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2019 NBA Draft Prep

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What direction should Hawks go with their lottery picks?

Sekou Doumbouya
19
18%
Coby White
4
4%
Jaxson Hayes
9
9%
Nassir Little
5
5%
Cam Reddish
35
34%
Bol Bol
14
14%
Brandon Clarke
10
10%
Trade the picks
7
7%
 
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#601 » by kg01 » Wed Jan 9, 2019 7:40 pm

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Jamaaliver wrote:^When it comes to on court fit and locker room fit, I truly believe J Culver is the absolute best option for our team.

He isn't the best talent, but seems the clear best fit for what we're building. And he appears to have the size to play the SF position for us, which will be a priority moving forward.


So last year I had Luka, you had Wendell and kg had sexy Sexton. This year we all on Culver! Wow! Good. Less back n forth lol.


No ... no, that won't do. Too much consensus. Plus I can't be seen agreeing with @jaammmmmal too much. He may think I'm trying to be his friend again. :)

Only question I have on any of these wangs is which one can create their own offense. That's what we lack. Culver may be that guy. Barrett may be the closest to being 'that guy' but we may draft too low to land him.

Williamson is the biggest name and prospect but I still question what is his actual game at the next level.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#602 » by Spud2nique » Wed Jan 9, 2019 8:40 pm

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Jamaaliver wrote:^When it comes to on court fit and locker room fit, I truly believe J Culver is the absolute best option for our team.

He isn't the best talent, but seems the clear best fit for what we're building. And he appears to have the size to play the SF position for us, which will be a priority moving forward.


So last year I had Luka, you had Wendell and kg had sexy Sexton. This year we all on Culver! Wow! Good. Less back n forth lol.

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Should we be drafting for 'fit/need' or 'Best Player'
Except Zion, are all these wings comparable?



From what I’ve seen they each bring a different skills to the table.

I have :

Cam- he’s good and he knows it...if he puts in work he can be special for sure, I don’t love the entitled swag. I like humble kids..

Culver: Humble systems guy that will fit nicely on our team. If we drafted Trae and Huerter, this is the mold we go this year as well.
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Post#603 » by Spud2nique » Wed Jan 9, 2019 8:42 pm

The last guy and rising on my boards is Keldon Johnson. This kid seems to have skill, with some physical toughness. I like this guy very much. He can hit from different spots and he takes his defensive assignments personally from tape I’ve seen.
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Post#604 » by Spud2nique » Wed Jan 9, 2019 8:44 pm

kg01 wrote:
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Jamaaliver wrote:^When it comes to on court fit and locker room fit, I truly believe J Culver is the absolute best option for our team.

He isn't the best talent, but seems the clear best fit for what we're building. And he appears to have the size to play the SF position for us, which will be a priority moving forward.


So last year I had Luka, you had Wendell and kg had sexy Sexton. This year we all on Culver! Wow! Good. Less back n forth lol.


No ... no, that won't do. Too much consensus. Plus I can't be seen agreeing with @jaammmmmal too much. He may think I'm trying to be his friend again. :)

Only question I have on any of these wangs is which one can create their own offense. That's what we lack. Culver may be that guy. Barrett may be the closest to being 'that guy' but we may draft too low to land him.

Williamson is the biggest name and prospect but I still question what is his actual game at the next level.



I know....I know..agreeing with Jamaal is like going to the dentist for Jeff Teague..he’s afraid and rightfully so.

I have 0 questions about Zion. He can play 1-5 for me, he’s very very real. I can’t believe this dude is 18. I think I said the same about 2 other guys..Lebron and Oden.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#605 » by Jamaaliver » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:59 pm

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Should we be drafting for 'fit/need' or 'Best Player'

Except Zion, are all these wings comparable?




A fair question. I think it has to come into play at least somewhat. (If we used a second straight 1st round pick on a PG, that'd be frustrating indeed.)

Fortunately, most of the top players from this draft fill a need for this team...skill wise anyway.
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Post#606 » by Jamaaliver » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:03 pm

With that in mind:

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5. Cam Reddish | G/F | Duke

Is it possible Reddish’s game is already stretched too far toward his NBA baseline? Could playing next to stars, though elite role players are still incredibly valuable in the draft, be limiting him more than his teammates? As players move up the ranks, they are supposed to fine-tune their game, but they are also supposed to benefit from better teammates. Reddish is taking a back seat at Duke but it could be hampering his growth already.

