Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3

[Jamaaliver]

Every Non-Bubble Team's Best Trade Package for Giannis Antetokounmpo

If the Bucks get to a point where they're ready to listen to offers for their MVP forward (a time that may never come), these are the best trade packages the eight teams that have already begun they're offseason can present.

Atlanta Hawks


Best Trade Offer: PF John Collins, F Cam Reddish, F De'Andre Hunter, C Dewayne Dedmon for PF Giannis Antetokounmpo

Few teams (if any) possess more young talent than the Hawks.

As good as Antetokounmpo is, Atlanta isn't including Trae Young in a trade for anyone about to hit free agency, even an MVP in his mid-20s. Keeping Young off the table doesn't mean the Hawks couldn't still make a grand offer, however.

Collins is a logical starting point, a 22-year-old power forward that would slide in immediately as a starter for Milwaukee. He's a far better outside shooter than Antetokounmpo (40.1 percent on 3.6 attempts per game) and is averaging career highs in points (21.6), rebounds (10.1) and blocks (1.6) while making 58.3 percent of his field-goal attempts. While his defense is far, far below Antetokounmpo's level, Collins will be a restricted free agent in 2021, giving the Bucks the chance to match any deal he receives and keep him in Milwaukee long term.

Reddish should intrigue the Bucks as well. The 2019 No. 10 pick that was coming on strong before the NBA went on hiatus in March. While the 20-year-old rookie's season stats don't jump off the page (10.5 points on 38.4 percent shooting), Reddish is an elite athlete with great size on the wing. Over his last 21 games, Reddish was giving the Hawks 14.6 points on 41.7 percent shooting from three, an area that was viewed as a negative coming out of college.

Hunter, the 2019 No. 4 pick, doesn't have the ceiling of Reddish but is a polished multi-positional threat on both sides of the ball. He's started all but one game for the Hawks as a rookie and could thrive using Khris Middleton as a mentor.

For the Hawks, this trade is probably worth the risk of Antetokounmpo leaving, given how good a core of Young, Antetokounmpo, Kevin Huerter and Clint Capela could be, especially with cap space to use this summer.

Bleacher Report

[tbhawksfan1]

I'm a rebuild, organic growth guy. Hate the idea of tradeing a bunch of our youth for anyone. Sign him as a FA, if he wants to come and keep the young guys

[Spud2nique]

I'm a rebuild, organic growth guy. Hate the idea of tradeing a bunch of our youth for anyone. Sign him as a FA, if he wants to come and keep the young guys

I like the cut of ur jib my man!

BTW are you SB75 on the other sports forum.

[Radioblacktive1]

I definitely don’t like the trade either. We would have nothing left after a trade like and then Giannis would have even less of a reason to re-sign.

That said, I’m willing to take whatever ass whooping that comes with this but if Schlenk is feeling froggy, I think we could do a lot worse than Zachariah Malachi Jamison Lavine. Yeah I know, “worst defensive backcourt blah blah blah” but the BUCKETS. We’d be playing on Rookie difficulty offensively each trip down. And hey who knows, maybe all the buckets will make defense easier since we could get into our half court sets as often as possible. I say if he wants to leave and we can send em a package that won’t kill us, why not?

Now THAT said, I still prefer Jamalliver’s Caris Levert idea but I think the idea of Lavine in Atlanta gets too much of a side eye.

[jayu70]

1st Round Picks for Sale?
https://213hoops.com/nba-teams-might-sell-1st-round-picks-per-windhorst/

Brian Windhorst of ESPN had a quote from an executive that NBA teams might sell 1st round draft picks in this year’s draft.

This is actually fairly big news. While second round picks are sold fairly frequently (especially past number 45 or so), the last first round pick that was sold straight up was back in 2013 (the pick became Rudy Gobert). While it’s highly unlikely that any picks above 20 are solid, it seems like there’s a pretty good chance that a pick or two in the 20s could be up for grabs. Even in what is considered a pretty poor draft, there will certainly be good NBA players drafted in the late 1st round.

If the Hawks a looking to buy a later pick, using their capspace that way, who should we target in the 18-23 range?

[myrak433]

1st Round Picks for Sale?
https://213hoops.com/nba-teams-might-sell-1st-round-picks-per-windhorst/

Brian Windhorst of ESPN had a quote from an executive that NBA teams might sell 1st round draft picks in this year’s draft.

This is actually fairly big news. While second round picks are sold fairly frequently (especially past number 45 or so), the last first round pick that was sold straight up was back in 2013 (the pick became Rudy Gobert). While it’s highly unlikely that any picks above 20 are solid, it seems like there’s a pretty good chance that a pick or two in the 20s could be up for grabs. Even in what is considered a pretty poor draft, there will certainly be good NBA players drafted in the late 1st round.

