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steady wrote:

jayu70 wrote:I've already given up on that pick converting to us this year.

I'm already looking at who we can trade to pick up another 1st.  I'm hoping Baze to Minny, NOP or OKC.

Huerter and Bembry gets more minutes and SG, as well as Dorsey (he expires this year so would be good to know if he's worth resigning).

That Denver trade instead of Lin would look mighty nice right about now!

DEN pick - protected 1-12 - is likely to convey this year but will likely be in mid to late 20s if DEN continues its earl season good play, 5-1 and big win over Pels last night

jayu70 wrote:

steady wrote:

jayu70 wrote:I've already given up on that pick converting to us this year.

I'm already looking at who we can trade to pick up another 1st.  I'm hoping Baze to Minny, NOP or OKC.

Huerter and Bembry gets more minutes and SG, as well as Dorsey (he expires this year so would be good to know if he's worth resigning).

That Denver trade instead of Lin would look mighty nice right about now!

DEN pick - protected 1-12 - is likely to convey this year but will likely be in mid to late 20s if DEN continues its earl season good play, 5-1 and big win over Pels last night

I'd rather have the late 1st (Schlenk did quite well with late picks at #19(Huerter) and #30(Spellman) last draft) AND the 2nd over Lin.

steady wrote:

jayu70 wrote:

steady wrote:
DEN pick - protected 1-12 - is likely to convey this year but will likely be in mid to late 20s if DEN continues its earl season good play, 5-1 and big win over Pels last night

I'd rather have the late 1st (Schlenk did quite well with late picks at #19(Huerter) and #30(Spellman) last draft) AND the 2nd over Lin.

Not sure, remember you are assuming Hawks were stretching Farieds contract as well

and 2018 is going to be bad draft year . No one remotely close to Huerters level wille available in 20s

Also I think we’re seeing in recent games how helpful a healthy Lin could have been. And still could be — I think fie or six games in is too soon to throw in towel on him

mg wrote:If that Dallas pick is sitting in the 6-8 range at midseason it would make sense for them to rest vets and just tank the last few months of the season though tbh.

CP War Hawks wrote:Okay so I just checked the past 3 seasons for picks 6th, 7th, and the wins related to them respectively.

2016: 6th pick = 25 wins, 7th pick = 27 wins

2017: 6th pick = 29 wins, 7th pick = 31 wins

2018: 6th pick = 30 wins, 7th pick = 32 wins

I mean, Dallas basically has to win 30 games give or take for the pick to transfer. The West is pretty competitive though this season. There are a good 5 teams in the East that already have the top 5 lotto slots secured, so I'm not too worried.

kg01 wrote:

mg wrote:If that Dallas pick is sitting in the 6-8 range at midseason it would make sense for them to rest vets and just tank the last few months of the season though tbh.

Agreed. If they're anywhere close to that, I wouldn't put it past Cuban to do some shameful things to make sure they don't lose their pick. Honestly, doing shameful things is kinda what I expect from Cubes at this point.

steady wrote:

kg01 wrote:

mg wrote:If that Dallas pick is sitting in the 6-8 range at midseason it would make sense for them to rest vets and just tank the last few months of the season though tbh.

Agreed. If they're anywhere close to that, I wouldn't put it past Cuban to do some shameful things to make sure they don't lose their pick. Honestly, doing shameful things is kinda what I expect from Cubes at this point.

Dallas' 1st round pick to Atlanta protected for selections 1-5 in 2019, 1-5 in 2020, 1-3 in 2021 and 1-3 in 2022 and unprotected in 2023 [Atlanta-Dallas, 6/21/2018]

Dallas has incentive to give that first round pick to the Hawks the soonest they can

Things are not good for the Cleveland Cavaliers right now and the future is beginning to look anything but positive. Joe Vardon of The Athletic reports that there is a major divide in the locker room and it is first-round pick Collin Sexton that the veterans lack confidence in:

“It’s becoming increasingly clear that when you hear a Cavs veteran talk about younger players not knowing their role, or knowing how to win, or what to do on the court, they mean Sexton. Throughout the organization, the line on Sexton is that he does not “know how to play.” He doesn’t know how to defend the pick and roll. He doesn’t know how to set up teammates as a point guard.”

While George Hill reportedly told Sexton he would teach him how to play defense, the players in the locker room don’t think he will even listen to him.

“They still think he’s a nice kid. But they see his deficiencies, they know he’s going to be on the court, and they’re discouraged when after these losses, he doesn’t seem bothered by them.

steady wrote:Only team with better record than Nuggets right now is Warriors who I believe DEN beat once. They are tied for second place with Raptors.

Another surprise : there are six teams with worse records than Hawks right now.

Suns, Wizards, Cavs, Bulls, Magic. Mavs

And they are tied for seventh with BKN and NYK

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It’s really early of course

jayu70 wrote:We can definitely kiss that Cavs pick buh bye....Cavs will be getting rid of their vets soon.

Things are not good for the Cleveland Cavaliers right now and the future is beginning to look anything but positive. Joe Vardon of The Athletic reports that there is a major divide in the locker room and it is first-round pick Collin Sexton that the veterans lack confidence in:

“It’s becoming increasingly clear that when you hear a Cavs veteran talk about younger players not knowing their role, or knowing how to win, or what to do on the court, they mean Sexton. Throughout the organization, the line on Sexton is that he does not “know how to play.” He doesn’t know how to defend the pick and roll. He doesn’t know how to set up teammates as a point guard.”

While George Hill reportedly told Sexton he would teach him how to play defense, the players in the locker room don’t think he will even listen to him.

“They still think he’s a nice kid. But they see his deficiencies, they know he’s going to be on the court, and they’re discouraged when after these losses, he doesn’t seem bothered by them.

I'll just say, I'm glad the Hawks have the RIGHT vets on our team mentoring our 3 rookies.

steady wrote:

kg01 wrote:

mg wrote:If that Dallas pick is sitting in the 6-8 range at midseason it would make sense for them to rest vets and just tank the last few months of the season though tbh.

Agreed. If they're anywhere close to that, I wouldn't put it past Cuban to do some shameful things to make sure they don't lose their pick. Honestly, doing shameful things is kinda what I expect from Cubes at this point.

Dallas' 1st round pick to Atlanta protected for selections 1-5 in 2019, 1-5 in 2020, 1-3 in 2021 and 1-3 in 2022 and unprotected in 2023 [Atlanta-Dallas, 6/21/2018]

Dallas has incentive to give that first round pick to the Hawks the soonest they can