Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2)

[Jamaaliver]

Radio guy yesterday threw this out there:

Baze (expiring deal)
Prince (young asset)
Huerter (young asset)
1st round pick (so long as not Number 1 overall)

FOR Bradley Beal.

Do you do the deal?

You'd have to at least consider it. Losing Huerter would hurt. But he doesn't realistically profile to be as good as Beal. Neither does anyone else we'd get at #5 or below in this draft.

I'd have to mull it over really hard.

Beal-Collins-Trae + a top-10 draft selection still has us on pace to be a top team in the future. (And with 2 full years of Beal, we could still move him intrade for future value.)



My biggest concern -- is Brad Beal going to be comfortable taking a backseat to Trae Young in the offense. Cause the Hawks are his show.

[atlantabbq99]

Huerter > Beal

[hawks_fan25]

Assuming we are in play for Klay, I'd much rather straight up sign Klay and play him alongside Trae and Huerter in the backcourt than trade for Beal. Klay and Huerter can make up for Trae's lack of defense and that would be a new trio of splash brothers.

[atlantabbq99]

I think Klay is staying, but Durant is good as gone, even if they win a championship.

I think Klay's dad already told him that legacy is much more important than money and growing up as a rich kid, I don't think Klay cares too much about money like other pro athletes .

[hawks_fan25]

I agree, I think Klay stays out there. I'd still make an offer to him though. I also would not make that trade for Beal. A backcourt of Trae and Beal would be undersized and unable to guard anyone. Huerter is a better fit to play alongside Trae.

[kg01]

I'm down on Klay. He's a spoon-fed kitten. Everybody wows about him scoring 40-whatever points on 6 dribbles or whatever. But all that tells me is he's not a guy capable of getting his own shot. Pass. We need a guy that can create his own offense, not a spot-up shooter. May as well get Dan E. Green.

That smells a little strong but I don't think I'm that far off.

[MaceCase]

I'm down on Klay. He's a spoon-fed kitten. Everybody wows about him scoring 40-whatever points on 6 dribbles or whatever. But all that tells me is he's not a guy capable of getting his own shot. Pass. We need a guy that can create his own offense, not a spot-up shooter. May as well get Dan E. Green.

That smells a little strong but I don't think I'm that far off.

Lil harsh but I'm rolling. I don't think he works here (or much anywhere) as a de facto #1 as his next contract would suggest unless Trae really develops to a top tier scoring and passing guard for him to play all the way off of.

He needs a bunch of other stars to play off of unless they want a new age Pacers team with him being Reggie and 4 other goons to hand check guards and hip check on "screens".

[Jamaaliver]

I think Klay's dad already told him that legacy is much more important than money and growing up as a rich kid, I don't think Klay cares too much about money like other pro athletes .

And I think this is where we can appeal to him. Particularly since we have multiple execs who already have a relationship with him (plus a Curry clone who's younger but not quite as good).

Klay can cement his legacy by winning elsewhere. Outside of Steph's shadow.


When we think of those great Lakers teams his dad won with, most people think of Magic and Kareem.

Maybe if you're old enough to remember, you think of James Worthy and Byron Scott. And that's currently where Klay stands. As the James Worthy of his squad.

Curry has become an undeniable superstar. Durant is regarded as the second best player of his generation.

And Klay is really good, too.

That's his current predicament. He's become Scottie Pippen to Curry's MJ. He can change that perception by winning elsewhere.


Can that elsewhere be Atlanta? Should it be? That's a much tougher sell. But when he already has 3+ titles and hundreds of millions of dollars...


Legacy is the only thing left for him to pursue.





And yes. I believe Klay can be a #1 option scoring 25+ points a game here. Particularly if we add 2 more lottery picks this year. Is that enough to win a title?

[Jamaaliver]

Add'l NOTE: If Klay really wants to win outside of GSW, he should find a way to get to either Milwaukee or Philadelphia.

He'd be deadly playing off of Giannis or Ben Simmons.

