Absurdly early 2018 NBA Draft Thread

[kg01]

Pick6-8 range...like him a lot more than Robert Williams whose projected around the same range.

Considering John (Snow) Collins is our 4 of the future, isn't there a tremendous amount of overlap with he and Bridges/Williams? None of them are 3's or 5's. If we end up with a top-8 pick, we're definitely packaging picks for a trade. Or at least, I hope so.

If we keep the pick, I'd prefer the ba-Doncic-a-donk who appears to be dropping a bit (can you really be dropping in August?). Sexton is intriguing as a Jamal Crawford/Chuk McCollum (see what i did there? )type of ultra-offensive piece.

Positionless ball...I want a Yao type getting us into our offense. Then possibly feeding it into the paint to a 5'3" Muggsy type....Yes, bball like the world has gone mad!!!!

Honestly, I want to stop and ask some random people in the street, what's wrong with you? Needless to say, I risk a punch but sometimes you gotta weigh your options.

Let's be honest with the people, sir. You deserve a few punches. I do too.

I'm cool with positionless basketball as long as we have adequate ballhandlers and scorers first.

@jamaaaaaaliver ... I only like the ba-Doncic-a-donk if we're forced to keep the pick. I hope we're able to trade the picks for a star.

[Jamaaliver]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Collins is gonna be a star. There I said it. You guys happy now? You can only push a man so far.

Noted.

@jamaaaaaaliver...I only like the ba-Doncic-a-donk if we're forced to keep the pick. I hope we're able to trade the picks for a star.

Noted. I think there's a decent chance Dennis is dangled in trade talks during next summer's draft to jump up and get a second top 10 pick.

Just a feeling.

[Spud2nique]

Considering John (Snow) Collins is our 4 of the future, isn't there a tremendous amount of overlap with he and Bridges/Williams? None of them are 3's or 5's. If we end up with a top-8 pick, we're definitely packaging picks for a trade. Or at least, I hope so.

If we keep the pick, I'd prefer the ba-Doncic-a-donk who appears to be dropping a bit (can you really be dropping in August?). Sexton is intriguing as a Jamal Crawford/Chuk McCollum (see what i did there? )type of ultra-offensive piece.

Positionless ball...I want a Yao type getting us into our offense. Then possibly feeding it into the paint to a 5'3" Muggsy type....Yes, bball like the world has gone mad!!!!

Honestly, I want to stop and ask some random people in the street, what's wrong with you? Needless to say, I risk a punch but sometimes you gotta weigh your options.

Let's be honest with the people, sir. You deserve a few punches. I do too.

I'm cool with positionless basketball as long as we have adequate ballhandlers and scorers first.

@jamaaaaaaliver ... I only like the ba-Doncic-a-donk if we're forced to keep the pick. I hope we're able to trade the picks for a star.

That goes without saying. As Mr. Doubtfire would say.."a few light slam now n then" I kid I kid.


I'm an old school dude as you know kg so I'm against anything new trends lol..I mean I guess I enjoy some aspects like ball movement and things but miss the post ups and stars not all signing with 5 teams in the league. It's whatever we have to convert but like Jamal said...it will come back in 5 or 10 years.


On the donkey kick front, I love the guy from what I've read and seen. If he is as good as advertised, he's the next Drazen. Pair that with the next Rondo with a shot in Dennis and that's a pretty good combo. I think we will draft and keep kids for the next two drafts. It's not time to make a young star trade move in my opinion until 2019-2020. I want to build my garden organically...(please no u live in the Bay jokes lol).

[Spud2nique]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Collins is gonna be a star. There I said it. You guys happy now? You can only push a man so far.

Noted.

@jamaaaaaaliver...I only like the ba-Doncic-a-donk if we're forced to keep the pick. I hope we're able to trade the picks for a star.

Noted. I think there's a decent chance Dennis is dangled in trade talks during next summer's draft to jump up and get a second top 10 pick.

Just a feeling.

That's a definite possibility and I'm not so sure I'd be totally against that. I like Dennis a lot, he's only 23 with a few good years under his belt. He's done everything he has needed to do for the most part as far as progressing. This is a huge year for him. Im not sure which Dennis will show up? He could come out and have a year that points to building with him for the future or he could progress a bit but not enough.

As of now, if you offered me a top 5 pick in the next draft for Dennis, I'd do it in a second. Top 10, not so sure about that.

