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kg01 wrote:Spud2nique wrote:kg01 wrote:
Because he happens to agree with me, bro. Let's be honest, that's all you need.
Collin Sexton.
Track record (hurled out the window)...
You sonofa .... I can't believe you would .... *sigh* ....
(That was col' blooded, @spud. Real col'.)
oh come on that was friendly banter. I’ll bring the Pinot to the next bbq.
Spud2nique wrote:kg01 wrote:Spud2nique wrote:
Collin Sexton.
Track record (hurled out the window)...
You sonofa .... I can't believe you would .... *sigh* ....
(That was col' blooded, @spud. Real col'.)
kg01 wrote:Spud2nique wrote:kg01 wrote:
You sonofa .... I can't believe you would .... *sigh* ....
(That was col' blooded, @spud. Real col'.)
If you're bringin' the Pinot, who's brangin' the malt liquor? Ain't no party like a cul-de-sac party 'cause a cul-de-sac party got Schlitz.
King Ken wrote:EazyRoc wrote:For the record guys:
Hayes just finished his 2nd season of organized basketball. Of course he looks raw.
5th year. He played 9th-12th but was 9th grade on the bench as a fr as well as 10th. JV for 11th and star varsity for 12th.
Peachtree Hoops2019 NBA Draft scouting report: Mfiondu Kabengele
Mfiondu Kabengele was an underrated part of Leonard Hamilton’s group at Florida State this season. The sophomore only averaged roughly 13 points and 6 rebounds to go along with 1.5 blocks across ~22 minutes per game. Combine that production with the fact that Kabengele was actually slightly more effective in ACC play, and you begin to see the intrigue NBA scouts have with the big man. His stock is only rising of late, with his 7’3 wingspan being among the longest of those measured at the 2019 NBA Draft combine last week.
Kabengele is largely a defensive prospect, who projects to be able to guard multiple positions with his quickness on the perimeter, as well as protect the rim and rebound with his length. While the big man was mostly deployed as a forward on a Florida State roster that did not lack size, it will be interesting to see if Kabengele can hold his own when he needs to slide over to the center position. If he can’t play center, his career ~37% clip from three-point range should be enough to warrant playing a healthy chunk of minutes at forward given his versatility.
The biggest concern currently with Kabengele being able to anchor the center position for large stretches at the next level is that his height was measured at 6’8.75 without shoes, which is obviously small relative to the average NBA center. His length should help him, but most NBA big men are pretty long in their own right, so it remains to be seen how much he will actually help an NBA team when lined up against opposing centers.
Kabengele actually feels like a great fit in Atlanta, despite being undersized for the center position, much like incumbent power forward John Collins. Whether general manager Travis Schlenk would select the Florida State product with one of his bevy of second round picks likely hinges on whether he’s able to snag DeAndre Hunter or Brandon Clarke with one (or both) of the first round picks, as Kabengele essentially represents a lower ceiling option for either of those more highly regarded prospects
The combination of shooting, length and defensive versatility should propel Kabengele to a role in an NBA rotation sooner than later, with defensive minded play seemingly becoming a lost art in today’s three-point fiend game. A reasonably optimistic projection for Kabengele may be similar to what Adebayo did for Miami in 2018-2019, while his home run ceiling could resemble that of what Pascal Siakam was able to accomplish in his third season.
kg01 wrote:Spud2nique wrote:I’m happiest with Cam and Culver but Hunter would be a delight as well. Not sold on Hayes. Confused about Bruno.
Gimme Culver or Cam and Bitazde (mainly 'cause I know how to spell it).
I have no idea why folks are so high on Hayes. He looks like the same dime-a-dozen 6'10+, no-offense, pogo stick that gets over-drafted every year based off "Ooooh he catches lobs and that one time I saw him make a college 3 in practice and that other time I saw him string 2 dribbles together! 2 dribbles!!!!!"
There's probably 6 other Hayes in the GLeague right now. May as well take the Claxton kid out of *shudders* UGA in the 2nd round. Both are probably gonna spend the next year+ in the GL anyway.