Over 62 percent of Reddish’s shot attempts are from deep, an insane number higher than that of all but the most limited offensive players (think Steve Novak early in his career). He rarely even dribbles. In the NBA, players with this specific skill set get paid millions and win lots of games. Klay Thompson notoriously rarely puts the ball on the deck despite scoring points in bunches. Reddish could ultimately join this line of players, but his role in college means we may never see the other side again.

The 3-and-D archetype is swallowing Reddish. Modern, analytically inclined teams will see Reddish’s 3-point efficiency and size and immediately imagine slotting him along the perimeter on their team. They might miss out on Reddish’s upside.

Atlanta feels like a team that could tap into both. He would join Kevin Huerter in a wing rotation heavy on offense but also enter a wide-open situation in which he could shoot more often. He would also help the Hawks’ team defense and add to their bright young core if he falls this far
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Post#607 » by Spud2nique » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:37 am

Jamaaliver wrote:With that in mind:

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5. Cam Reddish | G/F | Duke

Is it possible Reddish’s game is already stretched too far toward his NBA baseline? Could playing next to stars, though elite role players are still incredibly valuable in the draft, be limiting him more than his teammates? As players move up the ranks, they are supposed to fine-tune their game, but they are also supposed to benefit from better teammates. Reddish is taking a back seat at Duke but it could be hampering his growth already.

Over 62 percent of Reddish’s shot attempts are from deep, an insane number higher than that of all but the most limited offensive players (think Steve Novak early in his career). He rarely even dribbles. In the NBA, players with this specific skill set get paid millions and win lots of games. Klay Thompson notoriously rarely puts the ball on the deck despite scoring points in bunches. Reddish could ultimately join this line of players, but his role in college means we may never see the other side again.

The 3-and-D archetype is swallowing Reddish. Modern, analytically inclined teams will see Reddish’s 3-point efficiency and size and immediately imagine slotting him along the perimeter on their team. They might miss out on Reddish’s upside.

Atlanta feels like a team that could tap into both. He would join Kevin Huerter in a wing rotation heavy on offense but also enter a wide-open situation in which he could shoot more often. He would also help the Hawks’ team defense and add to their bright young core if he falls this far
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I believe Reddish can and will be able to tap back into the skills he had before Duke. Too many dudes there with too much skill. Mike makes them share the spotlight. Getting Cam makes me giddy if he meets his potential.
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Post#608 » by CP War Hawks » Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:04 am

If the Hawks stick with the no. 5 selection, I'd go with Culver or Hachumira. I think Culver's comp for a current player is Butler. With Rui, it's not a comp perse but I see glimpses of Leonard. It's just the way he gets to his spot and generally operates. A power 3 of sorts.

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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#609 » by jayu70 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:09 am

CP War Hawks wrote:If the Hawks stick with the no. 5 selection, I'd go with Culver or Hachumira. I think Culver's comp for a current player is Butler. With Rui, it's not a comp perse but I see glimpses of Leonard. It's just the way he gets to his spot and generally operates. A power 3 of sorts.


How's the Hatchimal's defense.
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Post#610 » by CP War Hawks » Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:20 am

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CP War Hawks wrote:If the Hawks stick with the no. 5 selection, I'd go with Culver or Hachumira. I think Culver's comp for a current player is Butler. With Rui, it's not a comp perse but I see glimpses of Leonard. It's just the way he gets to his spot and generally operates. A power 3 of sorts.


How's the Hatchimal's defense.


I don't know, that's the real question. Going back to combine, Leonard was 6-6 w/o shoes, 227 with a 7-3 wingspan. Of course he's known for his huge hands, but also had a very low 5.4% body fat. Hachumira will measure very close to this.

I did find this scouting report so take it for what it's worth. https://www.nbascoutinglive.com/rui-hachimura-scouting-report


Pros:

Strong finisher around the basket

Fairly good scorer off the dribble

Adequate low post scorer

Decent shooter

Excels at scoring on the move

Fairly good rebounder

Solid athlete

Has large hands

Rock solid motor

Cons:

Inconsistent shooter

Reluctant to take jumpers

Can struggle to score in traffic

Not an elite ball handler

Can tend to have lapses defensively

Did not play enough in his first two seasons

Can be too inconsistent in games
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Post#611 » by jayu70 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:24 am

CP War Hawks wrote:
jayu70 wrote:
CP War Hawks wrote:If the Hawks stick with the no. 5 selection, I'd go with Culver or Hachumira. I think Culver's comp for a current player is Butler. With Rui, it's not a comp perse but I see glimpses of Leonard. It's just the way he gets to his spot and generally operates. A power 3 of sorts.


