Hawks Rotations and Lineups in the Quin Era

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What do you think that they can win?

Hawks lineups built around Dyson and the vets have been dominant.

Even without Jalen Johnson.

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This is the type of dynamic I'd hoped we'd see between Okongwu and Jalen by now.

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A major roster construction issue.

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A few roster questions at the half season:

Why can't Keaton Wallace get a real contract and get 13 mins a game at back up PG? He has absolutely entered the rotation convo

Is trading Bog the move that needs to happen? He is the most logical trade to clear space to balance the roster next season while staying under the apron. With his age, contract and play this season, Hawks would be very lucky to get an expiring for him.

Continue developing the guys. Gueye, Plowden, Barlow, Wallace all need to play. Whether CP or on Hawks they need consistent mins and development. Maybe expand the rotation a bit during RS

[jayu70]

A few roster questions at the half season:

Why can't Keaton Wallace get a real contract and get 13 mins a game at back up PG? He has absolutely entered the rotation convo

Is trading Bog the move that needs to happen? He is the most logical trade to clear space to balance the roster next season while staying under the apron. With his age, contract and play this season, Hawks would be very lucky to get an expiring for him.

Continue developing the guys. Gueye, Plowden, Barlow, Wallace all need to play. Whether CP or on Hawks they need consistent mins and development. Maybe expand the rotation a bit during RS

We currently have a full roster, with Zeller wasting the last roster spot. If they can't find a trade to clear his spot and salary, he'll most likely be waived by the TDL.
We are currently $1.2 million under the LT.
If you are signing Wallace, you want him on a deal that allows you to keep his bird rights, but Hawks won't and shouldn't exceed the tax to sign him, even if it's a minimum deal.

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Trae, Dyson, Hunter, Jalen and Okongwu were dominant last night.

[jayu70]

Good Interview by Hunter

Before facing the Knicks at Madison Square Garden on January 20, Hawks forward De’Andre Hunter sat down with HoopsHype to discuss his career season coming off the bench, his Sixth Man of the Year candidacy, how coach Quin Snyder has unlocked his potential, Atlanta’s young core going forward, Trae Young’s growth, and more.

How did you find your way into a 3-and-D role and come into the draft with that label?

Hunter: It’s a label. It’s not who you are as a player. You get labeled by the media or another person to be this, but I know who I am as a player. I know I play defense and can score.

What’s led to your career season while coming off the bench in a new role?

Hunter: I think we’re playing a lot differently this year. We’re definitely moving the ball a lot more. We’re getting out in transition a lot more. As far as my role, coming off the bench has been a different role. I think I’m looked at as the playmaker or scorer in that second unit. That’s the expectation. I think I can score pretty well, so it’s not too hard for me.

How has the team’s dynamic changed after trading Dejounte Murray for Dyson Daniels in addition to the young core pieces already here?

Hunter: I think you see a lot of growth, especially with guys like Jalen Johnson and Dyson Daniels, who came from New Orleans, where he didn’t play too much. You can see what kind of defensive player he is. JJ (Johnson) has grown into being a star himself. If we continue to progress and get better, the sky will be the limit for us. I think we can compete with anyone right now this year. Hopefully, we can keep the guys together and continue to get better.

How would you describe playing for coach Quin Snyder?

Hunter: Quin has a lot of energy, but I call it good energy because he’s motivating, helping, and guiding us to do the right things. He’s probably one of my favorite coaches I’ve played for. I’ve got nothing but love for Q.

Is there anything Quin Snyder has done that’s impacted your game?

Hunter: Quin really believes in me. As a player, when you can sense that a coach believes in you, it does a lot for your confidence. He always talks to me. He tells me to shoot more even when I think I’ve shot a lot. Hearing things like that really makes it a lot easier to go out there and play my game.

What are your thoughts on your candidacy for Sixth Man of the Year?

Hunter: Honestly, I don’t really care about it. If I win the award, I win it. If I don’t, nothing is going to change in my life. It would be an honor if I get the award to get recognized by the NBA, but if we win as a team and I don’t win the award, that would be better for me.

What evolution in Trae Young’s game have you seen as his teammate?

Hunter: Trae is older. When you become older, you mature more mentally and physically. I think you’re seeing that in his game. I think it’s slowed down for him a little bit. He’s always been a great passer, but knowing where guys will be and having years together where you have chemistry allows you to be better yourself and make better decisions. I think that’s what we’re seeing. He’s always been, in my opinion, a fantastic passer and scorer. I think he’s just taking it to another level this year, especially with his passing.

Do you think Trae Young’s passing gets overlooked because he can score 30 points?

Hunter: I think all people really care about is scoring anyway. Fans, analysts, those people, that’s what they focus on. He averages almost 12 assists. I think that’s crazy and should be talked about more, especially coming from a guy who can score 30 or 40 any night. I think we need to grow more of an appreciation for the overall game instead of just focusing on just one aspect of it.

https://hoopshype.com/lists/nba-intel-cam-johnson-trade-talks-clint-capelas-future-mike-conley-and-deandre-hunter-chats/

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A few roster questions at the half season:

Why can't Keaton Wallace get a real contract and get 13 mins a game at back up PG? He has absolutely entered the rotation convo

Is trading Bog the move that needs to happen? He is the most logical trade to clear space to balance the roster next season while staying under the apron. With his age, contract and play this season, Hawks would be very lucky to get an expiring for him.

