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2019 NBA Draft Prep

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What direction should Hawks go with their lottery picks?

Sekou Doumbouya
19
18%
Coby White
4
4%
Jaxson Hayes
9
9%
Nassir Little
5
5%
Cam Reddish
35
34%
Bol Bol
14
14%
Brandon Clarke
10
10%
Trade the picks
7
7%
 
Total votes: 103

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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#3521 » by Spud2nique » Sat May 18, 2019 3:05 am

Hazer wrote:
Hazer wrote:TrATL, The Huert, Cam, J-Bap, Bruno is exciting as all getout to me. Bench of Vet, ‘Dre, Printz, Cal’Omari, and Len is stout too.

This is VERY optimistic ceiling of course: but that essentially could be like running Nash, Klay, PG, Amare, and Ibaka out there in the same lineup if Schlenk/CLP are all they’re cracked up to be and they ALL reach their ceiling. Unlikely. But absolute worst-case-scenario floor with that lineup is Bibby, Korver, DMC, Smoove, Adams and that’s still a playoff team at the bottom of all their floors. Just as unlikely.



Also...I think I’d rather he become Adams than Ibaka. I like the worse case scenario there. Lol.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#3523 » by Hazer » Sat May 18, 2019 3:22 am

Spud2nique wrote:
Hazer wrote:
Hazer wrote:TrATL, The Huert, Cam, J-Bap, Bruno is exciting as all getout to me. Bench of Vet, ‘Dre, Printz, Cal’Omari, and Len is stout too.

This is VERY optimistic ceiling of course: but that essentially could be like running Nash, Klay, PG, Amare, and Ibaka out there in the same lineup if Schlenk/CLP are all they’re cracked up to be and they ALL reach their ceiling. Unlikely. But absolute worst-case-scenario floor with that lineup is Bibby, Korver, DMC, Smoove, Adams and that’s still a playoff team at the bottom of all their floors. Just as unlikely.



Also...I think I’d rather he become Adams than Ibaka. I like the worse case scenario there. Lol.

Agreed on a couple of fronts: TrATL will far exceed peak Bibby and J-Bap will far exceed peak Smoove. Then again, Ibaka was pretty stout those 2 years he lead the league in blocks. Adams was a nice C for Thunda, but I truly believe Bruno will be elite.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#3524 » by Hazer » Sat May 18, 2019 3:36 am

NBAdraft.net:

“NBA Comparison: Steven Adams/Serge Ibaka
Strengths: A high level run jump athlete at the center position ... Explosive finisher and alley-oop target, with great bounce, especially off of two feet ... Very solid touch and shooting ability for a big ... Shows excellent form and touch shooting the ball (a career 75% ft shooter) ... Has become a load on the block ... Has excellent footwork in the post with solid ability to establish position and seal his man for jump hooks and drop steps ... Has a developing turn around hook shot over his left shoulder ... Possesses excellent hands, showing an ability to catch entry passes and make plays with the ball without having to focus any attention to it ... Has learned solid skill on the block, with the ability to seal his man, create a wide base for teammates to find him with passes, and can make plays quickly after establishing advantageous position ... Has developed a bag of tricks in the paint with spin moves and up-and-unders. Does a great job of not predetermining his moves and really gives defenders trouble with his foot work and ball fakes ... His hands appear to be just as good as his feet ... Creates space offensively by bumping his defender off balance ... Finishes well in the paint, whether it be with a dunk or baby hooks ... Ambidextrous, showing the ability to finish well with both his left and dominant right hand ... Very good touch. And an above average FT shooter for a big ... Enjoys contact. Displays great toughness and a willingness to give up his body for rebounds ... Very strong body and should only continue to add to his muscular frame ... While his skill set is more that of a traditional big with a focus on his post game, his size, mobility and touch give him potential as a modern day big, and his ability to move his feet and defend guards on pick and rolls gives him added intrigue ... Has really improved as an offensive player, showing confidence facing the basket from the perimeter and can make plays attacking the basket off the dribble ... He's able to take opponents off the bounce with a quick first step and can get to the rim without drawing charges or turning the ball over. A sign of his coach-ability and dedication to improving his game ... Finishes well on the move ... Also has the ability to one dribble pull up from 10-12 feet if the defense sags off him ... Young man with a lot of maturity and composure. Has a calm, confident demeanor and never seems to lose his cool, or get rattled ... Has a real presence about him, doesn’t shy away from competition or the limelight and shows a steady demeanor and confidence to handle adversity and tough situations ... His feel for the game has shown steady improvement, and he apparently made an excellent decision to return to Maryland for his sophomore year, despite being a likely first rounder as a FR ... Excellent 7-plus foot wingspan gives him good length at 6’10”

