Appropriately early 2020 NBA Draft Thread

[CP War Hawks]

Recently I'd been lower on Oturu as I felt he had a sleuth footed thing going on laterally. But the recent matchup with Cockburn was interesting. He was able to body up KC pretty well who is listed at 7-0 290. KC himself looks very spry for that size.

I love this move at 19:40 from Oturu. I think he could be NBA ready with the combo of core strength, athleticism, and length. We all have Capela on the brain but this guy could be a more versatile version of him.

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[CP War Hawks]

No more Nets pick obviously. Looks like it's Antman or bust imo. I can also see Ball in the mix.

[shakes0]

No more Nets pick obviously. Looks like it's Antman or bust imo. I can also see Ball in the mix.

I don't see any way they take Ball. He's ball dominant. Pretty sure we already have a guy for that.


At this point the best move might be to trade down or even completely out of this **** show of a draft.


I guess Antman is intriguing, but he's been pretty meh in his year at Georgia. Not sure he has the IQ to play along Trae.

[Jamaaliver]

I’m convinced that if we keep our pick, Obi Toppin or Isaac Okoro have to be at the top of our watch lists.

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[shakes0]

I’m convinced that if we keep our pick, Obi Toppin or Isaac Okoro have to be at the top of our watch lists.

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Agreed, at this point it's time to grab some high floor/low ceiling guys who have a chance to be good right out of the gate.

No more projects.

[raleigh]

I don’t see why the Capela trade means no Wiseman.

[CP War Hawks]

No more Nets pick obviously. Looks like it's Antman or bust imo. I can also see Ball in the mix.

I don't see any way they take Ball. He's ball dominant. Pretty sure we already have a guy for that.


At this point the best move might be to trade down or even completely out of this **** show of a draft.


I guess Antman is intriguing, but he's been pretty meh in his year at Georgia. Not sure he has the IQ to play along Trae.

Ball is in the mix the same way Drummond was. As in tires had to be kicked as consideration.

Regarding antman, no at 18 he is not ready upstairs. But at age 21 is a different story. The primary reason pierce was brought in is to develop young talents like edwards

[Jamaaliver]

I don’t see why the Capela trade means no Wiseman.

Hawks have spent the past few months kicking the tires on a Center. The one they actually acquire is young, proven, on a reasonable contract for years to come.

Spoiler:

For more than a month now, the Hawks have been involved in several trade conversations surrounding the center position, from Steven Adams to Dewayne Dedmon and Andre Drummond. In the days leading up to Thursday’s trade deadline, it became clear that Adams likely was going to stay put with Oklahoma City...

So, the Hawks add a 25-year-old player who fits the timeline of Atlanta’s young core and is cost-controlled until the summer of 2023. The Hawks wanted a center who could be the anchor of their defense, and Capela fits that.

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Additionally, Wiseman has lost a ton of luster since last summer in the eyes of scouts.

With this (hopefully) being the last lottery pick we'll have for a while, it seems more likely we swing for a two way wing or a complementary star if we use the draft pick.

(There's also the chance we're looking for a Collins replacement at PF who pairs more ideally with Capela. Though, that seems unlikely.)

[No-Man]

I hope the Hawks get Anthony Edwards, it'd be a great situation for him as well, it's either him or Avdija for ATL imo in the top5

It seems like these guys will be here next year probably

Young-Teague
Huerter
Hunter-Reddish
Collins
Capela-Dedmon-Fernando

Not sure who else, Bembry is RFA may just stay on the QO I guess, he is alright, Goodwin and Brown are solid for 2-ways but those guys are always flexible

You got space at the 2-3-4, to add a guy with that top5 pick, since Reddish and Hunter are versatile, you can go BPA as long as it is a wing guy kinda

[No-Man]

Also would not shock me if ATL tries to get Beal, like offer the top pick, salary relief or filler, another young guy (Reddish or Huerter) some 2nds, Bruno

[shakes0]

No more Nets pick obviously. Looks like it's Antman or bust imo. I can also see Ball in the mix.

I don't see any way they take Ball. He's ball dominant. Pretty sure we already have a guy for that.


At this point the best move might be to trade down or even completely out of this **** show of a draft.


