Atlanta Hawks win #1 Pick in 2024 Draft Lottery

[tbhawksfan1]

For the exact same reason that this is considered a weak draft class.

NBA Scouts, Coaches and Executives don't believe Alex Sarr will be very good.

So why don't the mocks and expert consensus propose a #1 that they think will be good?

For the exact same reason that this is considered a weak draft class.

...there isn't a player the equivalent of a true #1 overall pick this year.

There is no such thing as a "true #1". Each draft is independant of others. Whoever is drafted #1 will be the #1 pick

You don't like Sarr. That doesn't mean he will bust

You sound like King Ken when he hated that we landed the #1

It"s a good thing. Make the best of it

[Jamaaliver]

There is no such thing as a "true #1". Each draft is independent of others. Whoever is drafted #1 will be the #1 pick

You don't like Sarr. That doesn't mean he will bust

You sound like King Ken when he hated that we landed the #1

It"s a good thing. Make the best of it

I actually don't dislike Sarr as a player.

I don't believe he will be a bust. His defense and athleticism will keep him in an NBA rotation for years to come.

I actually howled in excitement when we won that #1 pick.

But analysts and scouts have bemoaned all year how weak this draft class is.
And the reason is that there is no clear elite talent at the top.

The consensus is that Sarr or Risacher will go #1, but that would not be the case in most draft classes. They are flawed, one way players with no elite offensive skills.

And if we're trying to truly compete next season (jobs are on the line), waiting for Risacher to learn how to dribble or for Sarr to learn to play through contact aren't in the timeline.

[tbhawksfan1]

There is no such thing as a "true #1". Each draft is independent of others. Whoever is drafted #1 will be the #1 pick

You don't like Sarr. That doesn't mean he will bust

You sound like King Ken when he hated that we landed the #1

It"s a good thing. Make the best of it

I actually don't dislike Sarr as a player.

I don't believe he will be a bust. His defense and athleticism will keep him in an NBA rotation for years to come.

I actually howled in excitement when we won that #1 pick.

But analysts and scouts have bemoaned all year how weak this draft class is.
And the reason is that there is no clear elite talent at the top.

The consensus is that Sarr or Risacher will go #1, but that would not be the case in most draft classes. They are flawed, one way players with no elite offensive skills.

And if we're trying to truly compete next season (jobs are on the line), waiting for Risacher to learn how to dribble or for Sarr to learn to play through contact aren't in the timeline.

So instead of hating on the draft what do you propose the team should do? I am completely open to a trade of the pick if it nets a good deal. If not then I'm for drafting Sarr and hoping that he can go far to reaching his high ceiling

A trade down to a lesser pick and a marginal player is not my idea of a good outcome

[CP War Hawks]

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TY finally some real news. If they hold at 1, it's gonna be Sarr.

[CP War Hawks]

There is no such thing as a "true #1". Each draft is independent of others. Whoever is drafted #1 will be the #1 pick

You don't like Sarr. That doesn't mean he will bust

You sound like King Ken when he hated that we landed the #1

It"s a good thing. Make the best of it

I actually don't dislike Sarr as a player.

I don't believe he will be a bust. His defense and athleticism will keep him in an NBA rotation for years to come.

I actually howled in excitement when we won that #1 pick.

But analysts and scouts have bemoaned all year how weak this draft class is.
And the reason is that there is no clear elite talent at the top.

The consensus is that Sarr or Risacher will go #1, but that would not be the case in most draft classes. They are flawed, one way players with no elite offensive skills.

And if we're trying to truly compete next season (jobs are on the line), waiting for Risacher to learn how to dribble or for Sarr to learn to play through contact aren't in the timeline.

All of the analysts are terrible and have been for quite some time. It's to the point I will trust my own evals over anything those guys say. Yes it's no Wemby so it's considered a bad draft by them.

Sarr in a vacuum probably isn't a good top pick. But what those scouts don't take into account is the fit with this Hawks roster. Trae will elevate his off game and OO/JJ will accentuate his already strong def prowess.

He's already galactically above CC in ball handling, passing, switching, just about everything except rebounding.

