Absurdly early 2018 NBA Draft Thread

[jayu70]

Would this give us pause in taking him?

Let's say we have the third pick with Bagley and Ayton already off the board and Doncic having already announced that he'll spend another year in Europe. Do we take Luka anyway or do we pass and take another prospect/trade out of that spot.

It takes a while to learn our system so I'm sure that Coach Bud would like for him to be here as soon as possible, but at the same time I don't see how we pass up on him in that scenario.

We're not one piece away so I'm sure we'd tank for another top 5 pick and then have a super rookie class for the 2019-2020 season featuring Doncic and another (hopefully) elite prospect. The problem there is that by then Dennis would be in the middle of his prime with his contract winding down and Prince will be entering his prime with our main building blocks (Collins, Doncic, 2019 pick) all aged 21 or younger.


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If he plans on staying over he won't enter the draft so we can't draft him.
If he stays over he'll likely sign a contract over there and they'll want him to sign a contract with a buyout, then things get really complicated with buyout and such.
I don't think any NBA club uses such a high lottery pick on a guy they won't have immediately - has that ever happened?

We can draft his rights for when he decides to come to the NBA. The 76ers used a first on Dario Saric who didn't come over for two years. Same thing with the Wolves using the 4th pick on Rubio who decided to stay in Barcelona rather than come over immediately.


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You are correct, I was racking my brain trying to think of examples.
He'll have to enter draft though. This is interesting, worth exploring.

[Jamaaliver]

You draft the best player. Whether he comes over at age 18 or 21, you pick up the kid's draft rights and go from there.

And if he stays an extra year or two, it's to our benefit. He gets stronger, even more polished on someone else's dime. If we can have 24 year old Doncic putting up stellar production on a rookie contract--that's a good thing.

Off the top of my head, first round picks who didn't join the NBA immediately:

Dario Saric
Bebe Nogueria
Frederic Weis
David Robinson (military commitment)


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[Spud2nique]

You draft the best player. Whether he comes over at age 18 or 21, you pick up the kid's draft rights and go from there.

And if he stays an extra year or two, it's to our benefit. He gets stronger, even more polished on someone else's dime. If we can have 24 year old Doncic putting up stellar production on a rookie contract--that's a good thing.

Off the top of my head, first round picks who didn't join the NBA immediately:

Dario Saric
Bebe Nogueiria
Frederic Weis
David Robinson (military commitment)


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Also Fran Vasquez...I'm awaiting the airport pickup call any day now....

[Jamaaliver]

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Is he Curry or Jimmer Fredette? Obviously he's got range for days...good passer as well it seems...he made a pass from behind half court and spotted his guy right under the hoop...vision is there as well it seems. His speed and strength worry me but he can work on that later. Minny pick at 20 perhaps? Houston pick at 29?

[Jamaaliver]

He is rising up draft boards but still exceptionally green.

He isn't a lotto pick yet. But he compares well to 19 year old Steph Curry.

Can he achieve Two time MVP status? unlikely.
Can he be a productive Steve Nash-style scorer and playmaker?


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[Jamaaliver]

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I'd be pleased if we added any 2 of these 3 players in the draft.

[kg01]

I think I need an intervention. I now have a reason to hate all the supposed top players in this year's draft. I just realized I hate Ayton because he plays for Bust U.

Seriously, I defy you to name me a big-time(sic) player from Arizona who hasn't been a bust in the Miller era.

Ah man, is this what tanking fans go through every year? Fall into/out of love with prospects all season long. I hate this.

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Bulls | DeAndre Ayton, C, Arizona | Fr.
Ayton rates as the top prospect on our Big Board and has a strong case to go first overall. He checks every physical box you’d want in a center and already possesses a legitimate jump shot.

He needs to improve defensively, but has all the ability to do it.


Hawks | Luka Doncic, G, Real Madrid | 18 years old
Perhaps the most complete and accomplished European draft prospect we’ve ever seen, Doncic’s body of work is hard to argue with. He’s a savvy lead ball-handler and playmaker and easy to peg as the most NBA-ready player in this class, already putting up massive numbers in the Euroleague at age 18. He’s not a high-end athlete, but Doncic is advanced enough in essentially every other area that it may not matter. He has a strong case for the top spot and won’t fall far.


Mavericks | Marvin Bagley III, F/C, Duke | Fr.
Bagley’s early-season production has matched the hype. He’s emerged as perhaps the best rebounder in college basketball and an athletic mismatch on the interior, dominating opponents despite his slim physique.

His offensive skill set has a ways to go, but if his jumper comes around, the upside is significant.

[jayu70]

I think I need an intervention. I now have a reason to hate all the supposed top players in this year's draft. I just realized I hate Ayton because he plays for Bust U.

Seriously, I defy you to name me a big-time(sic) player from Arizona who hasn't been a bust in the Miller era.

Ah man, is this what tanking fans go through every year? Fall into/out of love with prospects all season long. I hate this.

Do like me - watch none of it and pray and hope we pick the 'right' player that can be a franchise player for years to come. All these picks have strengths and flaws, some more than others. Seems like the top 5 picks can rotate so it means more debates as opposed to a draft of 1.