Spud2nique wrote:kg01 wrote:Spud2nique wrote:
If you're bringin' the Pinot, who's brangin' the malt liquor? Ain't no party like a cul-de-sac party 'cause a cul-de-sac party got Schlitz.
Hawksfanatic..oh wait that’s peppermint schnapps..I mean rumplemintz.
King Ken wrote:kg01 wrote:Spud2nique wrote:I’m happiest with Cam and Culver but Hunter would be a delight as well. Not sold on Hayes. Confused about Bruno.
Gimme Culver or Cam and Bitazde (mainly 'cause I know how to spell it).
I have no idea why folks are so high on Hayes. He looks like the same dime-a-dozen 6'10+, no-offense, pogo stick that gets over-drafted every year based off "Ooooh he catches lobs and that one time I saw him make a college 3 in practice and that other time I saw him string 2 dribbles together! 2 dribbles!!!!!"
There's probably 6 other Hayes in the GLeague right now. May as well take the Claxton kid out of *shudders* UGA in the 2nd round. Both are probably gonna spend the next year+ in the GL anyway.
There is no Hayes in the G League. He is raw but he isn't bad. He is better right now than Allen with the Nets was as a prospect.
kg01 wrote:King Ken wrote:kg01 wrote:
Gimme Culver or Cam and Bitazde (mainly 'cause I know how to spell it).
I have no idea why folks are so high on Hayes. He looks like the same dime-a-dozen 6'10+, no-offense, pogo stick that gets over-drafted every year based off "Ooooh he catches lobs and that one time I saw him make a college 3 in practice and that other time I saw him string 2 dribbles together! 2 dribbles!!!!!"
There's probably 6 other Hayes in the GLeague right now. May as well take the Claxton kid out of *shudders* UGA in the 2nd round. Both are probably gonna spend the next year+ in the GL anyway.
There is no Hayes in the G League. He is raw but he isn't bad. He is better right now than Allen with the Nets was as a prospect.
I hear you but "as a prospect" is a dangerous phrase this time of year. I didn't mean that Hayes is "bad". Just that he's probably much farther from his potential than we can monetarily stomach (if that makes sense).
The thing I dread about this tank process is getting to the point of having to (over)pay guys before they've ever shown whether or not they can contribute to winning. As such, I'm really low on guys like Hayes. I see the tools but, to me, that don't mean nothin' if you need 2 years to teach him how to do the basics at an NBA level then another 3-4 years to teach him how to put that all together to actually help you win games.
If you do the math, that puts you past the point of having to match RFA offers and you don't even know what you've got.
Some will say, "Well that's true of every prospect." I disagree.
kg01 wrote:King Ken wrote:kg01 wrote:
Gimme Culver or Cam and Bitazde (mainly 'cause I know how to spell it).
I have no idea why folks are so high on Hayes. He looks like the same dime-a-dozen 6'10+, no-offense, pogo stick that gets over-drafted every year based off "Ooooh he catches lobs and that one time I saw him make a college 3 in practice and that other time I saw him string 2 dribbles together! 2 dribbles!!!!!"
There's probably 6 other Hayes in the GLeague right now. May as well take the Claxton kid out of *shudders* UGA in the 2nd round. Both are probably gonna spend the next year+ in the GL anyway.
There is no Hayes in the G League. He is raw but he isn't bad. He is better right now than Allen with the Nets was as a prospect.
I hear you but "as a prospect" is a dangerous phrase this time of year. I didn't mean that Hayes is "bad". Just that he's probably much farther from his potential than we can monetarily stomach (if that makes sense).
The thing I dread about this tank process is getting to the point of having to (over)pay guys before they've ever shown whether or not they can contribute to winning. As such, I'm really low on guys like Hayes. I see the tools but, to me, that don't mean nothin' if you need 2 years to teach him how to do the basics at an NBA level then another 3-4 years to teach him how to put that all together to actually help you win games.
If you do the math, that puts you past the point of having to match RFA offers and you don't even know what you've got.
