2019 NBA Draft Prep

Post #3901 » by **Jamaaliver** » Tue May 28, 2019 5:23 pm

Analyzing NBA Draft Prospects With Overinflated Stocks

De’Andre Hunter, Virginia | Sophomore

Given that this is not a particularly forward-heavy lottery class, it’s easy to understand why Hunter has been placed in the discussion near the top of the draft. He’s big, strong, defensively versatile, shot the ball well from three this season and had a breakout night leading Virginia to an NCAA title. I’m not convinced his skill set portends the type of upside that would warrant taking him over a younger, more skilled player at most junctures of the top 10. While I certainly don’t view Hunter as a bad prospect, the point I’m trying to make is that the expectations here might be inflated. I think of him more akin to forwards like Mikal Bridges or Miles BridgeS.

This draft is not rife with players like Hunter, and for a team like the Hawks with two lottery picks and a potentially elite shot creator on the roster like Trae Young, he’s an obvious fit

Brandon Clarke, Gonzaga | Junior

Clarke comes into this draft with clearly defined strengths and also with obvious shortcomings, to the point where how you value him is entirely based on whether you see his skill set translating. There’s not much of a grey area. You either think Clarke can shoot jump shots, or you don’t; you believe his athleticism will overcome his lack of height and length, or you don’t.

Romeo Langford, Indiana | Freshman

Langford’s got all the tools to become a passable NBA player, and enough natural ability to be better than that. He’s pegged some of his struggles this season on injuries, make of that what you will. But ultimately, taking him in the late lottery, or even the first round, is a pick that feels more like it’s based on his pedigree than it is on realistic projection. it’s hard to justify drafting him in the lottery based on how alarmingly behind schedule his skill set appears to be.

Ultimately, the big question is whether after all this, you’re still taking Langford as someone who you hope can lead your team in scoring down the line. That’s not to say he won’t or can’t improve, but simply that he more or less is who he is at his core. He’s not transforming into a point forward, or into Khris Middleton.

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Post #3902 » by **Jamaaliver** » Tue May 28, 2019 5:37 pm

2019 NBA Draft: Long Shots Who Could Sneak into the Lottery

Tyler Herro (Kentucky, SG, Freshman)

Tyler Herro will use workouts to convince teams they shouldn't look deeply into his relatively pedestrian 35.5 percent three-point clip at Kentucky. His 93.5 percent free-throw clip is the more telling stat. The eye test detects a great shooter with picturesque mechanics and balance rising off spot-ups, screens, transition and pull-ups.

The Atlanta Hawks, Minnesota Timberwolves, Charlotte Hornets and Miami Heat each pick late in the lottery and ranked in the bottom half of the league in three-point percentage.

Goga Bitadze (Georgia, C, 1999)

After producing big numbers in the Adriatic and Serbian Leagues and winning the Euroleague Rising Star award, Goga Bitadze built a clear first-round case. He's now in the U.S. preparing for the draft, and this is where he can jump further up certain boards.

His mobility, bounce and improved shooting should pop. That latter skill could be the one to help Bitadze leapfrog others in the Nos. 10-14 range. He finished the year hitting a combined 30 of 76 three-pointers. His form and fluidity are convincing, especially for a 19-year-old.

Bitadze, who averaged 19.8 points on 7-of-16 shooting from three through five Serbian KLS games this month, could become an option for the Atlanta Hawks...

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Spud2nique · Post #3903 » by **Spud2nique** » Tue May 28, 2019 5:47 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
2019 NBA Draft: Long Shots Who Could Sneak into the Lottery

Tyler Herro (Kentucky, SG, Freshman)

Tyler Herro will use workouts to convince teams they shouldn't look deeply into his relatively pedestrian 35.5 percent three-point clip at Kentucky. His 93.5 percent free-throw clip is the more telling stat. The eye test detects a great shooter with picturesque mechanics and balance rising off spot-ups, screens, transition and pull-ups.

The Atlanta Hawks, Minnesota Timberwolves, Charlotte Hornets and Miami Heat each pick late in the lottery and ranked in the bottom half of the league in three-point percentage.