Continue developing the guys. Gueye, Plowden, Barlow, Wallace all need to play. Whether CP or on Hawks they need consistent mins and development. Maybe expand the rotation a bit during RS

Bog only gets traded if he wants out. His contract is value. 16m next season, player option at 16m after next season. It should be easy to move him if he wants out.





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[jayu70]

A few roster questions at the half season:

Why can't Keaton Wallace get a real contract and get 13 mins a game at back up PG? He has absolutely entered the rotation convo

Is trading Bog the move that needs to happen? He is the most logical trade to clear space to balance the roster next season while staying under the apron. With his age, contract and play this season, Hawks would be very lucky to get an expiring for him.

Continue developing the guys. Gueye, Plowden, Barlow, Wallace all need to play. Whether CP or on Hawks they need consistent mins and development. Maybe expand the rotation a bit during RS

Bog only gets traded if he wants out. His contract is value. 16m next season, player option at 16m after next season. It should be easy to move him if he wants out.





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So are you saying if the Hawks get a great offer for him, but he doesn't want to be traded they won't trade him?

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I was fearing that this Capela-Okongwu swap would break the chemistry, this seems to be the case.
Chemistry can be built again with Okongwu starting, but I think it's a stupid decision to do such a swap just before the All Star selection, and instead of continuing to fight for one the of the top6 spot, they are now 8th, and players have fewer chances to be selected.
Why not doing this swap after the All Star break?

[jayu70]

Might be time for MoG's return if JJ is out for any length of time.

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A few roster questions at the half season:

Why can't Keaton Wallace get a real contract and get 13 mins a game at back up PG? He has absolutely entered the rotation convo

Is trading Bog the move that needs to happen? He is the most logical trade to clear space to balance the roster next season while staying under the apron. With his age, contract and play this season, Hawks would be very lucky to get an expiring for him.

Continue developing the guys. Gueye, Plowden, Barlow, Wallace all need to play. Whether CP or on Hawks they need consistent mins and development. Maybe expand the rotation a bit during RS

Bog only gets traded if he wants out. His contract is value. 16m next season, player option at 16m after next season. It should be easy to move him if he wants out.





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So are you saying if the Hawks get a great offer for him, but he doesn't want to be traded they won't trade him?

It depends on what you consider a great offer?

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[Jamaaliver]

We really need an NBA caliber backup PF.

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[jayu70]

We really need an NBA caliber backup PF.

Said it last season and this season. Yet here we are.

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• AJ Griffin
• Tyrese Hunter Martin
• Kobe Bufkin
• Mo Gueye
• Seth Lundy

An entire generation of young talent is missing in action for Atlanta.

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• AJ Griffin
• Tyrese Hunter Martin
• Kobe Bufkin
• Mo Gueye
• Seth Lundy

An entire generation of young talent is missing in action for Atlanta.

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Right? It's disappointing and frustrating.

Our draft pick history if others are interested in looking them over.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/ATL/draft.html

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Bog only gets traded if he wants out. His contract is value. 16m next season, player option at 16m after next season. It should be easy to move him if he wants out.





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So are you saying if the Hawks get a great offer for him, but he doesn't want to be traded they won't trade him?

It depends on what you consider a great offer?

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I think it would be foolish not to trade him considering his inconsistency and health issues. He's too streaky for what we currently have, and with Hunter's remodeling into a 6th man, Bogi's impact isn't what it once was. I think we're well past the point of thinking that Bogi can't be let go. We've got to continue building more around Trae.

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So are you saying if the Hawks get a great offer for him, but he doesn't want to be traded they won't trade him?

It depends on what you consider a great offer?

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I think it would be foolish not to trade him considering his inconsistency and health issues. He's too streaky for what we currently have, and with Hunter's remodeling into a 6th man, Bogi's impact isn't what it once was. I think we're well past the point of thinking that Bogi can't be let go. We've got to continue building more around Trae.

He is having the worst season of his career. His value is far too low to move him for enough value to justify and his contract is friendly enough to keep him on the books. 

2027-28 Free Agent. At this point, he will have been a Hawk for 7 seasons. Next season will be the time to move him, not now.

I don't mind keeping him for international reasons. 



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It depends on what you consider a great offer?

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I think it would be foolish not to trade him considering his inconsistency and health issues. He's too streaky for what we currently have, and with Hunter's remodeling into a 6th man, Bogi's impact isn't what it once was. I think we're well past the point of thinking that Bogi can't be let go. We've got to continue building more around Trae.

He is having the worst season of his career. His value is far too low to move him for enough value to justify and his contract is friendly enough to keep him on the books. 

2027-28 Free Agent. At this point, he will have been a Hawk for 7 seasons. Next season will be the time to move him, not now.

I don't mind keeping him for international reasons. 



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That's the kicker here. He's 32, and will be heading into his age 33 season next season, yet he's having his worst season of his career. He's not over the hill, but he's a luxury even with his team friendly deal. At least when Landry is talking about staying under the tax.

That could be the difference in making a move for a true upgrade and us making a lateral move. I just don't see enough of a resurgence in his value to suggest we need to be holding onto him when Mathews can provide similar production in a vacuum.

The direction we're headed right now suggests that Bogi needs to go just as much as Clint.