Some will say, "Well that's true of every prospect." I disagree.
Jamaaliver wrote:Two inches taller...he'd be a lottery pick.Peachtree Hoops2019 NBA Draft scouting report: Mfiondu Kabengele
Mfiondu Kabengele was an underrated part of Leonard Hamilton’s group at Florida State this season. The sophomore only averaged roughly 13 points and 6 rebounds to go along with 1.5 blocks across ~22 minutes per game. Combine that production with the fact that Kabengele was actually slightly more effective in ACC play, and you begin to see the intrigue NBA scouts have with the big man. His stock is only rising of late, with his 7’3 wingspan being among the longest of those measured at the 2019 NBA Draft combine last week.
Kabengele is largely a defensive prospect, who projects to be able to guard multiple positions with his quickness on the perimeter, as well as protect the rim and rebound with his length. While the big man was mostly deployed as a forward on a Florida State roster that did not lack size, it will be interesting to see if Kabengele can hold his own when he needs to slide over to the center position. If he can’t play center, his career ~37% clip from three-point range should be enough to warrant playing a healthy chunk of minutes at forward given his versatility.
The biggest concern currently with Kabengele being able to anchor the center position for large stretches at the next level is that his height was measured at 6’8.75 without shoes, which is obviously small relative to the average NBA center. His length should help him, but most NBA big men are pretty long in their own right, so it remains to be seen how much he will actually help an NBA team when lined up against opposing centers.
Kabengele actually feels like a great fit in Atlanta, despite being undersized for the center position, much like incumbent power forward John Collins. Whether general manager Travis Schlenk would select the Florida State product with one of his bevy of second round picks likely hinges on whether he’s able to snag DeAndre Hunter or Brandon Clarke with one (or both) of the first round picks, as Kabengele essentially represents a lower ceiling option for either of those more highly regarded prospects
The combination of shooting, length and defensive versatility should propel Kabengele to a role in an NBA rotation sooner than later, with defensive minded play seemingly becoming a lost art in today’s three-point fiend game. A reasonably optimistic projection for Kabengele may be similar to what Adebayo did for Miami in 2018-2019, while his home run ceiling could resemble that of what Pascal Siakam was able to accomplish in his third season.
King Ken wrote:I like him a lot as a prospect but I will be shock with the intel I got that we are going center with 8 or 10
kg01 wrote:King Ken wrote:I like him a lot as a prospect but I will be shock with the intel I got that we are going center with 8 or 10
Honestly, I expected us to go with a wang at 8 and 10. I've just grown to like the Bitazde guy.
Ur in love with Bit. I got Kab and Haz currently on a mandate with Bruno.... ouch 
NBC Sports -- Washington2019 NBA Draft prospect profile: Bol Bol
Bol Bol
School: Oregon
Position: Center
Age: 19
Height: 7-3 | Weight: 208 | Wingspan: 7-7
2018/19 stats: 21.0 ppg, 9.6 rpg, 1.0 apg, 0.8 spg, 2.7 bpg, 56.1 FG% (8.2/14.7), 52.0 3PT% (1.4/2.8), 75.7 FT%
Player comparison: Kristaps Porzingis, Thon Maker
Projections: NBC Sports Washington 12th, NBADraft.net 18th, Bleacher Report 9th, Sports Illustrated 17th, Ringer 12th
5 things to know:
*Bol has a chance to be perfectly suited for this era of NBA unicorns. He is over 7-feet tall, yet is highly skilled for his size. He can run the floor, make plays off the dribble and shoot from outside. He is also an adept shot-blocker with the instincts to maximize his height and length.
He only played in nine games with Oregon due to a stress fracture in his left foot. A stress fracture is always ominous for a basketball player, but especially for a big man. If it weren't for the injury, Bol would probably be in the top-five range. Whichever team takes him will be going high-risk, high-reward, not unlike the Nuggets with Michael Porter Jr. last June.
