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Appropriately early 2020 NBA Draft Thread

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What would you like to see the Hawks do with the #6 pick?

Trade the Pick for a vet
5
17%
Trade into the top 3
8
27%
Trade for later/future picks
4
13%
Draft Best Player Available
4
13%
Draft TYRESE HALIBURTON
3
10%
Draft ONYEKA OKONGWU
3
10%
Draft ISAAC OKORO
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No votes
Draft KILLIAN HAYES
3
10%
 
Total votes: 30

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Post#601 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:14 am

Radioblacktive1 wrote:It’s pretty settled that whoever we draft is likely coming off the bench right?


Probably...but the reality is that the SG and SF starting positions are still up for grabs this upcoming season. Especially with how well Reddish played off the bench towards the end of the year.
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Post#602 » by Radioblacktive1 » Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:10 am

For what it’s worth I’m cool with anybody we pick up, to be honest. Only ones I’d rather stay away from are Wiseman and Toppin. Toppin...I don’t know, I’m just not big on him and I think it’s because he’s probably never gonna be good defensively but something else bothers me about him that I can’t put my finger on.
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Brad Rowland wrote:6. Atlanta Hawks – Isaac Okoro (G/F, Auburn)

Okoro is a local Atlanta product and he does a lot of things well. The Hawks spent two lottery picks on a pair of two-way forwards in 2019 and, in Okoro, they’d be following that model again to some degree. He is a bulky, physically gifted standout on the defensive end, with top-shelf athleticism and power leading to many saying Okoro is the best one-on-one defensive prospect in the class. Offensively, he has a defined weaknesses in perimeter shooting but, from there, Okoro brings more on-ball appeal than one might think, showcasing intriguing play-making skills and a high-level knowledge of the game.
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Post#606 » by Jamaaliver » Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:32 pm

A prospect for the 2nd round...maybe late first round.

Desmond Bane | SG | TCU | No. 44

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Potential role: 3-and-D guard

Why he fits: Bane brings spot shooting, range, court vision and defensive toughness with all the makings of a plug-and-play contributor for a playoff team. At 6-6, 215 pounds with a 6-4 wingspan, Bane compares to Brooklyn's Joe Harris physically. He's not as dynamic a shooter as Harris while sprinting off screens, but hitting 43% from 3-point land on 574 career attempts speaks for itself.

Bane moves the ball intelligently out of quick actions and is comfortable facilitating from the pick-and-roll once he gets downhill to his right. Bane is one of only three players in our top 100 who averaged at least 2.5 made 3s and 3.5 assists per game, along with Pritchard and Sam Merrill.

As a defender, Bane is smart, active off the ball, a good positional rebounder and strong enough to body up more physical guards and wings.

On top of his improvement rate, production and experience from starting 117 of 145 games at TCU, Bane is regularly praised for his character and approach to the game.

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Drawbacks: Bane isn't the most fluid or explosive athlete and lacks a degree of flexibility both with the ball on offense and when defending the perimeter. He struggles to finish around the rim in traffic, evidenced by his 45% 2-point percentage and extremely low free throw rate. Although he has a soft touch on floaters, Bane lacks deception when faced with size and length in the paint. -- Schmitz

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Post#607 » by Spud2nique » Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:41 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:A prospect for the 2nd round...maybe late first round.

Desmond Bane | SG | TCU | No. 44

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Potential role: 3-and-D guard

Why he fits: Bane brings spot shooting, range, court vision and defensive toughness with all the makings of a plug-and-play contributor for a playoff team. At 6-6, 215 pounds with a 6-4 wingspan, Bane compares to Brooklyn's Joe Harris physically. He's not as dynamic a shooter as Harris while sprinting off screens, but hitting 43% from 3-point land on 574 career attempts speaks for itself.

Bane moves the ball intelligently out of quick actions and is comfortable facilitating from the pick-and-roll once he gets downhill to his right. Bane is one of only three players in our top 100 who averaged at least 2.5 made 3s and 3.5 assists per game, along with Pritchard and Sam Merrill.

As a defender, Bane is smart, active off the ball, a good positional rebounder and strong enough to body up more physical guards and wings.

On top of his improvement rate, production and experience from starting 117 of 145 games at TCU, Bane is regularly praised for his character and approach to the game.

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Drawbacks: Bane isn't the most fluid or explosive athlete and lacks a degree of flexibility both with the ball on offense and when defending the perimeter. He struggles to finish around the rim in traffic, evidenced by his 45% 2-point percentage and extremely low free throw rate. Although he has a soft touch on floaters, Bane lacks deception when faced with size and length in the paint. -- Schmitz

Pelton projections: 0.8 WARP (30th)
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I like this kid a lot. NBA body and game with a nice touch. I’m torn between him and Elijah Hughes. I think I’d go Hughes over Bane but happy with either.
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Post#608 » by Jamaaliver » Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:08 pm

This site seems focused on us adding a secondary ballhandler through the draft. But LaMelo's poor shooting and porous defense really make it difficult to consider him...even at the top of the draft.

Interesting that they don't recommend K Hayes at all.