If the Hawks a looking to buy a later pick, using their capspace that way, who should we target in the 18-23 range?

Unless the Hawks package their own first round pick for a win now type player (Lavine LOL) I would not be interested in acquiring more draft picks. But if they do I like Tre Jones as a backup PG or Jalen Smith to develop Incase Collins leaves.

[jayu70]

1st Round Picks for Sale?
https://213hoops.com/nba-teams-might-sell-1st-round-picks-per-windhorst/

Brian Windhorst of ESPN had a quote from an executive that NBA teams might sell 1st round draft picks in this year’s draft.

This is actually fairly big news. While second round picks are sold fairly frequently (especially past number 45 or so), the last first round pick that was sold straight up was back in 2013 (the pick became Rudy Gobert). While it’s highly unlikely that any picks above 20 are solid, it seems like there’s a pretty good chance that a pick or two in the 20s could be up for grabs. Even in what is considered a pretty poor draft, there will certainly be good NBA players drafted in the late 1st round.

If the Hawks a looking to buy a later pick, using their capspace that way, who should we target in the 18-23 range?

Unless the Hawks package their own first round pick for a win now type player (Lavine LOL) I would not be interested in acquiring more draft picks. But if they do I like Tre Jones as a backup PG or Jalen Smith to develop Incase Collins leaves.

Not interested in getting into another Lavine discussion.

[myrak433]

1st Round Picks for Sale?
https://213hoops.com/nba-teams-might-sell-1st-round-picks-per-windhorst/


If the Hawks a looking to buy a later pick, using their capspace that way, who should we target in the 18-23 range?

Unless the Hawks package their own first round pick for a win now type player (Lavine LOL) I would not be interested in acquiring more draft picks. But if they do I like Tre Jones as a backup PG or Jalen Smith to develop Incase Collins leaves.

Not interested in getting into another Lavine discussion.

Fair enough. In none lottery two I like are

Tre Jones as a backup PG or Jalen Smith to develop Incase Collins leaves.

[jayu70]

Unless the Hawks package their own first round pick for a win now type player (Lavine LOL) I would not be interested in acquiring more draft picks. But if they do I like Tre Jones as a backup PG or Jalen Smith to develop Incase Collins leaves.

Not interested in getting into another Lavine discussion.

Fair enough. In none lottery two I like are

Tre Jones as a backup PG or Jalen Smith to develop Incase Collins leaves.

Thank you. After we traded the BKN pick I have only focused on the top 10 lottery picks.

[tbhawksfan1]

I'm a rebuild, organic growth guy. Hate the idea of tradeing a bunch of our youth for anyone. Sign him as a FA, if he wants to come and keep the young guys

I like the cut of ur jib my man!

BTW are you SB75 on the other sports forum.

No, always tb

[King Ken]

Firesale Deals due to COVID:

1. PHI 1st (2020 OKC), Horford, and Richardson for Dedmon and Bruno
- Benefits for Philly, saves them 85 million dollars.
- Gets them out of the LT for 2020-21
- Gets them a good backup center in Dedmon and a potentially decent center in Bruno
- Saves them money as the 1st could push their salary.

- For Atlanta -
- Gets them a top 30-40 wing to add to the lack of depth
- Good starting-caliber center in Horford to pair with Capela.
- Gets Atlanta a decent 1st rounder which they could move up to get their choice of PG.

2. Doug McDermott for our 2nd rounder/cap space
- IND Is close to the LT and might hit it if the cap goes down

For Atlanta -
-Gets us another quality wing with a good salary.
- A sharpshooter, which we lack off the bench.
- Helps our depth.

3. Kevon Looney to Atlanta for a 2nd rounder.

See Doug but adds defense, versatility and quality depth instead of a sharp.

[Spud2nique]

Firesale Deals due to COVID:

1. PHI 1st (2020 OKC), Horford, and Richardson for Dedmon and Bruno
- Benefits for Philly, saves them 85 million dollars.
- Gets them out of the LT for 2020-21
- Gets them a good backup center in Dedmon and a potentially decent center in Bruno
- Saves them money as the 1st could push their salary.

- For Atlanta -
- Gets them a top 30-40 wing to add to the lack of depth
- Good starting-caliber center in Horford to pair with Capela.
- Gets Atlanta a decent 1st rounder which they could move up to get their choice of PG.

2. Doug McDermott for our 2nd rounder/cap space
- IND Is close to the LT and might hit it if the cap goes down

For Atlanta -
-Gets us another quality wing with a good salary.
- A sharpshooter, which we lack off the bench.
- Helps our depth.

3. Kevon Looney to Atlanta for a 2nd rounder.

See Doug but adds defense, versatility and quality depth instead of a sharp.

