to free agents to get them to come to Atlanta (who of the "top ones" would have signed with Atlanta?). That in turn kills their trade value.

[Jamaaliver]

Wiggins for Jabari would be poetic justice..2 top prospects from 2014...wow lol..both morons now.

I still believe both these guys have another chapter and more good basketball in them.

They've been in bad situations under questionable coaching the last couple of years.

Jabari has also dealt with numerous, serious injuries. He might be best suited as a scorer off the bench for a veteran team (if he can check his ego).

Wiggins has all the tools, but seems mentally weak and entitled. He needs a change of scenery quickly.

[King Ken]

I think we need to realize why expirings is so critical this offseason. Because only a few teams actually have cap space. Since the Knicks suck, they don't have any space after the sign their pick. We have about 30 after the signings. We are likely to have maybe 10-12 million in signings from the draft. We would have about 28 million in cap space. Honestly, there is more value to me in giving Baze away for free in Jan than getting a couple late 1sts. Cap space is a premium this offseason. Teams like New Orleans will be looking to get more space to sign a key FA. We will have options.

That's why its critical for us to keep Lin and Dedmon even if they don't resign. Because we can use that cap space to get a major haul in a trade. Cap space is actually valuable this offseason. Even if we get no FAs.

[Spud2nique]

Wiggins for Jabari would be poetic justice..2 top prospects from 2014...wow lol..both morons now.

I still believe both these guys have another chapter and more good basketball in them.

They've been in bad situations under questionable coaching the last couple of years.

Jabari has also dealt with numerous, serious injuries. He might be best suited as a scorer off the bench for a veteran team (if he can check his ego).

Wiggins has all the tools, but seems mentally weak and entitled. He needs a change of scenery quickly.

Wiggins can have all the tools but he’s missing heart. Get that first, and a change of scenery. Jabari is just having fat fun right now.

[Jamaaliver]

I think we need to realize why expirings is so critical this offseason. Because only a few teams actually have cap space. Cap space is actually valuable this offseason. Even if we get no FAs.

Serious question -- are you sure about this?

Remember the summer of 2016 when the cap spiked and some very questionable contracts were handed out? If so, you might shudder when you read that history seems poised to repeat itself in the summer of 2019. The NBA’s salary cap is projected to jump from just under $102 million for the 2018-19 season to $109 million for the 2019-20 season. This means multiple teams will be flush with cap space in July of 2019.

RealGM: Aug 2018

[King Ken]

I think we need to realize why expirings is so critical this offseason. Because only a few teams actually have cap space. Cap space is actually valuable this offseason. Even if we get no FAs.

Serious question -- are you sure about this?

Remember the summer of 2016 when the cap spiked and some very questionable contracts were handed out? If so, you might shudder when you read that history seems poised to repeat itself in the summer of 2019. The NBA’s salary cap is projected to jump from just under $102 million for the 2018-19 season to $109 million for the 2019-20 season. This means multiple teams will be flush with cap space in July of 2019.

RealGM: Aug 2018

Yes, 100% sure.
Jamaal, 14 teams have cap spaces.

Of those 14 teams, 10 of them have real cap space after the draft. Meaning that they are not resigning young cheap players to big deals. Some of those like LAL, Indy, and Brooklyn have the toughest decisions. Brooklyn is like Orlando last year. LAL is using their cap space to try and land a superstar prospect. Indy has to see if they can land a star. I could see them making a strong push for Kemba but word out of Charlotte is Kemba has a wink wink deal for the full max next year.

That leaves 7 teams with legit cap space. Of those teams, LAC, UTA, Dallas, PHX, and SAC via trade is expected to be major players this offseason. LAC while a major player is expected to resign their FAs if they miss on the superstars like Durant and Leonard. This is going to be an interesting class.

That leaves just two teams, Chicago and Atlanta in the asset building stage. With teams being more close than ever, expect teams to try to trade into FA like Orlando to get a key FA with Mozzy contract. Also watch for Toronto to offer Lowry if Leonard leaves. That could open us up for a couple 1sts in a deal.

[King Ken]

Wiggins for Jabari would be poetic justice..2 top prospects from 2014...wow lol..both morons now.

That would be a horrendous value for the Bulls. Bulls wouldn't touch it.