Goga Bitadze (Georgia, C, 1999)

After producing big numbers in the Adriatic and Serbian Leagues and winning the Euroleague Rising Star award, Goga Bitadze built a clear first-round case. He's now in the U.S. preparing for the draft, and this is where he can jump further up certain boards.

His mobility, bounce and improved shooting should pop. That latter skill could be the one to help Bitadze leapfrog others in the Nos. 10-14 range. He finished the year hitting a combined 30 of 76 three-pointers. His form and fluidity are convincing, especially for a 19-year-old.

Bitadze, who averaged 19.8 points on 7-of-16 shooting from three through five Serbian KLS games this month, could become an option for the Atlanta Hawks...

Perhaps the jersey number is in play here but Herro looks exactly like Danny Green on offense. I’m guessing the defense has a ways to go but I love shooters, specially around Trae.

Post #3904 » by **Jamaaliver** » Tue May 28, 2019 6:21 pm

Why Nassir Little thinks he can be the next Kawhi Leonard, and the NBA can be a better fit

Nothing in his only season at North Carolina went exactly as planned. The Tar Heels relegated Little to a bench role, and his production was inconsistent. In a deep frontcourt, it was hard for Roy Williams to carve out a specific role for his five-star freshman."

It all made for a relatively underwhelming season for the forward from Orlando Christian Prep. Little finished his freshman season averaging 9.8 points and 4.6 rebounds pre games, while shooting 48.0 percent from the floor and 26.9 percent from three-point range. He decided to declare for the NBA Draft anyway and as a no-brainer to be invited to the Draft Combine.

Those who watched Little in high school still have faith in his potential as a worthy lottery pick. Just a little more than a year ago, Little was the MVP of the McDonald’s All-American Game and an obvious player for mock drafts to project in the top five. Little still believes he’s that player and someone like the Miami Heat, which picks No. 13 next month, could get a steal.

“I feel like I can come in as a second version of Kawhi Leonard, be our defensive guy that is able to hit open shots early on and later on add pieces to the game,” Little said. “First version of Nassir, but I see some similarities.”

At No. 13, Little might be Miami’s best chance at landing a future star. The NBA is currently — and almost always — driven by dominant perimeter scorers, typically wings who can handle and shoot the ball. Ideally, they would also be excellent defenders, capable of guarding the other team’s best perimeter scorer when necessary. Picking Little, and hoping the offensive deficiencies he displayed in the last year will be fixed in the NBA, would be a big swing.

“I think I shoot better than I showcased at UNC. I can handle the ball better,” Little said. “I think there is more spacing, more attacking the basket, little bit more freedom offensively. It’s not so structured as it is in college.”

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King Ken · Post #3909 » by **King Ken** » Tue May 28, 2019 8:36 pm

Of the people I've talked to, we are leaning in the direction of versatility and talent as well as the great PDS model

jayu70 · Post #3910 » by **jayu70** » Tue May 28, 2019 8:41 pm

King Ken wrote:Of the people I've talked to, we are leaning in the direction of versatility and talent as well as the great PDS model

Who are the 5 which fit this critera?

Spud2nique · Post #3911 » by **Spud2nique** » Tue May 28, 2019 8:45 pm

King Ken wrote:Of the people I've talked to, we are leaning in the direction of versatility and talent as well as the great PDS model

I’ve talked to kg..and a few others. :lol:

EazyRoc · Post #3912 » by **EazyRoc** » Tue May 28, 2019 9:21 pm

Bruno Fernando and Rui Hachimura. Brilliant draft.

pacehawk · Post #3913 » by **pacehawk** » Tue May 28, 2019 9:40 pm

My picks for today (They keep changing on a Daily Basis!)!

#8 Rui Hachimura
#10 Bruno Fernando

Taking Fall with one of their three 2nd Round Picks (I think Fall is definitely worth the gamble with one of their 2nd Round Picks!)!

Like I said these personal picks will probably change BEFORE tomorrow but I do like what I have read and seen of Hachimura and Fernando (One tough Dude!!)!!

