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Depends on who they sign. My money is on them missing the playoffs again next year though, West is a bloodbathEazyRoc wrote:Funny thing is...KP isn’t a difference maker either. I’m sure they’ll have great chemistry, but KP couldn’t move the needle for the Knicks. I doubt, even if healthy, he alone helps them win many more games. They were actually on the right track prior to blowing up their team. Cuban screwed the pooch trying to get cute.
EazyRoc wrote:Funny thing is...KP isn’t a difference maker either. I’m sure they’ll have great chemistry, but KP couldn’t move the needle for the Knicks. I doubt, even if healthy, he alone helps them win many more games. They were actually on the right track prior to blowing up their team. Cuban screwed the pooch trying to get cute.
observer1995 wrote:I don't know about y'all, but I'd rather the Mavs win a few more games. I'm not going to root for their losing until they get to at least 32 wins, as otherwise it's going to be a very uncomfortable call on that pick. Might be anyway with #atlsports.
King Ken wrote:They aren't tanking. They just suck
The RingerThe Mavericks Are Creeping Closer and Closer to Keeping Their Draft Pick
With a loss to Washington, Dallas is now tied for the seventh-worst record in the league. The team’s draft pick is top-five protected, and the flattened lottery odds give the franchise a good chance to add another piece to complement Luka Doncic and Kristaps Porzingis
The Mavericks are trying. Yes, they’re now 27-37 and 13th in the Western Conference, and yes, they have fallen short in nine of their last 11 games, a brutal February-March stretch that was somehow worse than the Lakers’. Before the nine-point loss to the Wizards, there was a 39-point loss to Nets and a 30-point loss to the Grizzlies. That was the worst two-game stretch in franchise history. But Dallas isn’t intentionally tanking—they’re starting Dorian Finney-Smith out of necessity. They aren’t tankers; they’re losers. Yet despite that, the franchise is in an enviable position...the organization’s recent losing has given the team a great chance at ending up with a top-five draft pick.
Dallas gave up its 2019 first-round pick to Atlanta last summer on draft night as part of the trade that secured Doncic. The pick is top-five protected, meaning that if it lands anywhere from pick 6 to pick 30, it’s Atlanta’s. But if the lottery balls fall in Dallas’s favor and the pick lands in the top five, the Mavs get to keep it and hand over their 2020 first-round pick to Atlanta instead.
Dallas is now tied for the seventh-worst record, giving the team a 29.4 percent chance of landing a top-four pick (teams can only move up into the top four). They’re two games back from the sixth-worst record, which currently belongs to Memphis. Atlanta is in the fifth lottery spot and, at 22-44, is virtually unreachable for the 27-37 Mavs. But finishing sixth is a possibility for Dallas and would bump the odds of keeping its pick to 37.2 percent. This is a huge boost compared to the old system.
The flattened odds are part of the reason Cuban and the Mavs have a chance at keeping their pick, after all.
saloonyk8 wrote:I think as Hawks fans we should accept Dallas will keep their pick this year and that will actually push us down another slot.
That win to the Bulls when Trae was ejected was such a huge and stupid loss.
saloonyk8 wrote:That win to the Bulls when Trae was ejected was such a huge and stupid loss.
Jamaaliver wrote:Come one, man. That singular victory change nothing in the draft race. Especially with the Suns, Bulls and Cavs playing roughly .500 basketball the last couple of weeks.
We were firmly in the 5th slot going into the game. We're firmly in the 5th spot now.
And if Dallas wants to be dumb enough to lose 20 straight games in a desperate attempt to keep that pick, so be it.
The AthleticHawks have chance to improve Zion odds, but they’re getting worse odds on Mavericks’ pick
Because the Hawks have exceeded expectations, there’s now a disastrous chance Atlanta can fall as low as ninth in the lottery come May 14, the night the Hawks and the other 13 teams excluded from the playoffs will learn where they’ll draft in June.
Currently, the Hawks have the fifth-best odds in the lottery — a 10.5 percent chance to win and likely choose Duke’s Zion Williamson. Having the fifth-best odds puts Atlanta in a precarious spot. With the new, flattened lottery odds, the team with the fifth-best odds only has a 2.2 percent chance of actually drafting fifth. There’s a 42.1 percent chance Atlanta moves into the top four and a 55.6 percent chance the team falls somewhere between six and nine.
If a team outside of those teams jumps into the top four and the Hawks do not, they will drop to sixth; two teams leaping them means dropping to seventh, three teams means dropping to eighth, and four teams means dropping to ninth.
Here’s a look at the odds for every draft position:
Atlanta has the second-hardest strength of schedule until the end of the season behind Oklahoma City.
The absolute worst possible outcome for the Hawks this draft is falling to ninth, the lowest they could drop with the fifth-best odds, and the Mavericks winning the lottery.
Dallas has lost its past two games by a combined 69 points and seems to be content with losing as many games as possible through the end of the season. Out of the current lottery teams, the Mavericks have the worst record in their past 10 games, going 2-8 in this stretch. Since the trade deadline, Dallas is the worst team in the league by net rating. The Mavericks have a minus-13.9 net rating during this stretch.
It wouldn’t necessarily be devastating if the Dallas pick doesn’t convey this year — all it does is delay adding another first-round talent until 2020.
Jamaaliver wrote:saloonyk8 wrote:That win to the Bulls when Trae was ejected was such a huge and stupid loss.
Come one, man. That singular victory change nothing in the draft race. Especially with the Suns, Bulls and Cavs playing roughly .500 basketball the last couple of weeks.
We were firmly in the 5th slot going into the game. We're firmly in the 5th spot now.
And if Dallas wants to be dumb enough to lose 20 straight games in a desperate attempt to keep that pick, so be it.
saloonyk8 wrote:I want the fourth spot. I know we're not getting top 3. Not getting Mavs pick this year gonna hurt. I see the odds, but I know what will happen. Part of me believes we're getting Zion and the number 7 pick.
The other part of me watched the falcons super bowl and still hasn't watched a game since.
kg01 wrote:Mavs'll be about the same next year as they are this year. Porzingis won't be effective from the start. Will probably miss several games due to "load maint.", etc. I won't assume he'll get hurt again but it's not a stretch to suggest that he may. History tells us he will.
Seriously doubt they add major pieces in free agency. Despite having lots of advantages, nice weather, no state tax, etc., they have struggled in free agency just as we have. Even more so, when you consider they've had an all-time great on their roster and have relatively recently won a title.
And I think it's too early to comment on whether or not Luka will be a free agent draw. I tend to lean 'probably not'. The notion that he's 'made guys expendable' rather than 'made them better' is something to consider. Similarly, I'm not sure Harden is a draw either.
It's not automatic that the KP/Donc combo will set the world on fire. Looks great on paper and nba2k tho.
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