Hawks could sure do worse than that at C
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#3525 » by Spud2nique » Sat May 18, 2019 3:39 am

Hazer wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:
Hazer wrote:This is VERY optimistic ceiling of course: but that essentially could be like running Nash, Klay, PG, Amare, and Ibaka out there in the same lineup if Schlenk/CLP are all they’re cracked up to be and they ALL reach their ceiling. Unlikely. But absolute worst-case-scenario floor with that lineup is Bibby, Korver, DMC, Smoove, Adams and that’s still a playoff team at the bottom of all their floors. Just as unlikely.



Also...I think I’d rather he become Adams than Ibaka. I like the worse case scenario there. Lol.

Agreed on a couple of fronts: TrATL will far exceed peak Bibby and J-Bap will far exceed peak Smoove. Then again, Ibaka was pretty stout those 2 years he lead the league in blocks. Adams was a nice C for Thunda, but I truly believe Bruno will be elite.



Yes I enjoyed the early year OKC Serge before the big man shift to the arc. A system btw that was initially reintroduced in the modern era by the SPURS and not the scrubs. (Sorry had to get that in there).
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#3526 » by Hazer » Sat May 18, 2019 3:45 am

Spud2nique wrote:
Hazer wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:

Also...I think I’d rather he become Adams than Ibaka. I like the worse case scenario there. Lol.

Agreed on a couple of fronts: TrATL will far exceed peak Bibby and J-Bap will far exceed peak Smoove. Then again, Ibaka was pretty stout those 2 years he lead the league in blocks. Adams was a nice C for Thunda, but I truly believe Bruno will be elite.



Yes I enjoyed the early year OKC Serge before the big man shift to the arc. A system btw that was initially reintroduced in the modern era by the SPURS and not the scrubs. (Sorry had to get that in there).

Let me reiterate, in VERY limited sample size, Bruno is already a MUCH better college 3pt shooter than Davis, Embiid, and KAT ever were in comparable college play. And they are all now elite NBA 3pt shooting Cs.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#3527 » by Spud2nique » Sat May 18, 2019 3:53 am

Hazer wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:
Hazer wrote:Agreed on a couple of fronts: TrATL will far exceed peak Bibby and J-Bap will far exceed peak Smoove. Then again, Ibaka was pretty stout those 2 years he lead the league in blocks. Adams was a nice C for Thunda, but I truly believe Bruno will be elite.



Yes I enjoyed the early year OKC Serge before the big man shift to the arc. A system btw that was initially reintroduced in the modern era by the SPURS and not the scrubs. (Sorry had to get that in there).

Let me reiterate, in VERY limited sample size, Bruno is already a MUCH better college 3pt shooter than Davis, Embiid, and KAT ever were in comparable college play. And they are all now elite NBA 3pt shooting Cs.



You know Haze,

If you woulda have told me 25 years ago that I’d be home on a Friday night scouting big men for the Hawks woulda told you your crazy!


Now let’s check out some of those Bruno videos shall we? :lol:

2:42 my inner Krame

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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#3528 » by Hazer » Sat May 18, 2019 3:58 am

Spud2nique wrote:
Hazer wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:

Yes I enjoyed the early year OKC Serge before the big man shift to the arc. A system btw that was initially reintroduced in the modern era by the SPURS and not the scrubs. (Sorry had to get that in there).

Let me reiterate, in VERY limited sample size, Bruno is already a MUCH better college 3pt shooter than Davis, Embiid, and KAT ever were in comparable college play. And they are all now elite NBA 3pt shooting Cs.