[Jamaaliver]

The tanking Hawks could get well soon: The 2018 draft looks loaded

Two major bits of basketball news have occurred, and they’ll have a direct effect on the next 10 months for Atlanta’s NBA franchise.

Marvin Bagley III, who was supposed to be the best high school player in the class of 2018, reclassified and enrolled at Duke. His presence in Durham...means the 2018 NBA draft should feature two players who could carry NBA franchises.

The other is Michael Porter Jr., previously rated the best player in the class of 2017. He’s at Missouri, where he’ll play, albeit briefly, for Cuonzo Martin. If you’re a tanking NBA team, which the Hawks are, you won’t have to win the lottery to get a guy on the order of Karl-Anthony Towns or Ben Simmons. Both Porter and Bagley — the former is a small forward, the latter a power forward — have that sort of potential.

Here, however, is where our other significant development matters: The Cleveland Cavaliers, who will not be among the league’s bottom-feeders, could land Porter or Bagley.

If we go by ESPN’s summer hoops forecast, the three worst teams in 2017-2018 will be: Atlanta, Brooklyn and Chicago. No, there’s no guarantee the ping-pong balls will fall that wa, but ESPN’s mock draft shows the Hawks picking third overall.

The 2018 draft always figured to be a deep one, and Bagley’s presence could make it one of the best ever.

The point being: If you’re going to tank, this is the year. As it stands, the Hawks have one of the worst-looking rosters anybody has ever seen. That stands to change next June.

myAJC

[macd-gm]

Maybe we need to think about moving talent over to Brooklyn.

[jayu70]

Maybe we need to think about moving talent over to Brooklyn.

When the trade deadline comes

[Spud2nique]

Belinelli +Plumlee + Baze for a bag of pretzels and an ice tea...lol...Go Nets!

[Jamaaliver]

Completely off topic, but I thought the other GoT fans in the forum would get a kick out of some of the absurdity of this season's (non-GRRM) story telling:

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[jayu70]

Completely off topic, but I thought the other GoT fans in the forum would get a kick out of some of the absurdity of this season's (non-GRRM) story telling:

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My husband and I constantly wonder what the devil is taking them so long to make this journey to the wall.
The Night King with all that arm strength should be able to create a slingshot and propel all of them straight to the wall.
Gendry who has never seen snow RAN all the way back to the wall but the walkers are having a year long stroll.

[Jamaaliver]

Back on topic:

Here's a few names for us to consider towards the end of next year's draft with that Rocket's pick:

Rodions Kurucs (Latvia, SG/SF, 1998)

Rodions Kurucs withdrew from the 2017 draft despite having a real shot to go in the first round.

Kurucs has created buzz over the years with 6'8" size, shooting range and scoring instincts. Staying healthy and shooting the three ball well will be priorities.

Rui Hachimura (Gonzaga, PF, Sophomore)

Averaging 20.6 points and 11.0 rebounds at the FIBA U19 Basketball World Cup put Rui Hachimura on NBA prospect watch.

An active leaper around the basket at both ends, he also knocked down eight threes in seven games and various pull-ups and runners inside the arc. His combination of inside play, ball-handling and shot-making is intriguing.

Hachimura only played 130 total minutes as a freshman but should see his role expand without Przemek Karnowski or Zach Collins back at Gonzaga.

Grayson Allen (Duke, SG, Senior)

Grayson Allen needs to show scouts he's matured and learned from past mistakes.

Between his explosiveness and shooting, Allen has a decent case.

He's knocked down at least 80 threes in back-to-back season and consistently showcases his athleticism off drives and in transition. His 4.7 assists per 40 minutes highlight his ability to make a quick move and set up a teammate.

[kg01]

I wouldn't have Allen on my board at all. There's something off with him. I think, if he could, he would never leave Duke.

[jayu70]

I guess this is the year for me to try and pick back up watching College basketball. I don't even know which teams the top prospects are playing for.

[MaceCase]

I wouldn't have Allen on my board at all. There's something off with him. I think, if he could, he would never leave Duke.

Don't listen to anything they tell you, Van Wilder was based on Laetner. You can just see him crushing a Natty Ice can on his forehead and taking a bong rip before he hops on his razor scooter to his AM philosophy class where he plans on catching up on sleep.

[kg01]

I wouldn't have Allen on my board at all. There's something off with him. I think, if he could, he would never leave Duke.