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3 top targets: LaMelo Ball, Deni Avdija, Tyrese Haliburton

The Atlanta Hawks appear to be in good hands as long as Trae Young is at the center of their rebuild. However, they could take advantage of a drop from LaMelo Ball, or even taking a bit of a risk on a prospect such as Tyrese Haliburton. Even though he’s not considered a big-name, Haliburton is a prospect that could jump up the draft boards in the next few months.
After a sensational sophomore season, Haliburton has the length and skill set to be an interesting player to stick next to Young. He’s coming off a season in which he averaged 15 points, seven assists, and six rebounds per game on 50 percent shooting from the field and 42 percent shooting from 3-point range.

Avdija is another player that could emerge as an option for the Hawks in the top 5. Though, he could be viewed as a bit of a risk.
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Post#609 » by Spud2nique » Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:27 am

Jamaaliver wrote:This site seems focused on us adding a secondary ballhandler through the draft. But LaMelo's poor shooting and porous defense really make it difficult to consider him...even at the top of the draft.

Interesting that they don't recommend K Hayes at all.

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3 top targets: LaMelo Ball, Deni Avdija, Tyrese Haliburton

The Atlanta Hawks appear to be in good hands as long as Trae Young is at the center of their rebuild. However, they could take advantage of a drop from LaMelo Ball, or even taking a bit of a risk on a prospect such as Tyrese Haliburton. Even though he’s not considered a big-name, Haliburton is a prospect that could jump up the draft boards in the next few months.
After a sensational sophomore season, Haliburton has the length and skill set to be an interesting player to stick next to Young. He’s coming off a season in which he averaged 15 points, seven assists, and six rebounds per game on 50 percent shooting from the field and 42 percent shooting from 3-point range.

Avdija is another player that could emerge as an option for the Hawks in the top 5. Though, he could be viewed as a bit of a risk.
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You can please some of the people all the time and all the people some of the time but you can’t please all Hawks fans all the time...

Haliburton would be the closest thing though ..
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Post#610 » by jayu70 » Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:27 pm

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Post#612 » by Spud2nique » Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:11 pm

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Drooling. Check out his pass at 2:10. Oooohhhhh weeeee, also who else is picturing him running in transition with Trae. Nightmare for defenders.

29 days before we find out if we have a shot at drafting him. (Without trading up of course)
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Post#613 » by kg01 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:28 pm

*yawn*

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Post#614 » by Spud2nique » Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:48 pm

kg01 wrote:*yawn*

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Seriously you and Jay need to chill with that yawn :roll: it’s makin me...think a lot!
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Re: Appropriately early 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#615 » by CP War Hawks » Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:29 pm

Anyone that downplays Antman at this point in the proceedings I can't really take seriously considering the lack of star power in this draft. If we're talking more promising drafts like 21 and 22 then I can understand.

Speaking of 2nd round guys, it'll very slim pickings come time to pick in the 50s. This Grant Riller dude has some semblance of a cross between Kyrie and Deron. Hate that they traded that 2nd for Fernando considering we now have a rich man's version of him.

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Post#616 » by kg01 » Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:33 pm

CP War Hawks wrote:Anyone that downplays Antman at this point in the proceedings I can't really take seriously considering the lack of star power in this draft.


Hey, Dion Waiters has been in the league for a lot of years so I guess I can't blame you for still believing in Edwards.

But you can still take me seriously.... well, about 40% of the time anyway.
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Teams Will Look to Trade Down

Depending on the lottery results, there's an expectation that teams with the top few picks will be interested in trading down. While most acknowledge that LaMelo Ball, Anthony Edwards and James Wiseman are the draft's potential stars, teams don't sound confident in those players' chances of actually reaching their star potential (relative to previous drafts' projected top picks). Plus, Ball, Edwards and Wiseman aren't easy fits for everyone.

Meanwhile, there is a group of perceived lower-upside prospects—Tyrese Haliburton, Isaac Okoro, Deni Avdija, Devin Vassell—who seem to fit with or plug a hole for everyone. And teams view them as high-floor, low-maintenance contributors with limited bust potential. 

Certain teams may feel better about getting Avdija at No. 5 or Haliburton at No. 6—while acquiring an additional asset to move down—than drafting Edwards at No. 1 or 2. 

The question is whether there will enough teams willing to trade an asset to move up. The belief is that if teams are looking to move up, it will be a franchise trying to land Ball. The New York Knicks are assumed to be interested in him. The Chicago Bulls and Orlando Magic would also make sense as teams with needs for a passer and assets to trade.

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Post#618 » by tbhawksfan1 » Sat Jul 25, 2020 6:37 pm

It looks like a BPA draft no matter where the Hawks pick. It's very likely the last high lottery pick for the team and we are full of young talent. A watered down 2 for 1 probably doesn't make sense. I think that TS will go BPA no matter where we drat just to optimize talent and not bring in added youth.

L. Ball and Knicks could provide an interesting opportunity though
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Post#619 » by Jamaaliver » Sun Jul 26, 2020 2:46 am

With all the hype and attention Bol Bol has drawn of late, you guys familiar with this guy at all?

He seems to have some of the same strengths (and weaknesses).

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Post#620 » by HMFFL » Sun Jul 26, 2020 4:34 am

I just randomly went on Ebay to see if Lamelo Ball had signed anything yet to see how people view him. Card companies already have him on cards and he's $$$$$$$.

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