King Ken · Post #3914 » by **King Ken** » Tue May 28, 2019 10:10 pm

jayu70 wrote:
King Ken wrote:Of the people I've talked to, we are leaning in the direction of versatility and talent as well as the great PDS model

Who are the 5 which fit this critera?

Reddish
Culver
Little (Hawks really believe in him)
Hunter
Goga

They are a lot of guys like in the 20's as well.

I got a lot of new information as well.

Hawks are talking trade with Cleveland/NY.

NY wants to move back to #5 for Culver. Cleveland wants #3. If Culver is at #5, Cleveland wants to do the same deal we did last year for Doncic/Young. Issue is of course, they owe us their pick in 2020. They want it back. Willing to give the 2nd rounders owe and eat some salary for it. Framework is based on Bazemore/Plumlee for J.R. Smith and John Henson and two future 2nds which would have went to Atlanta if they didn't convert the pick. From what I am hearing. J.R. Smith could be shopped for a 1st and an bad expiring regardless so it could be 4 teams. Atlanta has been very active in trying to move up for more 1st rounders. Haven't showed much interest in moving back. Also haven't showed much interest in trading Prince at this time from others around the league.

DeAndre Hunter is getting **** on right now in this stage. He will need to have a great pro day because teams are eating his ass alive. Been hearing he could fall to 10-12 range.

In the same boat, Culver is getting super praise right now. No chance he falls passed Cleveland at #5.

Reddish stock seem to hit a rock right now. Teams aren't too happy with his pro day and that he stopped it early for injuries. The question about his passion has been stated by numerous teams, he needs to get his **** together. His range is 7-12 right now. His potential is through the roof and a lot of teams are high on what he could be if he had the passion they believe. This is not my take, I think he's tremendous and I got several Duke staffers saying he does have the passion and love for the game but it just doesn't come in the biggest of spots. This was said in HS about him as well.

Little on the other hand stock is locked into the top 10 right now. It's hard to see the Hawks passing on him and they got a hard on for him. He translates well and his potential is sky high but his floor is really low and I have my doubts but everyone I've talked to said, even the Bulls are high on him. His hand size is legit and the saying on him isn't Leonard, it's Scottie Pippen. Teams think he will be an all star in time. His interviews were off the charts. Teams are in love in his intelligence and he was really able to explain what he did at UNC really well. He just passes all of the tests. Mental ones that is. Definitely not the production ones.

Hawks haven't really showed any signs of willingness to move back or up from 8/10. They are confident they will get what they want at #8 and #10.

Rui, Goga, and Sekou are big movers. They are lottery locks right now. Teams are all in for them.

Langford seems to be a target of the Pistons.

Bol seems like he could go in the lottery as well as the 2nd round. His stock is not good right now.

Teams are falling in love with Tyler Herro.

Teams are also falling in love with Klutch clients, Darius Bazley and Talen Horton-Tucker. They been in love with THT but they are more open with it of late.

Darius Garland stock seems to be from #4-7. The Lakers seem to be zoning in him. They also like Hunter as well.

White seems to be a lock for #6.

No one knows what the Bulls will do at #7. People say #4 is a wildcard but it's not. It's likely Garland. It's #7. I've asked what is the Bulls looking for and everyone says, Zo Ball or trade back. I am hearing Lakers have zero interest in trading Zo outside of a Beal or AD trade and no teams are dying to move up in this lottery. Seems like the Bulls will just BPA this one. I've been hearing they are high on Sekou. They have called us about #10 and taking salary which the Hawks weren't interested in at that time.

Hawks have been one of the most active teams with the Bulls during this period. I think the Hawks will get a couple more 1sts. That's what they seem to be aiming for.

gurpilo · Post #3915 » by **gurpilo** » Tue May 28, 2019 10:16 pm

I stay the same

8- Cam or Hunter
10- Bol (if healthy) Doumbouya or Hayes

2nd rd picks
Gafford, Samanic, Bazley, Bassey, Talent Horton, Chuma Okeke, Ty Jerome, Louis King, Grant Williams, Kevin Porter Jr... I think any of those can be available.