Don't listen to anything they tell you, Van Wilder was based on Laetner. You can just see him crushing a Natty Ice can on his forehead and taking a bong rip before he hops on his razor scooter to his AM philosophy class where he plans on catching up on sleep.

Sweet Georgia Brown, you may be right.

Allen will petition for another 4 years of eligibility. Watch and see.

[Spud2nique]

Grayson Allen is the stepchild of a guy I know, a Dolphins fan I think... (can't stop won't stop git it git it)...

No honestly, that guy is just out there to hurt people and be an idiot, I hope we don't draft him. But then again maybe we need a 2k smaller version of Bill Laimbeer..lol

[Jamaaliver]

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[tbhawksfan1]

All of projected top 5(ATL pick) look very promising: Porter, Bagley, Ayton, Bamba, Doncic. Late teens (Minny) Kevin Knox maybe and also like Kurucs (Hous).

A top 5 pick also gives us a top 5 second. Move some/all of Bel/Illya/Dedmon to get more/better draft assets.

One very bad season, then be aggressive in FAcy in the offseason .

Hawks can realistically be looking at:

Draft*: #3, #12 , #17, #33 added to Schro / Prince / Bembry / Collins / Dorsey / Baze / Plumlee. * after deadline moves

Then go hard after top young FA talent signed at least 3 years. That can be a fast and effective rebuild.

[Spud2nique]

All of projected top 5(ATL pick) look very promising: Porter, Bagley, Ayton, Bamba, Doncic. Late teens (Minny) Kevin Knox maybe and also like Kurucs (Hous).

A top 5 pick also gives us a top 5 second. Move some/all of Bel/Illya/Dedmon to get more/better draft assets.

One very bad season, then be aggressive in FAcy in the offseason .

Hawks can realistically be looking at:

Draft*: #3, #12 , #17, #33 added to Schro / Prince / Bembry / Collins / Dorsey / Baze / Plumlee. * after deadline moves

Then go hard after top young FA talent signed at least 3 years. That can be a fast and effective rebuild.

I love it...top 3 would be awesome...just to walk away with a Bagley or Porter we could be significant real quick.

I don't know where you got picks #12 and #17....I mean we do hold the Rockets pick which could turn out to be #12 (very unlikely more like #27) and #17 could be the Minny pick but that looks more like it'll be a 20-30 pick as well.

In any case, we should be good if we can get into the top 5 next year.

[tbhawksfan1]

All of projected top 5(ATL pick) look very promising: Porter, Bagley, Ayton, Bamba, Doncic. Late teens (Minny) Kevin Knox maybe and also like Kurucs (Hous).

A top 5 pick also gives us a top 5 second. Move some/all of Bel/Illya/Dedmon to get more/better draft assets.

One very bad season, then be aggressive in FAcy in the offseason .

Hawks can realistically be looking at:

Draft*: #3, #12 , #17, #33 added to Schro / Prince / Bembry / Collins / Dorsey / Baze / Plumlee. * after deadline moves

Then go hard after top young FA talent signed at least 3 years. That can be a fast and effective rebuild.

I love it...top 3 would be awesome...just to walk away with a Bagley or Porter we could be significant real quick.

I don't know where you got picks #12 and #17....I mean we do hold the Rockets pick which could turn out to be #12 (very unlikely more like #27) and #17 could be the Minny pick but that looks more like it'll be a 20-30 pick as well.

In any case, we should be good if we can get into the top 5 next year.

I'm looking for Dedmon / Bel / Illya to be traded to improve draft.

Say we end with #3, get Minny #17, Hous #26 and our second plus move ups from trades. It's hypothetical, but do-able to end up with something like my senario. Really hoping for a quick rebuild by maxing this draft and then taking advantage of our advantageous cap situation by pouncing on some key FA moves.

This season is a tank and we go into 18-19 season with something like: a nice FA or two to add to:

Ayton / Plumlee / Kaba
Collins / Moose / Yurtseven
Prince / Knox
Kurucs / Baze / Bembry
Schro / Dorsey

Even with a nice FA or two, this team is in the draft lottery again, ading another nice young pick or two. Another FA opportunity and we head into 19-20 ready for future playoff run.

I think (hope) this is the kind of plan TS has. We keep cap flex by adding nice young FAs with upside on decent deals, investing in the draft and developing the young quys.

I want the Hawks to draft and develop their stars and their team. Then, go out and beat the Brons and Currys