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2019 NBA Draft Prep

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What direction should Hawks go with their lottery picks?

Sekou Doumbouya
19
18%
Coby White
4
4%
Jaxson Hayes
9
9%
Nassir Little
5
5%
Cam Reddish
35
34%
Bol Bol
14
14%
Brandon Clarke
10
10%
Trade the picks
7
7%
 
Total votes: 103

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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#3501 » by gurpilo » Fri May 17, 2019 7:10 pm

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gurpilo wrote:Guys you realize that Fernando is a sophomore and Hayes a freshman, something important when you are comparing two players

Yup. And their freshman nimbers are simyalurr, bigs take longer to develop, so older is sometimes better in that department.

You guessing Hayes’s leap and speed increase as he gets older/heavier?


We are talking about stats, Hayes stats are better than Fernando at freshman season.
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Post#3502 » by Ice Trae » Fri May 17, 2019 7:18 pm

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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#3503 » by Hazer » Fri May 17, 2019 8:15 pm

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Post#3504 » by kerrypack » Fri May 17, 2019 8:20 pm

man, luka saminic crushed hayes and bruno in agility. also, his name is luka.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#3505 » by Hazer » Fri May 17, 2019 8:59 pm

kerrypack wrote:man, luka saminic crushed hayes and bruno in agility. also, his name is luka.

PF vs Cs
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Post#3506 » by CP War Hawks » Fri May 17, 2019 9:06 pm

2nd rounders looking better and better. Admittedly I'm a sucker for 2nd rounders in general also cause the Hawks haven't been able to draft one worth a lick, but it should change with this draft.
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Post#3507 » by Spud2nique » Fri May 17, 2019 10:07 pm

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Hazer wrote:Cam and Bruno! :lift:


I’m down with Cam. As far as Bruno goes...

Haze, we’ll go out have a cup of coffee, maybe do a few sets of shoulders and bi’s in honor of big Bruno....and then maybe put the actually drafting of him to the Hawks to bed.

Look’a here, bwah: Hayes is only 1” taller than Bruno, yet Bruno has the same massive 7’3” wingspan as Hayes, making Bruno’s height-to-wingspan ratio even more impressive than Hayes’s. Bruno also bests Hayes in both standing and jumping vertical. Bruno also has a much better post game, shooting stroke, motor/dawg/swagger, and then there’s this:

“Texas center Jaxson Hayes is projected to go ahead of Maryland's Bruno Fernando in the draft, with many citing his athleticism. At the #NBACombine, Fernando had a 3.27 second three quarter sprint and 3.46 shuttle run. Hayes' sprint was 3.31 seconds and his shuttle was 5.26.
— Lila Bromberg (@lilabbromberg) May 16, 2019”

Hayes is Top 10 due to athleticism, Bruno outperforms him athletically. In leap, AND speed. Spud be SLEEPin :sleep:



Wow. You are sincerely passionate about Bruno. (Tito retreato) :lol: Hey man I hope I’m wrong and your right if he is as good as we are projecting him to be and he ends up a Hawk. I mean we did have an interview with him amongst others there so there is interest.

In my view, I haven’t seen many types like him thrive in that body prototype in the past. I mean is he like an Alonzo Mourning lite? Zo was for sure a weight room monster. We shall see.
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Post#3508 » by gurpilo » Fri May 17, 2019 10:12 pm

CP War Hawks wrote:2nd rounders looking better and better. Admittedly I'm a sucker for 2nd rounders in general also cause the Hawks haven't been able to draft one worth a lick, but it should change with this draft.


Players that could be available at 2nd round:
Carsen Edwards, Chuma Okeke, Daniel Gafford, Charles Bassey, Talen Horton, Luka Samanic, Grant Williams, Kabengele, Thybulle, Kevin Porter, Pj Washington, Ty Jerome, Cam Johnson, Nemias Queta, Okpala.... Some of those are going to fall to 2nd round and we will be on a fantastic position to grab one or 2.

I think we have a good chance to find Jerome or Edwards, Bassey, Gafford or Queta and Samanic or Okeke. We might even have a chance at Thybulle.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#3509 » by Spud2nique » Fri May 17, 2019 10:12 pm

Hazer wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:
Hazer wrote:Cam and Bruno! :lift:



Ps I’m not loving the way ur guy is twitching at the top of the barbell movement there. It’s bad for his back. We just want a smooth motion up and down. No herky jerky.

That’s Bruno flexin’ skinny Hayes over his head, yo :nod:


:falloff: pictured it. Pretty funny.

BTW I’m not in love with Hayes either. I’m actually in the mode to pick up a mid to late first for Kabengele. At what price I’m not sure but that kid has something inside of him that will make his opponents uncomfortable in the pro game. I realize we need a big though so for me it’s still him. Otherwise I’m in the wang game for Cam Culver or any of the top Zags prospects.
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Post#3510 » by _s_t_u_r_t_ » Fri May 17, 2019 10:23 pm

Schlenk has a clear history of looking for players who've shown the ability to pass the rock effectively.