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jayu70 · Post #3918 » by **jayu70** » Tue May 28, 2019 11:15 pm

King Ken wrote:
jayu70 wrote:
King Ken wrote:Of the people I've talked to, we are leaning in the direction of versatility and talent as well as the great PDS model

Who are the 5 which fit this critera?

Reddish
Culver
Little (Hawks really believe in him)
Hunter
Goga

They are a lot of guys like in the 20's as well.

I got a lot of new information as well.

Hawks are talking trade with Cleveland/NY.

NY wants to move back to #5 for Culver. Cleveland wants #3. If Culver is at #5, Cleveland wants to do the same deal we did last year for Doncic/Young. Issue is of course, they owe us their pick in 2020. They want it back. Willing to give the 2nd rounders owe and eat some salary for it. Framework is based on Bazemore/Plumlee for J.R. Smith and John Henson and two future 2nds which would have went to Atlanta if they didn't convert the pick. From what I am hearing. J.R. Smith could be shopped for a 1st and an bad expiring regardless so it could be 4 teams. Atlanta has been very active in trying to move up for more 1st rounders. Haven't showed much interest in moving back. Also haven't showed much interest in trading Prince at this time from others around the league.

DeAndre Hunter is getting **** on right now in this stage. He will need to have a great pro day because teams are eating his ass alive. Been hearing he could fall to 10-12 range.

In the same boat, Culver is getting super praise right now. No chance he falls passed Cleveland at #5.

Reddish stock seem to hit a rock right now. Teams aren't too happy with his pro day and that he stopped it early for injuries. The question about his passion has been stated by numerous teams, he needs to get his **** together. His range is 7-12 right now. His potential is through the roof and a lot of teams are high on what he could be if he had the passion they believe. This is not my take, I think he's tremendous and I got several Duke staffers saying he does have the passion and love for the game but it just doesn't come in the biggest of spots. This was said in HS about him as well.

Little on the other hand stock is locked into the top 10 right now. It's hard to see the Hawks passing on him and they got a hard on for him. He translates well and his potential is sky high but his floor is really low and I have my doubts but everyone I've talked to said, even the Bulls are high on him. His hand size is legit and the saying on him isn't Leonard, it's Scottie Pippen. Teams think he will be an all star in time. His interviews were off the charts. Teams are in love in his intelligence and he was really able to explain what he did at UNC really well. He just passes all of the tests. Mental ones that is. Definitely not the production ones.

Hawks haven't really showed any signs of willingness to move back or up from 8/10. They are confident they will get what they want at #8 and #10.

Rui, Goga, and Sekou are big movers. They are lottery locks right now. Teams are all in for them.

Langford seems to be a target of the Pistons.

Bol seems like he could go in the lottery as well as the 2nd round. His stock is not good right now.

Teams are falling in love with Tyler Herro.

Teams are also falling in love with Klutch clients, Darius Bazley and Talen Horton-Tucker. They been in love with THT but they are more open with it of late.

Darius Garland stock seems to be from #4-7. The Lakers seem to be zoning in him. They also like Hunter as well.

White seems to be a lock for #6.

No one knows what the Bulls will do at #7. People say #4 is a wildcard but it's not. It's likely Garland. It's #7. I've asked what is the Bulls looking for and everyone says, Zo Ball or trade back. I am hearing Lakers have zero interest in trading Zo outside of a Beal or AD trade and no teams are dying to move up in this lottery. Seems like the Bulls will just BPA this one. I've been hearing they are high on Sekou. They have called us about #10 and taking salary which the Hawks weren't interested in at that time.

Hawks have been one of the most active teams with the Bulls during this period. I think the Hawks will get a couple more 1sts. That's what they seem to be aiming for.

Thanks for the juicy info.
Interesting that the Hawks are trying to get more 1sts- that's contrary to what Schlenk has said all year, that he's looking for future 1st, not more 2019 1st.
I guess seeing guys go through workouts, peaked his interest.

kg01 · Post #3919 » by **kg01** » Tue May 28, 2019 11:26 pm

jayu70 wrote:
King Ken wrote:
jayu70 wrote:Who are the 5 which fit this critera?

Reddish
Culver
Little (Hawks really believe in him)
Hunter
Goga

They are a lot of guys like in the 20's as well.