You know Haze,

If you woulda have told me 25 years ago that I’d be home on a Friday night scouting big men for the Hawks woulda told you your crazy!


Now let’s check out some of those Bruno videos shall we? :lol:

2:42 my inner Krame


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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#3529 » by Hazer » Sat May 18, 2019 4:12 am

Hazer wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:
Hazer wrote:Agreed on a couple of fronts: TrATL will far exceed peak Bibby and J-Bap will far exceed peak Smoove. Then again, Ibaka was pretty stout those 2 years he lead the league in blocks. Adams was a nice C for Thunda, but I truly believe Bruno will be elite.



Yes I enjoyed the early year OKC Serge before the big man shift to the arc. A system btw that was initially reintroduced in the modern era by the SPURS and not the scrubs. (Sorry had to get that in there).

Let me reiterate, in VERY limited sample size, Bruno is already a MUCH better college 3pt shooter than Davis, Embiid, and KAT ever were in comparable college play. And they are all now elite NBA 3pt shooting Cs.

And at nearly the same height and egggzackly same wingspan as Hayes, yet with a year more eggspeerunce and higher leap and quicker feet at almost 30lbs thicker, and better 3pt shot, Hayes is for some reason ranked higher. Bruno will be the much better C, bookmark it :nod:
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#3530 » by Spud2nique » Sat May 18, 2019 4:35 am

Hazer wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:
Hazer wrote:Let me reiterate, in VERY limited sample size, Bruno is already a MUCH better college 3pt shooter than Davis, Embiid, and KAT ever were in comparable college play. And they are all now elite NBA 3pt shooting Cs.



You know Haze,

If you woulda have told me 25 years ago that I’d be home on a Friday night scouting big men for the Hawks woulda told you your crazy!


Now let’s check out some of those Bruno videos shall we? :lol:

2:42 my inner Krame


Had this t-shirt on my “to buy” list for a while now:
https://famousinreal.life/products/kramerica-industries-men-unisex-t-shirt



Love it never seen that one.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#3531 » by Hazer » Sat May 18, 2019 4:36 am

Spud2nique wrote:
_s_t_u_r_t_ wrote:Schlenk has a clear history of looking for players who've shown the ability to pass the rock effectively.

Not many big men in this draft have shown that.

Bruno is one.


I would project these passing highlights of Bruno to be only average for a big man at the next level. I don’t see anything above average. Maybe one or two of these but otherwise it will be something expected at the next level imo.


Dedmon and Len aren’t passing at this level...
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#3532 » by Spud2nique » Sat May 18, 2019 4:38 am

Hazer wrote:
Hazer wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:

Yes I enjoyed the early year OKC Serge before the big man shift to the arc. A system btw that was initially reintroduced in the modern era by the SPURS and not the scrubs. (Sorry had to get that in there).

Let me reiterate, in VERY limited sample size, Bruno is already a MUCH better college 3pt shooter than Davis, Embiid, and KAT ever were in comparable college play. And they are all now elite NBA 3pt shooting Cs.

And at nearly the same height and egggzackly same wingspan as Hayes, yet with a year more eggspeerunce and higher leap and quicker feet at almost 30lbs thicker, and better 3pt shot, Hayes is for some reason ranked higher. Bruno will be the much better C, bookmark it :nod:



Noted and marked. Btw I forgot who were you rooting for all of last year. I remember you were high on Jontay Porter pre injury. But not sure if you were team Doncic Bags JJJ Trae or Michael Porter also pre injury?
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#3533 » by Hazer » Sat May 18, 2019 5:00 am

Spud2nique wrote:
Hazer wrote:
Hazer wrote:Let me reiterate, in VERY limited sample size, Bruno is already a MUCH better college 3pt shooter than Davis, Embiid, and KAT ever were in comparable college play. And they are all now elite NBA 3pt shooting Cs.

And at nearly the same height and egggzackly same wingspan as Hayes, yet with a year more eggspeerunce and higher leap and quicker feet at almost 30lbs thicker, and better 3pt shot, Hayes is for some reason ranked higher. Bruno will be the much better C, bookmark it :nod:



Noted and marked. Btw I forgot who were you rooting for all of last year. I remember you were high on Jontay Porter pre injury. But not sure if you were team Doncic Bags JJJ Trae or Michael Porter also pre injury?

