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I have no idea how popular the NBA is in Australia, but I suspect we're gonna see Dyson with some inflated All Star Vote Totals from fans Down Under.
The amount of Australian press he's getting on a mediocre Hawks team is pretty impressive.
            
                                    
                                    
                        The amount of Australian press he's getting on a mediocre Hawks team is pretty impressive.
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If Jalen Johnson gets an All Star Nod, I think I'd like to see DD rewarded with that Most Improved Player Award.
Though his modest shooting numbers will likely prevent it from happening.
            
                                    
                                    
                        Though his modest shooting numbers will likely prevent it from happening.
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Jamaaliver wrote:
Trae setting a back screen to free Dyson.
Trae setting screens is becoming a thing - I like it!
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jayu70 wrote:Jamaaliver wrote:
Trae setting a back screen to free Dyson.
Trae setting screens is becoming a thing - I like it!
Trae screened two guys by pushing his guy into Daniel's guy. I love it
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Hawks gave up too much for Murray. This being said, he was very good as a Hawk.
Pells gave up too much for Murray! Murray / DD is an even swap. Everything else is just gravy for the Hawks!
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graymule wrote::D
Hawks gave up too much for Murray. This being said, he was very good as a Hawk.
Pells gave up too much for Murray! Murray / DD is an even swap. Everything else is just gravy for the Hawks!
The good kind of gravy made from simmering the marrow out of the bone
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At this point I take DD over DM every time
Equal value, MUCH better fit and better future
Hawks are a transformed team and DD is playing a huge role in the transformation
            
                                    
                                    
                        Equal value, MUCH better fit and better future
Hawks are a transformed team and DD is playing a huge role in the transformation
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tbhawksfan1 wrote:At this point I take DD over DM every time...
You gonna feel this way even if Dyson holds out for more money on this next contract?

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Jamaaliver wrote:tbhawksfan1 wrote:At this point I take DD over DM every time...
You gonna feel this way even if Dyson holds out for more money on this next contract?
I value performance but contract and team vibes matter. I trust that DD is an intelligent young man and will make a bright decision
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Jamaaliver wrote:tbhawksfan1 wrote:At this point I take DD over DM every time...
You gonna feel this way even if Dyson holds out for more money on this next contract?
I'm never going to let players holding out for more money cloud my perception.
Just do what they do on the court and I'm happy.
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I'm 100% a team guy. Sometimes I like the players on the team a lot; sometimes a bit less.
If they move to another team, they are no longer a Hawk. Nothing personal. Just not a Hawk.
When it comes time to negociate, I want compromise. I want a player that wants to play for the Hawks
Players that want to be Hawks find a common middle ground and stay and those that don't move on
I have not followed the Hawks since about 1970 for any player. So many have come and gone and I appreciate their efforts and contributions. I don't want them to get "over-paid".
That said I'm not pro owner or management either. They too come and go
            
                                    
                                    
                        If they move to another team, they are no longer a Hawk. Nothing personal. Just not a Hawk.
When it comes time to negociate, I want compromise. I want a player that wants to play for the Hawks
Players that want to be Hawks find a common middle ground and stay and those that don't move on
I have not followed the Hawks since about 1970 for any player. So many have come and gone and I appreciate their efforts and contributions. I don't want them to get "over-paid".
That said I'm not pro owner or management either. They too come and go
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tbhawksfan1 wrote:I'm 100% a team guy. Sometimes I like the players on the team a lot; sometimes a bit less.
If they move to another team, they are no longer a Hawk. Nothing personal. Just not a Hawk.
When it comes time to negociate, I want compromise. I want a player that wants to play for the Hawks
Players that want to be Hawks find a common middle ground and stay and those that don't move on
I have not followed the Hawks since about 1970 for any player. So many have come and gone and I appreciate their efforts and contributions. I don't want them to get "over-paid".
That said I'm not pro owner or management either. They too come and go
I try to view it in the vein of what I would want as compensation in my regular job (yes I know it's not because of the high dollar figure)...but the principals are the same for me. Pay me market conditions and what I think I'm worth.
If I'm ok taking less to stay because I like the company so be it, but on the flip side I'm not taking less just because either.
It's not my money and the owners have a whole lot more that they a shelling out.
The cost of doing business.
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jayu70 wrote:tbhawksfan1 wrote:I'm 100% a team guy. Sometimes I like the players on the team a lot; sometimes a bit less.
If they move to another team, they are no longer a Hawk. Nothing personal. Just not a Hawk.
When it comes time to negociate, I want compromise. I want a player that wants to play for the Hawks
Players that want to be Hawks find a common middle ground and stay and those that don't move on
I have not followed the Hawks since about 1970 for any player. So many have come and gone and I appreciate their efforts and contributions. I don't want them to get "over-paid".
That said I'm not pro owner or management either. They too come and go
I try to view it in the vein of what I would want as compensation in my regular job (yes I know it's not because of the high dollar figure)...but the principals are the same for me. Pay me market conditions and what I think I'm worth.
If I'm ok taking less to stay because I like the company so be it, but on the flip side I'm not taking less just because either.
It's not my money and the owners have a whole lot more that they a shelling out.
The cost of doing business.
The NBA cap is part of the competitive system. You have limited funds to pay talent. I'm not trying to screw players. I'm not a fan of the money NBA makes. But as I say contracts are an important factor in building a team