[Jamaaliver]

So instead of hating on the draft what do you propose the team should do? I am completely open to a trade of the pick if it nets a good deal. If not then I'm for drafting Sarr and hoping that he can go far to reaching his high ceiling

A trade down to a lesser pick and a marginal player is not my idea of a good outcome

This is all fair, brother.

Taking Sarr at #1 and hoping he develops into an All Star is a solid worst case scenario.

I've already mentioned my preferences, and you've shot down every single one. (Always a fun time.)

I'd likely trade back with San Antonio for #4 and #8.

Since we're in a win-or-go-home season, I'm likely moving at least one of those selections for a veteran player.

[Jamaaliver]

Sarr in a vacuum probably isn't a good top pick. But what those scouts don't take into account is the fit with this Hawks roster. Trae will elevate his off game and OO/JJ will accentuate his already strong def prowess.

He's already galactically above CC in ball handling, passing, switching, just about everything except rebounding.

All of this is true.

But what happens if those guys aren't around?

Jalen sounds like he's in the team's long term plans, but Okongwu has already been on the trade block.

Trae just signed with a new agent and has been making not so subtle threats for weeks now.

If this season were to fall apart and veteran players get moved in trade, Alex Sarr averaging 18 points, 7 rebounds and 3 blocks won't be enough to lead us anywhere anytime soon.

[HMFFL]

Updated Odds:


NBA Draft No. 1 Overall Pick Odds
Alexandre Sarr -135
Zaccharie Risacher +160
Donovan Clingan +500
Reed Sheppard +2400
Matas Buzelis +6000
Robert Dillingham +10000
Stephon Castle +10000
Nikola Topic +15000
Zach Edey +30000
Bronny James +30000
Odds Provided by Fanduel - Subject to Change

NBA Draft No. 2 Overall Pick Odds
Zaccharie Risacher +125
Alexandre Sarr +170
Donovan Clingan +390
Reed Sheppard +1000
Stephon Castle +2200
Matas Buzelis +5000
Robert Dillingham +6000
Nikola Topic +6000
Bronny James +20000
Zach Edey +20000
Odds Provided by Fanduel - Subject to Change

NBA Draft No. 3 Overall Pick Odds
Reed Sheppard +150
Donovan Clingan +250
Stephon Castle +650
Zaccharie Risacher +1000
Matas Buzelis +1100
Nikola Topic +1100
Alexandre Sarr +1200
Robert Dillingham +2900
Tidjane Salaun +2900
Ronald Holand +2900
Dalton Knecht +10000
Bronny James +20000
Zach Edey +20000
Odds Provided by Fanduel - Subject to Change

NBA TEAM TO SELECT BRONNY JAMES IN THE 2024 NBA DRAFT

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Utah Jazz +1500
Philadelphia 76ers +1500
Cleveland Cavaliers +1500
Phoenix Suns +2000
New York Knicks +2000
Golden State Warriors +2000
Oklahoma City Thunder +2000
Miami Heat +2000
Los Angeles Clippers +2500
Chicago Bulls +2500
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Dallas Mavericks +3500
Atlanta Hawks +4000
San Antonio Spurs +4000
Minnesota Timberwolves +4800
Indiana Pacers +5500
Denver Nuggets +7000
Portland Trail Blazers +7000
Toronto Raptors +7000
Memphis Grizzlies +7500
Boston Celtics +7500
Detroit Pistons +7500
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New Orleans Pelicans +10000
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Washington Wizards +10000
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[Geaux_Hawks]

Sarr in a vacuum probably isn't a good top pick. But what those scouts don't take into account is the fit with this Hawks roster. Trae will elevate his off game and OO/JJ will accentuate his already strong def prowess.

He's already galactically above CC in ball handling, passing, switching, just about everything except rebounding.

All of this is true.

But what happens if those guys aren't around?

Jalen sounds like he's in the team's long term plans, but Okongwu has already been on the trade block.

Trae just signed with a new agent and has been making not so subtle threats for weeks now.

If this season were to fall apart and veteran players get moved in trade, Alex Sarr averaging 18 points, 7 rebounds and 3 blocks won't be enough to lead us anywhere anytime soon.