Hmm not the king ken format of writing we are used to but that’s neither here nor there.

No way on 1 &3 and I actually wanted Dougie Mac. I proposed it a few months back and you thought it was a good one. I don’t wanna dig so cite them sources.

[King Ken]

Firesale Deals due to COVID:

1. PHI 1st (2020 OKC), Horford, and Richardson for Dedmon and Bruno
- Benefits for Philly, saves them 85 million dollars.
- Gets them out of the LT for 2020-21
- Gets them a good backup center in Dedmon and a potentially decent center in Bruno
- Saves them money as the 1st could push their salary.

- For Atlanta -
- Gets them a top 30-40 wing to add to the lack of depth
- Good starting-caliber center in Horford to pair with Capela.
- Gets Atlanta a decent 1st rounder which they could move up to get their choice of PG.

2. Doug McDermott for our 2nd rounder/cap space
- IND Is close to the LT and might hit it if the cap goes down

For Atlanta -
-Gets us another quality wing with a good salary.
- A sharpshooter, which we lack off the bench.
- Helps our depth.

3. Kevon Looney to Atlanta for a 2nd rounder.

See Doug but adds defense, versatility and quality depth instead of a sharp.

Hmm not the king ken format of writing we are used to but that’s neither here nor there.

No way on 1 &3 and I actually wanted Dougie Mac. I proposed it a few months back and you thought it was a good one. I don’t wanna dig so cite them sources.

I think all of these are good ideas for the Hawks.

[Spud2nique]

Len/Bembry for Jaylen Brown ?

Pass.
Len is currently the starting Center (pending FAcy).
Hawks just drafted 2 wings in the draft plus Huerter last year. I think we are good on the wings. The plan is to develop them.
Brown is a RFA next season.

[Nathan2331]

Firesale Deals due to COVID:

1. PHI 1st (2020 OKC), Horford, and Richardson for Dedmon and Bruno
- Benefits for Philly, saves them 85 million dollars.
- Gets them out of the LT for 2020-21
- Gets them a good backup center in Dedmon and a potentially decent center in Bruno
- Saves them money as the 1st could push their salary.

- For Atlanta -
- Gets them a top 30-40 wing to add to the lack of depth
- Good starting-caliber center in Horford to pair with Capela.
- Gets Atlanta a decent 1st rounder which they could move up to get their choice of PG.

2. Doug McDermott for our 2nd rounder/cap space
- IND Is close to the LT and might hit it if the cap goes down

For Atlanta -
-Gets us another quality wing with a good salary.
- A sharpshooter, which we lack off the bench.
- Helps our depth.

3. Kevon Looney to Atlanta for a 2nd rounder.

See Doug but adds defense, versatility and quality depth instead of a sharp.

Hmm not the king ken format of writing we are used to but that’s neither here nor there.

No way on 1 &3 and I actually wanted Dougie Mac. I proposed it a few months back and you thought it was a good one. I don’t wanna dig so cite them sources.

I think all of these are good ideas for the Hawks.

That first trade would be alright if Schlenk doesn't think we can land a big FA next off-season.

[Spud2nique]

Hawks get: Wendell Carter + 44th pick

Bulls get: Hawks 2020 1st (outside of 1-3) + Bruno Fernando

If the Hawks get a top 3 pick I’m not doing this deal. If it’s 4-8 I would.

Jambrad jumps for joy!

[Jamaaliver]

Hawks get: Wendell Carter + 44th pick

Bulls get: Hawks 2020 1st (outside of 1-3) + Bruno Fernando

Jambrad jumps for joy!

[Radioblacktive1]

A fan of WC but nah on this. I’d rather take a swing in the draft if the best we can get for the pick is Wendell.

[Spud2nique]

A fan of WC but nah on this. I’d rather take a swing in the draft if the best we can get for the pick is Wendell.

Yea, I’m torn. I just think another young developmental guy at this stage is delaying our timeframe to win, specially for Trae and Collins and guys ready to start putting together playoff runs. Wendell seems like a non flashy type of dude who gets the job done because he’s super solid at what he can do and he does them very well. He and Trae alone would be a problem. Throw in Collins, Cam and Hunter and now we are seeing the bigger picture.

[Spud2nique]

A fan of WC but nah on this. I’d rather take a swing in the draft if the best we can get for the pick is Wendell.

I’m trying to project a 4-8 pick in the draft and how well they would stack up. You can immediately count out Edwards, Ball and Wiseman in seems from the mocks. The caliber of players you have are guys like,

Haliburton
Hayes
Okongwu
Toppin

I like Wendell better than Toppin but equal to Okongwu just because I love that kid.

Tough choice between Wendell and Haliburton to me as well. Both similar in that they are fundamentally sound.

Ya, it’s close for me but thought I’d throw the idea out there.