I guess Antman is intriguing, but he's been pretty meh in his year at Georgia. Not sure he has the IQ to play along Trae.

Ball is in the mix the same way Drummond was. As in tires had to be kicked as consideration.

Regarding antman, no at 18 he is not ready upstairs. But at age 21 is a different story. The primary reason pierce was brought in is to develop young talents like edwards

Watched Georgia again last night. Sure they blew it, but I've seen enough. Antman is the guy if the Hawks get the #1 pick, especially now that they have Capela and Dedmon. No need to even look at Wiseman.

Trae and Edwards together would be a lethal offensive backcourt. With their ability to shoot from distance and also break guys down off the dribble it would be a nightmare for defenses that like to try and trap and double Trae up high.

[CP War Hawks]

I don't see any way they take Ball. He's ball dominant. Pretty sure we already have a guy for that.


At this point the best move might be to trade down or even completely out of this **** show of a draft.


I guess Antman is intriguing, but he's been pretty meh in his year at Georgia. Not sure he has the IQ to play along Trae.

Ball is in the mix the same way Drummond was. As in tires had to be kicked as consideration.

Regarding antman, no at 18 he is not ready upstairs. But at age 21 is a different story. The primary reason pierce was brought in is to develop young talents like edwards

Watched Georgia again last night. Sure they blew it, but I've seen enough. Antman is the guy if the Hawks get the #1 pick, especially now that they have Capela and Dedmon. No need to even look at Wiseman.

Trae and Edwards together would be a lethal offensive backcourt. With their ability to shoot from distance and also break guys down off the dribble it would be a nightmare for defenses that like to try and trap and double Trae up high.

Yeah man, if you just give him the ball, he can go nuclear. Trae is the only other guy on the team that's capable of that. 6-5 225 he's physically ready at just 18. I have confidence in the coaching staff to get him in tune sooner rather than later.

Nesmith is also a guy that can have scoring outburst as well but Edwards is just more talented. We'll see how the lotto treats the Hawks this cycle.

Also wanted to add Ant is a native that wants to represent his city. A potential star that actually is motivated to bring a championship to his hometown is what excites me the most.

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[kg01]

I'd still take Wiseman since he now doesn't have to play.

[jayu70]

I don't see any way they take Ball. He's ball dominant. Pretty sure we already have a guy for that.


At this point the best move might be to trade down or even completely out of this **** show of a draft.


I guess Antman is intriguing, but he's been pretty meh in his year at Georgia. Not sure he has the IQ to play along Trae.

Ball is in the mix the same way Drummond was. As in tires had to be kicked as consideration.

Regarding antman, no at 18 he is not ready upstairs. But at age 21 is a different story. The primary reason pierce was brought in is to develop young talents like edwards

Watched Georgia again last night. Sure they blew it, but I've seen enough. Antman is the guy if the Hawks get the #1 pick, especially now that they have Capela and Dedmon. No need to even look at Wiseman.

Trae and Edwards together would be a lethal offensive backcourt. With their ability to shoot from distance and also break guys down off the dribble it would be a nightmare for defenses that like to try and trap and double Trae up high.

We should take BPA whoever that is.
I'm not advocating we select Wiseman, but why not if TS views him as BPA?
Big men in general take longer to develop, we can afford to take a patient approach.
I see Dedmon as a 1 year deal for next season. So Wiseman can learn a thing or two.
What if the Capela/Collins duo doesn't mesh? We can always trade Capela after next season, if Wiseman is ready to take the reigns. (I'm just spitballing of course).
I'm just saying I wouldn't automatically discount Wiseman due to Capela and Dedmon.

[shakes0]

Ball is in the mix the same way Drummond was. As in tires had to be kicked as consideration.

Regarding antman, no at 18 he is not ready upstairs. But at age 21 is a different story. The primary reason pierce was brought in is to develop young talents like edwards

Watched Georgia again last night. Sure they blew it, but I've seen enough. Antman is the guy if the Hawks get the #1 pick, especially now that they have Capela and Dedmon. No need to even look at Wiseman.

Trae and Edwards together would be a lethal offensive backcourt. With their ability to shoot from distance and also break guys down off the dribble it would be a nightmare for defenses that like to try and trap and double Trae up high.