I got a lot of new information as well.

Hawks are talking trade with Cleveland/NY.

NY wants to move back to #5 for Culver. Cleveland wants #3. If Culver is at #5, Cleveland wants to do the same deal we did last year for Doncic/Young. Issue is of course, they owe us their pick in 2020. They want it back. Willing to give the 2nd rounders owe and eat some salary for it. Framework is based on Bazemore/Plumlee for J.R. Smith and John Henson and two future 2nds which would have went to Atlanta if they didn't convert the pick. From what I am hearing. J.R. Smith could be shopped for a 1st and an bad expiring regardless so it could be 4 teams. Atlanta has been very active in trying to move up for more 1st rounders. Haven't showed much interest in moving back. Also haven't showed much interest in trading Prince at this time from others around the league.

DeAndre Hunter is getting **** on right now in this stage. He will need to have a great pro day because teams are eating his ass alive. Been hearing he could fall to 10-12 range.

In the same boat, Culver is getting super praise right now. No chance he falls passed Cleveland at #5.

Reddish stock seem to hit a rock right now. Teams aren't too happy with his pro day and that he stopped it early for injuries. The question about his passion has been stated by numerous teams, he needs to get his **** together. His range is 7-12 right now. His potential is through the roof and a lot of teams are high on what he could be if he had the passion they believe. This is not my take, I think he's tremendous and I got several Duke staffers saying he does have the passion and love for the game but it just doesn't come in the biggest of spots. This was said in HS about him as well.

Little on the other hand stock is locked into the top 10 right now. It's hard to see the Hawks passing on him and they got a hard on for him. He translates well and his potential is sky high but his floor is really low and I have my doubts but everyone I've talked to said, even the Bulls are high on him. His hand size is legit and the saying on him isn't Leonard, it's Scottie Pippen. Teams think he will be an all star in time. His interviews were off the charts. Teams are in love in his intelligence and he was really able to explain what he did at UNC really well. He just passes all of the tests. Mental ones that is. Definitely not the production ones.

Hawks haven't really showed any signs of willingness to move back or up from 8/10. They are confident they will get what they want at #8 and #10.

Rui, Goga, and Sekou are big movers. They are lottery locks right now. Teams are all in for them.

Langford seems to be a target of the Pistons.

Bol seems like he could go in the lottery as well as the 2nd round. His stock is not good right now.

Teams are falling in love with Tyler Herro.

Teams are also falling in love with Klutch clients, Darius Bazley and Talen Horton-Tucker. They been in love with THT but they are more open with it of late.

Darius Garland stock seems to be from #4-7. The Lakers seem to be zoning in him. They also like Hunter as well.

White seems to be a lock for #6.

No one knows what the Bulls will do at #7. People say #4 is a wildcard but it's not. It's likely Garland. It's #7. I've asked what is the Bulls looking for and everyone says, Zo Ball or trade back. I am hearing Lakers have zero interest in trading Zo outside of a Beal or AD trade and no teams are dying to move up in this lottery. Seems like the Bulls will just BPA this one. I've been hearing they are high on Sekou. They have called us about #10 and taking salary which the Hawks weren't interested in at that time.

Hawks have been one of the most active teams with the Bulls during this period. I think the Hawks will get a couple more 1sts. That's what they seem to be aiming for.

Thanks for the juicy info.
Interesting that the Hawks are trying to get more 1sts- that's contrary to what Schlenk has said all year, that he's looking for future 1st, not more 2019 1st.
I guess seeing guys go through workouts, peaked his interest.

Schlenk by lyin'. We shldve known.

King Ken · Post #3920 » by **King Ken** » Tue May 28, 2019 11:29 pm

jayu70 wrote:
King Ken wrote:
jayu70 wrote:Who are the 5 which fit this critera?

Reddish
Culver
Little (Hawks really believe in him)
Hunter
Goga

They are a lot of guys like in the 20's as well.

I got a lot of new information as well.

Hawks are talking trade with Cleveland/NY.