Not many big men in this draft have shown that.

Bruno is one.
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Post#3511 » by Spud2nique » Fri May 17, 2019 10:48 pm

_s_t_u_r_t_ wrote:Schlenk has a clear history of looking for players who've shown the ability to pass the rock effectively.

Not many big men in this draft have shown that.

Bruno is one.


I would project these passing highlights of Bruno to be only average for a big man at the next level. I don’t see anything above average. Maybe one or two of these but otherwise it will be something expected at the next level imo.

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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#3512 » by King Ken » Fri May 17, 2019 11:19 pm

Spud2nique wrote:
_s_t_u_r_t_ wrote:Schlenk has a clear history of looking for players who've shown the ability to pass the rock effectively.

Not many big men in this draft have shown that.

Bruno is one.


I would project these passing highlights of Bruno to be only average for a big man at the next level. I don’t see anything above average. Maybe one or two of these but otherwise it will be something expected at the next level imo.


True but he does have the sauce
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Post#3513 » by _s_t_u_r_t_ » Fri May 17, 2019 11:22 pm

My words are exact, my friend.... Bruno's shown an ability to pass the rock effectively.

And... not many big men in this draft have shown that.

For example, your guy from FSU is among those who haven't.

That Bruno has shown that is not to say he is an exceptional passer now nor that he will be, but that passing is something Schlenk seems to give weight, and Bruno is one of the few who appear might show promise there.
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Post#3514 » by Spud2nique » Fri May 17, 2019 11:49 pm

_s_t_u_r_t_ wrote:My words are exact, my friend.... Bruno's shown an ability to pass the rock effectively.

And... not many big men in this draft have shown that.

For example, your guy from FSU is among those who haven't.

That Bruno has shown that is not to say he is an exceptional passer now nor that he will be, but that passing is something Schlenk seems to give weight, and Bruno is one of the few who appear might show promise there.


I see. Noted. Kabengele has a ton of heart and hustle too which Schlenk also covets.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#3515 » by Hazer » Sat May 18, 2019 12:29 am

Spud2nique wrote:
Hazer wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:
I’m down with Cam. As far as Bruno goes...

Haze, we’ll go out have a cup of coffee, maybe do a few sets of shoulders and bi’s in honor of big Bruno....and then maybe put the actually drafting of him to the Hawks to bed.

Look’a here, bwah: Hayes is only 1” taller than Bruno, yet Bruno has the same massive 7’3” wingspan as Hayes, making Bruno’s height-to-wingspan ratio even more impressive than Hayes’s. Bruno also bests Hayes in both standing and jumping vertical. Bruno also has a much better post game, shooting stroke, motor/dawg/swagger, and then there’s this:

“Texas center Jaxson Hayes is projected to go ahead of Maryland's Bruno Fernando in the draft, with many citing his athleticism. At the #NBACombine, Fernando had a 3.27 second three quarter sprint and 3.46 shuttle run. Hayes' sprint was 3.31 seconds and his shuttle was 5.26.
— Lila Bromberg (@lilabbromberg) May 16, 2019”

Hayes is Top 10 due to athleticism, Bruno outperforms him athletically. In leap, AND speed. Spud be SLEEPin :sleep:



Wow. You are sincerely passionate about Bruno. (Tito retreato) :lol: Hey man I hope I’m wrong and your right if he is as good as we are projecting him to be and he ends up a Hawk. I mean we did have an interview with him amongst others there so there is interest.

In my view, I haven’t seen many types like him thrive in that body prototype in the past. I mean is he like an Alonzo Mourning lite? Zo was for sure a weight room monster. We shall see.

You’re always good at remembering who I go to bat for, so you’ll probably recall I’ve been a fan of Bruno’s for many months. I just think he could be our Ibaka: same exact height, same exact weight, same eacact wingspan, both from The Continent, both good leapers, so forth and so on. And here’s the thing: Bruno shot 31% from 3 in college, far better than Davis and Embiid and KAT. Albeit all of them were very small sample sizes. I just think Bruno is being undervalued and has all the tools to be the best C in this draft. 6’10 isn’t too short to be a C in today’s game, especially with a 7’3 wingspan and skrong hops. Bruno also showed dramatic improvement between his freshman and soph years, showing willingness to be coached and learn plus work ethic. Dude’s damn near 250 and just outjumped and outpaced Hayes. I’m staking my non-existent scouting cred on him being a hit. The last big I did that with turned out NOT to be the next coming of Noah. Thanks Bebe :roll:
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#3516 » by Hazer » Sat May 18, 2019 12:44 am

gurpilo wrote:
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Hazer wrote:Yup. And their freshman nimbers are simyalurr, bigs take longer to develop, so older is sometimes better in that department.