[CP War Hawks]

Once Bamba fills out, he should be perhaps a better version of Gobert. His broad shoulders and long arms indicate he'll eventually amass 250+. I understand the reservations, because it'll take a long minute.

He's going to be such a defensive presence. The Hawks have such a good offensive scheme that it really isn't necessary for the center to score much, but we'll see how Schlenk goes about this draft. We need 3 of 4 of these picks to pan gold. There should be more picks added with so many guys candidates to be traded.

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[Jamaaliver]

A guy we need to pay more attention to is Brandon McCoy, he is going beast at UNLV at the moment. If Ayton is KAT, then McCoy would be Myles Turner in comparison.

In a head to head matchup against D Ayton and Arizona, B 'Real' McCoy put on a show. Ending the game with 33 points and 10 rebounds in a tight OT loss against Ayton.

It is, indeed, time to pay more attention to the kid.

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Spoiler:

Brandon McCoy, C, UNLV | Freshman

Height: 7'0" | Weight: 250 | Age: 19

McCoy is all tools at this stage, but he’s physically impressive for a young center. He can get up and down the floor and goes after the ball well off the glass. His timing and feel are still coming along, but he naturally alters shots and has shown some ability to shoot from the mid-range. McCoy needs to be coached up and will need a strong season to win scouts over as a project.

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[atlantabbq99]

A guy we need to pay more attention to is Brandon McCoy, he is going beast at UNLV at the moment. If Ayton is KAT, then McCoy would be Myles Turner in comparison.

In a head to head matchup against D Ayton and Arizona, B 'Real' McCoy put on a show. Ending the game with 33 points and 10 rebounds in a tight OT loss against Ayton.

It is, indeed, time to pay more attention to the kid.

Profile is below:

Spoiler:

Brandon McCoy, C, UNLV | Freshman

Height: 7'0" | Weight: 250 | Age: 19

McCoy is all tools at this stage, but he’s physically impressive for a young center. He can get up and down the floor and goes after the ball well off the glass. His timing and feel are still coming along, but he naturally alters shots and has shown some ability to shoot from the mid-range. McCoy needs to be coached up and will need a strong season to win scouts over as a project.

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Both guys look good. Ayton looks so smooth and looks like a 7foot SF at times and he showed off his ability to create for himself. McCoy is so physically gifted and looks like a true center, his ability to move without the ball and play that traditional center role was impressive.

Now that Porter is out of the picture, McCoy looks like a great replacement as a top five prospect.

Ayton
Carter
Bagley
McCoy
Luka

[Jamaaliver]

Both guys look good. Ayton looks so smooth and looks like a 7foot SF at times and he showed off his ability to create for himself. McCoy is so physically gifted and looks like a true center, his ability to move without the ball and play that traditional center role was impressive.

Now that Porter is out of the picture, McCoy looks like a great replacement as a top five prospect.

My, my.

McCoy is certainly on an upward trajectory in terms of draft stock, but top 5....

I'll have to pay closer attention.

Regarding Ayton, it's a bit concerning that his team keeps losing so much. Including a 25 point blowout.

[atlantabbq99]

Both guys look good. Ayton looks so smooth and looks like a 7foot SF at times and he showed off his ability to create for himself. McCoy is so physically gifted and looks like a true center, his ability to move without the ball and play that traditional center role was impressive.

Now that Porter is out of the picture, McCoy looks like a great replacement as a top five prospect.

My, my.

McCoy is certainly on an upward trajectory in terms of draft stock, but top 5....

I'll have to pay closer attention.

Regarding Ayton, it's a bit concerning that his team keeps losing so much. Including a 25 point blowout.

eh, the 2013 Jayhawks weren't that great either and they had more talent then Arizona now.

[Jamaaliver]

Um...okay?

[Spud2nique]

Luka or bust campaign...coming to a town near you...This kid is the best thing since sliced bread...He and Bud would be wonderful together.

[Ball4life32]

A guy we need to pay more attention to is Brandon McCoy, he is going beast at UNLV at the moment. If Ayton is KAT, then McCoy would be Myles Turner in comparison.

In a head to head matchup against D Ayton and Arizona, B 'Real' McCoy put on a show. Ending the game with 33 points and 10 rebounds in a tight OT loss against Ayton.

It is, indeed, time to pay more attention to the kid.

Profile is below:

Spoiler:

Brandon McCoy, C, UNLV | Freshman

Height: 7'0" | Weight: 250 | Age: 19

McCoy is all tools at this stage, but he’s physically impressive for a young center. He can get up and down the floor and goes after the ball well off the glass. His timing and feel are still coming along, but he naturally alters shots and has shown some ability to shoot from the mid-range. McCoy needs to be coached up and will need a strong season to win scouts over as a project.

Sports Illustrated

Watch on YouTube

Both guys look good. Ayton looks so smooth and looks like a 7foot SF at times and he showed off his ability to create for himself. McCoy is so physically gifted and looks like a true center, his ability to move without the ball and play that traditional center role was impressive.

Now that Porter is out of the picture, McCoy looks like a great replacement as a top five prospect.

Ayton
Carter
Bagley
McCoy
Luka

Why is Porter out of the picture? Even if he doesn’t play this year I’ll be shocked if he still doesn’t go top 5. Rumor is that he’s not done for the year though but we’ll see.

[Jamaaliver]

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