NY wants to move back to #5 for Culver. Cleveland wants #3. If Culver is at #5, Cleveland wants to do the same deal we did last year for Doncic/Young. Issue is of course, they owe us their pick in 2020. They want it back. Willing to give the 2nd rounders owe and eat some salary for it. Framework is based on Bazemore/Plumlee for J.R. Smith and John Henson and two future 2nds which would have went to Atlanta if they didn't convert the pick. From what I am hearing. J.R. Smith could be shopped for a 1st and an bad expiring regardless so it could be 4 teams. Atlanta has been very active in trying to move up for more 1st rounders. Haven't showed much interest in moving back. Also haven't showed much interest in trading Prince at this time from others around the league.

DeAndre Hunter is getting **** on right now in this stage. He will need to have a great pro day because teams are eating his ass alive. Been hearing he could fall to 10-12 range.

In the same boat, Culver is getting super praise right now. No chance he falls passed Cleveland at #5.

Reddish stock seem to hit a rock right now. Teams aren't too happy with his pro day and that he stopped it early for injuries. The question about his passion has been stated by numerous teams, he needs to get his **** together. His range is 7-12 right now. His potential is through the roof and a lot of teams are high on what he could be if he had the passion they believe. This is not my take, I think he's tremendous and I got several Duke staffers saying he does have the passion and love for the game but it just doesn't come in the biggest of spots. This was said in HS about him as well.

Little on the other hand stock is locked into the top 10 right now. It's hard to see the Hawks passing on him and they got a hard on for him. He translates well and his potential is sky high but his floor is really low and I have my doubts but everyone I've talked to said, even the Bulls are high on him. His hand size is legit and the saying on him isn't Leonard, it's Scottie Pippen. Teams think he will be an all star in time. His interviews were off the charts. Teams are in love in his intelligence and he was really able to explain what he did at UNC really well. He just passes all of the tests. Mental ones that is. Definitely not the production ones.

Hawks haven't really showed any signs of willingness to move back or up from 8/10. They are confident they will get what they want at #8 and #10.

Rui, Goga, and Sekou are big movers. They are lottery locks right now. Teams are all in for them.

Langford seems to be a target of the Pistons.

Bol seems like he could go in the lottery as well as the 2nd round. His stock is not good right now.

Teams are falling in love with Tyler Herro.

Teams are also falling in love with Klutch clients, Darius Bazley and Talen Horton-Tucker. They been in love with THT but they are more open with it of late.

Darius Garland stock seems to be from #4-7. The Lakers seem to be zoning in him. They also like Hunter as well.

White seems to be a lock for #6.

No one knows what the Bulls will do at #7. People say #4 is a wildcard but it's not. It's likely Garland. It's #7. I've asked what is the Bulls looking for and everyone says, Zo Ball or trade back. I am hearing Lakers have zero interest in trading Zo outside of a Beal or AD trade and no teams are dying to move up in this lottery. Seems like the Bulls will just BPA this one. I've been hearing they are high on Sekou. They have called us about #10 and taking salary which the Hawks weren't interested in at that time.

Hawks have been one of the most active teams with the Bulls during this period. I think the Hawks will get a couple more 1sts. That's what they seem to be aiming for.

Thanks for the juicy info.
Interesting that the Hawks are trying to get more 1sts- that's contrary to what Schlenk has said all year, that he's looking for future 1st, not more 2019 1st.
I guess seeing guys go through workouts, peaked his interest.

A lot can change, he feels this is a deep class. Some of our scouts do as well. Losing Jeff will suck but Jeff is going to a better place for him where he has more decision making power.

The truth is, Atlanta doesn't have any interest in keeping so many picks. Aren't open to selling them (ASG era) :noway:

but are open to trading into future classes or trading into the 1st.

The other big news is Atlanta is open into making a trade for the right "guy" or signing the right guy. I got a couple of names who aren't available right now but could be for the right price. That's probably why Atlanta is likely declining interest in moving Prince for picks. As crazy as it sounds, there is going to be a war this off-season for Leonard/Durant/Kyrie/Kemba/Klay etc and teams want to do anything to get them to join their teams.

Conley isn't going to be the only quality vet moved this off-season is all I can say.

What direction should Hawks go with their lottery picks?