How's the Hatchimal's defense.


I don't know, that's the real question. Going back to combine, Leonard was 6-6 w/o shoes, 227 with a 7-3 wingspan. Of course he's known for his huge hands, but also had a very low 5.4% body fat. Hachumira will measure very close to this.

I did find this scouting report so take it for what it's worth. https://www.nbascoutinglive.com/rui-hachimura-scouting-report


Pros:

Strong finisher around the basket

Fairly good scorer off the dribble

Adequate low post scorer

Decent shooter

Excels at scoring on the move

Fairly good rebounder

Solid athlete

Has large hands

Rock solid motor

Cons:

Inconsistent shooter

Reluctant to take jumpers

Can struggle to score in traffic

Not an elite ball handler

Can tend to have lapses defensively

Did not play enough in his first two seasons

Can be too inconsistent in games

Speaking of defense, what was the draft profile on Huerter's defense? He is already unexpectedly so good at it, would be interesting to see how he was profiled.
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Post#612 » by LunchBox21 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:35 am

Reddish rarely dribbles because he struggles to do so without turning the ball over.
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Post#613 » by Jamaaliver » Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:00 am

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Post#614 » by atlantabbq99 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:32 am

I'm not a fan of Rui Hachimura. You can't deny his stats, but when you look at his film, he game just doesn't look good and i'm not sure if it will translate well into the NBA. His game reminds me of LaPhonso Ellis, Rodney Rogers, or even Millsap. He just kind of bullys his way on the court and takes a lot of tough shots. His shooting mechanics looks good though.

When I watch him, I think he will become an okay NBA player, but I just have a feeling he has a really low ceiling and more of a #4 on a good team, like Harrison Barnes.
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Post#615 » by kg01 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:15 pm

atlantabbq99 wrote:I'm not a fan of Rui Hachimura. You can't deny his stats, but when you look at his film, he game just doesn't look good and i'm not sure if it will translate well into the NBA. His game reminds me of LaPhonso Ellis, Rodney Rogers, or even Millsap. He just kind of bullys his way on the court and takes a lot of tough shots. His shooting mechanics looks good though.

When I watch him, I think he will become an okay NBA player, but I just have a feeling he has a really low ceiling and more of a #4 on a good team, like Harrison Barnes.


I actually hear you on that.

I wonder though if that's a reflection of him being in a 'college' system. The skills appear to be there. Perhaps in a more open system he'll flourish. We've seen that type of thing before.
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Post#616 » by atlantabbq99 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:17 pm

jayu70 wrote:
CP War Hawks wrote:If the Hawks stick with the no. 5 selection, I'd go with Culver or Hachumira. I think Culver's comp for a current player is Butler. With Rui, it's not a comp perse but I see glimpses of Leonard. It's just the way he gets to his spot and generally operates. A power 3 of sorts.


How's the Hatchimal's defense.


Hachumira's D is good but he is not Kawhi.

Hachumira's D is good in the sense that he is not afraid to play ugly basketball and get physical with guys, but his lateral quickness and vertical are nothing special (not like Kawhi). If he becomes an elite defender, it will be due to his mental game and toughness like Artest or Draymond.

Defensively I think his ceiling is high, which is a solid NBA defender that won't be seen as a liability.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#617 » by kg01 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:00 pm

I'm starting to keep an eye on this kid Morant. I'm TeamTrae all day but with the way this kid's been playing ....

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Hey, Lillard and Chuk are a good guard duo despite the size issue.
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Post#618 » by Spud2nique » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:42 pm

kg01 wrote:I'm starting to keep an eye on this kid Morant. I'm TeamTrae all day but with the way this kid's been playing ....

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Hey, Lillard and Chuk are a good guard duo despite the size issue.


:lol: hands off my chuck.
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Post#619 » by Spud2nique » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:48 pm

kg01 wrote:I'm starting to keep an eye on this kid Morant. I'm TeamTrae all day but with the way this kid's been playing ....

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Hey, Lillard and Chuk are a good guard duo despite the size issue.


I’m saving you here from Sexton II..Morant ain’t the one. Put the drink down kg.
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Post#620 » by atlantabbq99 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:01 pm

kg01 wrote:I'm starting to keep an eye on this kid Morant. I'm TeamTrae all day but with the way this kid's been playing ....

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Hey, Lillard and Chuk are a good guard duo despite the size issue.


I'm a fan of Morant. I really like his game, but drafting him might be a mistake, like drafting Rubio and Flynn on the same team.

But Morant would have been the perfect backcourt teammate to Doncic :banghead:

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