Perhaps the most interesting stat when it comes to Bol is his three-point shooting. Though it was a small sample size, he shot 52 percent from long range on nearly three attempts per game. For a guy his size, having any sort of three-point shot is noteworthy and to shoot at that clip is exceptional, no matter the position.
Team Fit: Bol would be a great fit because he plays a position of need and would offer star potential. He also would add rim protection, something Atlanta sorely lack.
NBC Sports -- Washington2019 NBA Draft prospect profile: Jaxson Hayes
Jaxson Hayes
School: Texas
Position: Center
Age: 19
Height: 7-0 | Weight: 219 | Wingspan: 7-4
2018/19 stats: 10.0 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 0.3 apg, 0.6 spg, 2.2 bpg, 72.8 FG% (3.8/5.3), 00.0 3PT% (0.0/0.0), 74.0 FT%
Player comparison: Jarrett Allen, John Henson
Projections: NBC Sports Washington 10th, NBADraft.net 9th, Bleacher Report 10th, Sports Illustrated 9th, Ringer 10th
Things to know:
Hayes is considered the best center prospect in this year's class. He is athletic, plays with energy and measured in at the combine at about 7-feet in shoes with a 7-foot-4 wingspan. He can run the floor and play above the rim.
*The skill that stands out most for Hayes is rim protection. He averaged 2.2 blocks in only 23.3 minutes per game. That extrapolates to 5.7 blocks over 100 possessions. He has long arms and appears to have good instincts tracking the ball in the lane. He is following in the footsteps of fellow Texas shot-blockers before him like Myles Turner and Jarrett Allen. The latter may be the best player comparison for Hayes in today's NBA.
*Hayes is not considered a very good rebounder. Hayes offers nothing in the way of an outside shot. He didn't attempt a single three-pointer in college and didn't do much on offense outside of dunks and putbacks. In order to justify being taken with a high draft pick, he will either need to develop a post game, an outside shot or be extremely good on defense. His lack of an all-round game will certainly give some teams pause in evaluating him.
Team Fit: Hayes would likely be the Hawks' best shot-blocker from Day 1. But whether he can help them in other ways is a question at this point.
Hayes would represent a bit of a project for Atlanta and may not have All-Star potential because of his offensive limitations. Still, he remains one of their best fitting options in the first round. Long-term, he could transform the defense and form a strong pick-and-roll partner for Trae Young.
Miami HeraldWhat to know about draft prospect Sekou Doumbouya
Forward Sekou Doumbouya, an 18-year-old who is originally from Conakry, Guinea, and wasn’t at last week’s NBA Combine, is projected by most to be the first international player taken as a late lottery pick in the June 20 draft.
Doumbouya, a 6-9 forward, is averaging 7.8 points on 48.3 percent shooting from the field and 34.3 percent shooting on threes to go with 3.3 rebounds in 19 minutes per game.
While he’s known as a prospect who comes with an offensive game that’s still very much a work in progress, Doumbouya finished Saturdays’ win against Levallois with 34 points on 13-of-18 shooting from the field and 5-of-7 shooting on threes to go with nine rebounds.
“Doumbouya rebounded from a slow start and has been very productive in Pro A France since returning from a hand injury,” ESPN wrote. “He has outstanding physical tools for a modern-day NBA forward, particularly defensively, where he shows significant potential, and he has a projectable skill level offensively.”
“Doumbouya has been much better over the last month and a half,” The Athletic wrote. “In his last eight games, Doumbouya has seen his points per minute increase, his three-point shooting volume and efficiency has increased, and generally he just looks much more comfortable with the speed of the game.
This is one of those classic high-risk, high-reward prospects. The upside is obviously there, but there’s also uncertainty about the type of player Doumbouya will turn into. He’s still growing into his body and his offensive game is still raw. Doumbouya is a streaky shooter and has some trouble creating offense off the dribble. But his length and athleticism have scouts fawning over his potential as a defender. Doumbouya is quick enough to switch on to guards and has the length to be an above-average rim protector one day. The question will be, what will Doumbouya be on the offense? If he can ever develop a consistent shot and improve his handle, he can be a very good NBA player.