We should take BPA whoever that is.
I'm not advocating we select Wiseman, but why not if TS views him as BPA?
Big men in general take longer to develop, we can afford to take a patient approach.
I see Dedmon as a 1 year deal for next season. So Wiseman can learn a thing or two.
What if the Capela/Collins duo doesn't mesh? We can always trade Capela after next season, if Wiseman is ready to take the reigns. (I'm just spitballing of course).
I'm just saying I wouldn't automatically discount Wiseman due to Capela and Dedmon.

I agree on BPA, but I think it's pretty clear that Edwards is the BPA. Wiseman will never be considered a better prospect than Edwards. I've seen enough of Edwards now to be sure of that.

[Jamaaliver]

It's unlikely to occur now that we are (too?) heavy at Center, but this is the guy I wanted in the 1st round...

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[Jamaaliver]

I don’t see why the Capela trade means no Wiseman.

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[raleigh]

Teams at the top aren't drafting for short-term need. They're drafting for potential ability.

[D21]

We should take BPA whoever that is.
I'm not advocating we select Wiseman, but why not if TS views him as BPA?
Big men in general take longer to develop, we can afford to take a patient approach.
I see Dedmon as a 1 year deal for next season. So Wiseman can learn a thing or two.
What if the Capela/Collins duo doesn't mesh? We can always trade Capela after next season, if Wiseman is ready to take the reigns. (I'm just spitballing of course).
I'm just saying I wouldn't automatically discount Wiseman due to Capela and Dedmon.

I agree with that, and more if we can't know exactly what a Capela-Collins-Deadmon rotation is able to do.

At this moment, and with the fact that Collins was out for 25 games, we have the worst frontcourt in the league in term of efficiency difference according to Hoopstats.
It doesn't say all, but strangely, the top teams in the league in record are also the top teams in frontcourt efficiency difference (LAL, MIL, LAC, DEN, TOR, BOS, PHI...)... but not necessary the same top 3 in backcourt : HOU is the top team in backcourt Eff Diff, followed by DAL, OKC, BOS, PHI, TOR, MIA, POR, MIL...

We need a better frontcourt, but we don't know at this moment what the new frontcourt can do, and next year, Hunter will aslo be better than this year... so it would be good have a taste of it to imagine what they can do next seasons. If it doesn't mesh like we think, I see no problem to draft a C.
If they seem to have a great potential, lets draft a scoring wing

[Ball4life32]

I’m still all in on Wiseman. But I also think a lot of people underrate him. He’s almost like Collins where he’s so good around the basket people underrate other aspects of his game imo.

I am as high on Collins as any but it’s also hard to find a C that really fits next to him. There are only a few guys in the league right now that would.

Lloyd has said (& I agree) that ideally ALL 5 guys on the floor can shoot. At the same time we don’t want to play small ball for the fear of getting killed defensively & on the boards. Love the Capela pickup(much better than any C we had) but he’s never gonna be a guy that can stretch the floor.

I have not seen many 7+ footers with his handle in high school. He also makes multiple jump shots / step backs & some off the dribble that are impressive for his size.

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We didn’t see him much in college unfortunately but he averaged 20/11 in only 23 mins on ridiculous efficiency so nothing I saw changed my mind. He is still a little raw but I really like the potential on his jump shot. He doesn’t have to be an elite shooter or anything but at least have some ability to stretch the floor.

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He’s also a very good athlete with a 7’6 wingspan. Really good shot blocker & thought he looked really good defensively though incredibly small sample size. Can he be a defense anchor is the question? Not 100% sure but he has that potential.

The one thing that scares me is some have said he has motor problems. No clue if that’s true or not however.

So Wiseman is the potential perfect fit next to Collins on both ends which is incredibly rare to find. And he obviously fits perfectly with the timeline. Also like how he runs like a gazelle in the open court much like Collins. I’ve seen him beating small guys down the court with his speed which again is a perfect for our fast paced offense.

My #2 would be Edwards. Some things that scare me about him but he would fit well. Him + Capela (thank god the ridiculous rumors of signing Drummond this offseason will stop now) would give this team a nice boost as well.