Just for clarity, what happens if we trade down, take Clingan and trade for a vet(#8), while still going thru the same scenario of losing OO and Trae? Mind you, we're not going to get an All-star vet with pick #8.

[Jamaaliver]

Sarr in a vacuum probably isn't a good top pick. But what those scouts don't take into account is the fit with this Hawks roster. Trae will elevate his off game and OO/JJ will accentuate his already strong def prowess.

He's already galactically above CC in ball handling, passing, switching, just about everything except rebounding.

All of this is true.

But what happens if those guys aren't around?

Jalen sounds like he's in the team's long term plans, but Okongwu has already been on the trade block.

Trae just signed with a new agent and has been making not so subtle threats for weeks now.

If this season were to fall apart and veteran players get moved in trade, Alex Sarr averaging 18 points, 7 rebounds and 3 blocks won't be enough to lead us anywhere anytime soon.

Just for clarity, what happens if we trade down, take Clingan and trade for a vet(#8), while still going thru the same scenario of losing OO and Trae? Mind you, we're not going to get an All-star vet with pick #8.

That's a really good question. Ummmm........

My guess, Clingan becomes a solid to above average defensive Center that many of the same teams would still covet in trade.

I think the difference between Clingan and Sarr is that Alex Sarr needs Trae Young to be a productive offensive player.

Donovan Clingan makes Trae Young a more productive offensive player.

[CP War Hawks]

Clingan is athletic wise today's CC and that's nowhere good enough for this team. Guys coming in 280 and bigger will develop lower extremity injuries, no big with that prototype will escape those injuries.

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[Geaux_Hawks]

I think the difference between Clingan and Sarr is that Alex Sarr needs Trae Young to be a productive offensive player.

Donovan Clingan makes Trae Young a more productive offensive player.

This is where I believe you're overstating what Sarr's weak points are, and inflating Clingans impact. Let me preface by saying that Sarr could very well end up being a bust. The reason why though, is not because he doesn't have the talent, traits, and skillset. It's going to be more so about him not putting the work in to fine tune himself.

Sarr doesn't need Trae to be productive. Trae will just know and understand how to use Sarr better than Bryce Cotton or any other ball handler for Perth. Sarr has shown he can create his own offense even in a limited role. There's good form on his shot. He's shown he can be more than what Perth allowed him to be. The problem is, Perth was never interested in centering their team around Sarr. Rightfully so since he was always going to leave for the NBA.

[Jamaaliver]

This is where I believe you're overstating what Sarr's weak points are, and inflating Clingans impact. Let me preface by saying that Sarr could very well end up being a bust. The reason why though, is not because he doesn't have the talent, traits, and skillset. It's going to be more so about him not putting the work in to fine tune himself.

Sarr doesn't need Trae to be productive. Trae will just know and understand how to use Sarr better than Bryce Cotton or any other ball handler for Perth. Sarr has shown he can create his own offense even in a limited role. There's good form on his shot. He's shown he can be more than what Perth allowed him to be. The problem is, Perth was never interested in centering their team around Sarr. Rightfully so since he was always going to leave for the NBA.

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[Jamaaliver]

Clingan is athletic wise today's CC and that's nowhere good enough for this team. Guys coming in 280 and bigger will develop lower extremity injuries, no big with that prototype will escape those injuries.

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[Jamaaliver]

For the record...Clingan isn't my top choice, either.

But it's looking like he's the Hawks' guy. Quin is looking for Gobert 2.0, apparently.

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But one official told the AJC that Clingan, a high-energy, shot-blocking player who turned heads with a strong showing in the Huskies’ run to the national championship, has had the Hawks’ eye even before they won the first pick in the draft despite having only a 3% probability.

And here’s where Hawks GM Landry Fields can make a potentially franchise-altering move. (Albeit one that has a chance of blowing up in the club’s face.)

If he can find a team that really wants Sarr or Risacher, Fields can trade out of the top spot in exchange for an additional draft pick and still nab Clingan. The jeopardy, though, is trading down too low and giving someone else the chance to take Clingan, whose stock appears to be rising.

The ideal partner might be San Antonio, which holds the fourth and eighth picks, although that risks Clingan getting taken third. There is a thought that the Spurs want Risacher to pair with last year’s No. 1 pick, fellow Frenchman Victor Wembanyama.