Jamaaliver wrote:Miami HeraldWhat to know about draft prospect Sekou Doumbouya
Forward Sekou Doumbouya, an 18-year-old who is originally from Conakry, Guinea, and wasn’t at last week’s NBA Combine, is projected by most to be the first international player taken as a late lottery pick in the June 20 draft.
Doumbouya, a 6-9 forward, is averaging 7.8 points on 48.3 percent shooting from the field and 34.3 percent shooting on threes to go with 3.3 rebounds in 19 minutes per game.
While he’s known as a prospect who comes with an offensive game that’s still very much a work in progress, Doumbouya finished Saturdays’ win against Levallois with 34 points on 13-of-18 shooting from the field and 5-of-7 shooting on threes to go with nine rebounds.
“Doumbouya rebounded from a slow start and has been very productive in Pro A France since returning from a hand injury,” ESPN wrote. “He has outstanding physical tools for a modern-day NBA forward, particularly defensively, where he shows significant potential, and he has a projectable skill level offensively.”
“Doumbouya has been much better over the last month and a half,” The Athletic wrote. “In his last eight games, Doumbouya has seen his points per minute increase, his three-point shooting volume and efficiency has increased, and generally he just looks much more comfortable with the speed of the game.
This is one of those classic high-risk, high-reward prospects. The upside is obviously there, but there’s also uncertainty about the type of player Doumbouya will turn into. He’s still growing into his body and his offensive game is still raw. Doumbouya is a streaky shooter and has some trouble creating offense off the dribble. But his length and athleticism have scouts fawning over his potential as a defender. Doumbouya is quick enough to switch on to guards and has the length to be an above-average rim protector one day. The question will be, what will Doumbouya be on the offense? If he can ever develop a consistent shot and improve his handle, he can be a very good NBA player.
_s_t_u_r_t_ wrote:Jamaaliver wrote:Miami HeraldWhat to know about draft prospect Sekou Doumbouya
Forward Sekou Doumbouya, an 18-year-old who is originally from Conakry, Guinea, and wasn’t at last week’s NBA Combine, is projected by most to be the first international player taken as a late lottery pick in the June 20 draft.
Doumbouya, a 6-9 forward, is averaging 7.8 points on 48.3 percent shooting from the field and 34.3 percent shooting on threes to go with 3.3 rebounds in 19 minutes per game.
While he’s known as a prospect who comes with an offensive game that’s still very much a work in progress, Doumbouya finished Saturdays’ win against Levallois with 34 points on 13-of-18 shooting from the field and 5-of-7 shooting on threes to go with nine rebounds.
“Doumbouya rebounded from a slow start and has been very productive in Pro A France since returning from a hand injury,” ESPN wrote. “He has outstanding physical tools for a modern-day NBA forward, particularly defensively, where he shows significant potential, and he has a projectable skill level offensively.”
“Doumbouya has been much better over the last month and a half,” The Athletic wrote. “In his last eight games, Doumbouya has seen his points per minute increase, his three-point shooting volume and efficiency has increased, and generally he just looks much more comfortable with the speed of the game.
This is one of those classic high-risk, high-reward prospects. The upside is obviously there, but there’s also uncertainty about the type of player Doumbouya will turn into. He’s still growing into his body and his offensive game is still raw. Doumbouya is a streaky shooter and has some trouble creating offense off the dribble. But his length and athleticism have scouts fawning over his potential as a defender. Doumbouya is quick enough to switch on to guards and has the length to be an above-average rim protector one day. The question will be, what will Doumbouya be on the offense? If he can ever develop a consistent shot and improve his handle, he can be a very good NBA player.
His shot has been more consistent than it's been inconsistent, when you look at the whole picture of the two seasons he's had in Pro A.
And his handles aren't bad, they just aren't anything to write home about yet.
I don't see us getting him, but if Reddish is gone @ 8 and Colonel Schlenk asks me what to do, I won't hesitate to say, "Go get BOU-Yah!"
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