You guessing Hayes’s leap and speed increase as he gets older/heavier?


We are talking about stats, Hayes stats are better than Fernando at freshman season.

Actually they’re pretty equal. And Bruno improved dramatically between 1st and 2nd year, mentioned in “most-improved” conversation.
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Post#3517 » by Spud2nique » Sat May 18, 2019 1:30 am

Hazer wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:
Hazer wrote:Look’a here, bwah: Hayes is only 1” taller than Bruno, yet Bruno has the same massive 7’3” wingspan as Hayes, making Bruno’s height-to-wingspan ratio even more impressive than Hayes’s. Bruno also bests Hayes in both standing and jumping vertical. Bruno also has a much better post game, shooting stroke, motor/dawg/swagger, and then there’s this:

“Texas center Jaxson Hayes is projected to go ahead of Maryland's Bruno Fernando in the draft, with many citing his athleticism. At the #NBACombine, Fernando had a 3.27 second three quarter sprint and 3.46 shuttle run. Hayes' sprint was 3.31 seconds and his shuttle was 5.26.
— Lila Bromberg (@lilabbromberg) May 16, 2019”

Hayes is Top 10 due to athleticism, Bruno outperforms him athletically. In leap, AND speed. Spud be SLEEPin :sleep:



Wow. You are sincerely passionate about Bruno. (Tito retreato) :lol: Hey man I hope I’m wrong and your right if he is as good as we are projecting him to be and he ends up a Hawk. I mean we did have an interview with him amongst others there so there is interest.

In my view, I haven’t seen many types like him thrive in that body prototype in the past. I mean is he like an Alonzo Mourning lite? Zo was for sure a weight room monster. We shall see.

You’re always good at remembering who I go to bat for, so you’ll probably recall I’ve been a fan of Bruno’s for many months. I just think he could be our Ibaka: same exact height, same exact weight, same eacact wingspan, both from The Continent, both good leapers, so forth and so on. And here’s the thing: Bruno shot 31% from 3 in college, far better than Davis and Embiid and KAT. Albeit all of them were very small sample sizes. I just think Bruno is being undervalued and has all the tools to be the best C in this draft. 6’10 isn’t too short to be a C in today’s game, especially with a 7’3 wingspan and skrong hops. Bruno also showed dramatic improvement between his freshman and soph years, showing willingness to be coached and learn plus work ethic. Dude’s damn near 250 and just outjumped and outpaced Hayes. I’m staking my non-existent scouting cred on him being a hit. The last big I did that with turned out NOT to be the next coming of Noah. Thanks Bebe :roll:



Wow. In Haze we thrust! Let’s do it if it fits. Btw .

I don’t see Jamalo I see Sekou, I see u as Bruno, and Kg finally went with Bit the big man...and some Culver. And a few Bol lovers lol.

Me: Cam Clarke Kabengele
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Post#3518 » by Hazer » Sat May 18, 2019 1:41 am

TrATL, The Huert, Camo, J-Bap, Bruno is exciting as all getout to me. Bench of Vet, ‘Dre, Printz, Cal’Omari, and Len is stout too.
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Post#3519 » by Hazer » Sat May 18, 2019 2:48 am

Hazer wrote:TrATL, The Huert, Cam, J-Bap, Bruno is exciting as all getout to me. Bench of Vet, ‘Dre, Printz, Cal’Omari, and Len is stout too.

This is VERY optimistic ceiling of course: but that essentially could be like running Nash, Klay, PG, Amare, and Ibaka out there in the same lineup if Schlenk/CLP are all they’re cracked up to be and they ALL reach their ceiling. Unlikely. But absolute worst-case-scenario floor with that lineup is Bibby, Korver, DMC, Smoove, Adams and that’s still a playoff team at the bottom of all their floors. Just as unlikely.
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Post#3520 » by Spud2nique » Sat May 18, 2019 3:04 am

Hazer wrote:
Hazer wrote:TrATL, The Huert, Cam, J-Bap, Bruno is exciting as all getout to me. Bench of Vet, ‘Dre, Printz, Cal’Omari, and Len is stout too.

This is VERY optimistic ceiling of course: but that essentially could be like running Nash, Klay, PG, Amare, and Ibaka out there in the same lineup if Schlenk/CLP are all they’re cracked up to be and they ALL reach their ceiling. Unlikely. But absolute worst-case-scenario floor with that lineup is Bibby, Korver, DMC, Smoove, Adams and that’s still a playoff team at the bottom of all their floors. Just as unlikely.


Well I’m betting that Trae and Collins have better careers than Bibby and Smoove. :lol: The rest seems reasonable. :thumbsup:

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