The Spurs might deem the No. 8 pick too high a cost to move up three spots. But San Antonio could still return the Hawks the 2025 first-round pick that they traded to the Spurs as part of the Murray deal.

[CP War Hawks]

For the record...Clingan isn't my top choice, either.

But it's looking like he's the guy. Quin is looking for Gobert 2.0, apparently.

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But one official told the AJC that Clingan, a high-energy, shot-blocking player who turned heads with a strong showing in the Huskies’ run to the national championship, has had the Hawks’ eye even before they won the first pick in the draft despite having only a 3% probability.

And here’s where Hawks GM Landry Fields can make a potentially franchise-altering move. (Albeit one that has a chance of blowing up in the club’s face.)

If he can find a team that really wants Sarr or Risacher, Fields can trade out of the top spot in exchange for an additional draft pick and still nab Clingan. The jeopardy, though, is trading down too low and giving someone else the chance to take Clingan, whose stock appears to be rising.

There's plenty of bad tape on him and most alarming other than near assured injury issues is his conditioning with NCAA pace. The guy won't be much use if he can't handle NBA pace. Trae young would be totally frustrated with a big that can't keep up.

[Jamaaliver]

There's plenty of bad tape on him and most alarming other than near assured injury issues is his conditioning with NCAA pace. The guy won't be much use if he can't handle NBA pace. Trae young would be totally frustrated with a big that can't keep up.

There is legit injury concern.

I'm very skeptical of the 'plenty of bad tape' sentiment.

He's a hard screen setting, rebounding, rim protecting 7 footer.

Being elite at those skills is underrated.

But, like Sarr, he wouldn't be a top-5 candidate in a more competitive draft class.

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[Jamaaliver]

Hawks’ apparent interest in Donovan Clingan could be boon for franchise

Landry Fields probably doesn’t want to see how many lead decision makers who’ve made No. 1 picks in recent years are still in their jobs, as it doesn’t bode well for him. He might as well go with the player he believes most in. Certainly, there’s the allure of picking first and having the choice of any player in the draft. But trading down — if the Hawks are actually targeting Clingan and can find a trade partner — is a strategy borne of logic.

And, to that point, the No. 1 pick is not a guarantee of anything. In the past 10 drafts, arguably five have proven to be the best player in the class: Karl-Anthony Towns, Zion Williamson, Anthony Edwards, Paolo Banchero and Wembanyama. The other five aren’t close: Andrew Wiggins, Ben Simmons, Markelle Fultz, DeAndre Ayton and Cade Cunningham.

First, if Clingan is the player the Hawks actually want, they need to go ahead and take him, no matter the industry consensus. Second, the fact that there’s uncertainty over who the No. 1 pick should be — mostly, the debate is between Sarr and Risacher — speaks to the reality that there isn’t a prospect in this draft who is a clear-cut star. That lessens the importance of having the first overall pick and ought to increase the Hawks’ willingness to move out of it.

However strongly the Hawks may feel about Clingan — or Sarr or Risacher — there are teams that felt the same way about Wiggins and his fellow No. 1 disappointments. Probably even more strongly, in some cases. That’s why acquiring extra first-round picks — and increasing the possibility of landing a player who hits — makes a lot of sense.

If Fields were interested in trading it, he would not come out and say that, as it would reduce his trade leverage. Further, it wouldn’t be a great look if he said he wanted to trade down and then wasn’t able to make a deal.

Saying the club has yet to decide on a single prospect is the better answer, as it fuels the perception among other clubs that the player they have targeted is also the one that Hawks want.

One other possibility to consider: Fields may not find a partner with an acceptable offer. If that’s the case, he’ll have a career-defining decision — take Clingan at No. 1 or go with the more conventional choices of either Sarr or Risacher.

He would be immediately second-guessed and probably ridiculed for reaching if he went with Clingan. But, if the team’s research has led it to Clingan, he has to be the choice. Fields, whose stewardship of the team has yet to amount to much, will have to live with it either way.

AJC

[HMFFL]

Teammates tend to lose their desire to defend if one of their main teammates aren't playing defense. We continue to try to build around a flawed point guard.