ALways been steadfast in support of Johntay, such a great talent perfect for Hawks. But now flyer/2nd due to glassiness. I was all for Ayton/Luka/Trae last year, not JJJ or Bags. Although would love to have JJJ now. Never been a huge fan of Bags. You had a great memory of fondness for Isaac, and he looks to be panning out. Would MUCH rather have him than Printz at SF, who I’m not a fan of. Loved him at first, due to potential and his brilliant “rebound” interview. Just an underperformer in my book, Isaac has much more potential. As does Cam.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#3534 » by Spud2nique » Sat May 18, 2019 5:40 am

Hazer wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:
Hazer wrote:And at nearly the same height and egggzackly same wingspan as Hayes, yet with a year more eggspeerunce and higher leap and quicker feet at almost 30lbs thicker, and better 3pt shot, Hayes is for some reason ranked higher. Bruno will be the much better C, bookmark it :nod:



Noted and marked. Btw I forgot who were you rooting for all of last year. I remember you were high on Jontay Porter pre injury. But not sure if you were team Doncic Bags JJJ Trae or Michael Porter also pre injury?

ALways been steadfast in support of Johntay, such a great talent perfect for Hawks. But now flyer/2nd due to glassiness. I was all for Ayton/Luka/Trae last year, not JJJ or Bags. Although would love to have JJJ now. Never been a huge fan of Bags. You had a great memory of fondness for Isaac, and he looks to be panning out. Would MUCH rather have him than Printz at SF, who I’m not a fan of. Loved him at first, due to potential and his brilliant “rebound” interview. Just an underperformer in my book, Isaac has much more potential. As does Cam.



Haze envisions this happening a few times next year. :)

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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#3535 » by Hazer » Sat May 18, 2019 6:18 am

Spud2nique wrote:
Hazer wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:

Noted and marked. Btw I forgot who were you rooting for all of last year. I remember you were high on Jontay Porter pre injury. But not sure if you were team Doncic Bags JJJ Trae or Michael Porter also pre injury?

ALways been steadfast in support of Johntay, such a great talent perfect for Hawks. But now flyer/2nd due to glassiness. I was all for Ayton/Luka/Trae last year, not JJJ or Bags. Although would love to have JJJ now. Never been a huge fan of Bags. You had a great memory of fondness for Isaac, and he looks to be panning out. Would MUCH rather have him than Printz at SF, who I’m not a fan of. Loved him at first, due to potential and his brilliant “rebound” interview. Just an underperformer in my book, Isaac has much more potential. As does Cam.



Haze envisions this happening a few times next year. :)


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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#3536 » by DrCoach » Sat May 18, 2019 1:29 pm

The Hawks want to be GS -East

Pg- Trey-Curry
Sg- Huerter-Klay
Sf- Prince- Barnes
Pf- Clarke- Draymond
C- Collins

6th man- Reddish— Iggy
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#3537 » by kerrypack » Sat May 18, 2019 1:58 pm

DrCoach wrote:The Hawks want to be GS -East

Pg- Trey-Curry
Sg- Huerter-Klay
Sf- Prince- Barnes
Pf- Clarke- Draymond
C- Collins

6th man- Reddish— Iggy
Keeping building bench

I like what you are doing
clarke and cam? could be. clarke is an incredible athlete and it translates into his play. some have concerns about his weight?
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#3538 » by Spud2nique » Sat May 18, 2019 2:03 pm

DrCoach wrote:The Hawks want to be GS -East

Pg- Trey-Curry
Sg- Huerter-Klay
Sf- Prince- Barnes
Pf- Clarke- Draymond
C- Collins

6th man- Reddish— Iggy
Keeping building bench

I like what you are doing


Thank you. We are going to be the Atlanta Hawks of the east. Not the Spurs nor the Warr..scrubs.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#3540 » by Jamaaliver » Sat May 18, 2019 2:12 pm

I gotta say, I believe Daniel Gafford at #35 is a MUCH better value than Bruno Fernando in the top 10.

Both look like contributors/starters. Neither look like stars.

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