[Spud2nique]

I’m in the stick with Huerter camp. Even if Beal ends up having a career, for Huerter to be playing next to Trae is what makes me most valuable to me. I’m not saying Beal wouldn’t look good next to Trae, but Huerter is a natural fit.

I’m not a fan of getting any Warrior, specially a Klay with 220,000 miles on him already for 2011 model.

Let’s draft and continue to grow. I know we gotta cash in at some point but we are a year early on considering any big names imo.

[MaceCase]

I still think Huerter is going to place closer to Batum than Klay. Just doesn't seem to have the scorer's mentality and wants to affect the game in multiple ways, not just tirelessly running around screens hunting his shot.

[King Ken]

I still think Huerter is going to place closer to Batum than Klay. Just doesn't seem to have the scorer's mentality and wants to affect the game in multiple ways, not just tirelessly running around screens hunting his shot.

I agree. He likes passing a lot more than Klay

[Spud2nique]

I still think Huerter is going to place closer to Batum than Klay. Just doesn't seem to have the scorer's mentality and wants to affect the game in multiple ways, not just tirelessly running around screens hunting his shot.

I agree. He likes passing a lot more than Klay

Trae dwarfs Curry in his passing ability as we have seen and same thing applies with Klay. Huerter is an A- passer for a SG in my opinion, Klay is a B-/C+ passer to me.

They both shoot like shooting machines though that’s where you can’t hide the similarities.

[Nathan2331]

What do y'all think of a Prince trade for Monte Morris of the Nuggets and a pick? I like Taurean, but unless he's happy to come off the bench I'm not sure I'd want to give him a new deal once he's hit free agency. He's valuable, but his defense isn't great enough for what the Hawks need. Morris has a very high Assists-TO ratio (5.7 to 1 per 36) and he's got some height at 6'3". I don't watch enough nuggets games to know how well of a fit he'd be, but the numbers paint a positive picture.

[Night Traen]

I still think Huerter is going to place closer to Batum than Klay. Just doesn't seem to have the scorer's mentality and wants to affect the game in multiple ways, not just tirelessly running around screens hunting his shot.

Dude's gonna gain confidence the older he gets. KH is the most legit ginger in the NBA and I look forward to his firefro for years to come.

[Vae Victus]

If Kyrie bolts, Horford opts in his 30m, and BOS decides to blow it up. Would yall do Horford for Plumlee + Spellman + 2022 OKC SRP? Lets assume no Zion (otherwise i'd start Collins/Zion at the 4/5 personally).

Horford gives the team 1 year of above avg C play and comes off the cap the following season. Would be a nice steady grizzled vet to help the young bigs develop.

[jayu70]

If Kyrie bolts, Horford opts in his 30m, and BOS decides to blow it up. Would yall do Horford for Plumlee + Spellman + 2022 OKC SRP? Lets assume no Zion (otherwise i'd start Collins/Zion at the 4/5 personally).

Horford gives the team 1 year of above avg C play and comes off the cap the following season. Would be a nice steady grizzled vet to help the young bigs develop.

I'd pass.
That bridge burned.

[King Ken]

Horford ain't opting in and that bridge is not burned. Horford is welcome back in OPEN arms in Atlanta. Those fans who are mad can be happy again when he leads us to a top 4 seed and Trae and John are all NBA

[Spud2nique]

I still think Huerter is going to place closer to Batum than Klay. Just doesn't seem to have the scorer's mentality and wants to affect the game in multiple ways, not just tirelessly running around screens hunting his shot.

Dude's gonna gain confidence the older he gets. KH is the most legit ginger in the NBA and I look forward to his firefro for years to come.

Are you Thomas from squawk?

[Night Traen]

I still think Huerter is going to place closer to Batum than Klay. Just doesn't seem to have the scorer's mentality and wants to affect the game in multiple ways, not just tirelessly running around screens hunting his shot.

Dude's gonna gain confidence the older he gets. KH is the most legit ginger in the NBA and I look forward to his firefro for years to come.

Are you Thomas from squawk?

No, I was an infrequent poster there (AzodL).